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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8342845 times)

Offline T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10965 on: October 21, 2015, 02:59:32 PM »
The inductance and resistance forms a filter as mentioned, it just looks to me that the combination of the various coils and capacitors is forming a bandpass filter (or a notch filter) and all filters have a resonant point to them as well, the resistance in the circuit is one of the limiting factors of the "Q" of the filter.

In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10965 on: October 21, 2015, 02:59:32 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10966 on: October 21, 2015, 03:26:37 PM »
I agree that there is more involved, just that this is one of the factors to be considered. The inductance and resistance forms a filter as mentioned, it just looks to me that the combination of the various coils and capacitors is forming a bandpass filter (or a notch filter) and all filters have a resonant point to them as well, the resistance in the circuit is one of the limiting factors of the "Q" of the filter.

I do think the coils should be measured for their inductance and the math done to see what the actual frequency response is for the sudo filters being created here. I feel this is just another item to be looked at and considered in the design and performance of the device. We all do want to understand how this works and how to effectively tune it right?

I'm not sure that we do know with any real confidence, how this device is supposed to work, which makes it all the more difficult to know exactly how the various components should interact with each other. Given that Ruslan's first claimed self-runner did not incorporate this more complex PLL and pulsed Kacher circuitry, so in some respects, Nick's efforts to keep things simple may be a more valid approach to discover by chance adjustment of the many variables, if there is any hint that loop back running is possible.

I'm not particularly struck on the standing wave theory of operation, given that Kapanadze's claimed self-running box and aquarium devices are crudely constructed and show no sign of circuit complexity or the need for fine tuning. It also intrigues me why the grenade coil concept was adopted by Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan amongst others. Did Akula, Ruslan and others just copy and develop the Kapanadze grenade because they thought the shape was important, or does the design go further back and all these people have copied it from an earlier source?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10967 on: October 21, 2015, 03:32:10 PM »
In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

Thanks T1000. I hadn't realized that! At Allegan's circuit, the gate of kacher's mosfet, takes driving pulses through a switch. What this switch does please?

Itsu, is your circuit the Allega's one?
Yes you are probably right. First connect everything up and then check again. Other alternative as T1000 said, is to sense the high magnetic moment inside the yoke core, than to sense current inside inductor's line. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10967 on: October 21, 2015, 03:32:10 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10968 on: October 21, 2015, 03:37:24 PM »
In the case of yoke with series resonance the load changes mutual inductance of the yoke due core saturation effects and effectively the resonant frequency shifts up with more load added to the output. The push-pull circuit should cope and produce new frequency to keep up with series resonance conditions and this is where PLL or other feed-back circuit helps.

If this is the case, how is it that Ruslan does not suffer from the same saturation effects, (if indeed it is a real problem that would affect the ability to self-run) given that he has the same open cored yoke design? The only thing I can see that could be significantly different is the core material. If saturation is the problem, then surely a closed core-coil design would be preferable, over the open and loosely coupled winding design of the yoke.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10969 on: October 21, 2015, 03:40:49 PM »
most of these schemes shows such entry but to get rid of the high voltage is close to ground if you want someone other schemes is different?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10970 on: October 21, 2015, 03:53:22 PM »
    Hoppy:
   Even the simple approach is still a very complicated mix to contend with, as I'm seeing.
   I actually had slightly better results, before I started this last round of tuning rewinding, and adjusting the circuits.  Now my earth ground line does nothing, nor do I notice the slightest improvement in the bulbs output and brightness. Which is indicating that what I did was not right.  So, "by chance" seam to be the better approach so far, as the SG or the scope have not helped to find the way, as yet.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10971 on: October 21, 2015, 03:59:40 PM »
    Hoppy:
   Even the simple approach is still a very complicated mix to contend with, as I'm seeing.
   I actually had slightly better results, before I started this last round of tuning rewinding, and adjusting the circuits.  Now my earth ground line does nothing, nor do I notice the slightest improvement in the bulbs output and brightness. Which is indicating that what I did was not right.  So, "by chance" seam to be the better approach so far, as the SG or the scope have not helped to find the way, as yet.

Maybe working on intuition, with a good dose of luck will prove to be the quickest route to success. After all Kapanadze probably trod this route.  :-\

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10972 on: October 21, 2015, 04:00:54 PM »
most of these schemes shows such entry but to get rid of the high voltage is close to ground if you want someone other schemes is different?

Sorry Tomtech but that sentence makes no sense.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10973 on: October 21, 2015, 04:35:33 PM »
Sorry Tomtech but that sentence makes no sense.
I think the location of this small transformer on the wire that is the ground and three turnovers  which is grounded wire has a lower current I'd try to check on both ends of the inductor where he will be better if the high voltage is not pierced PLL. 2.6KV Vpp is definitely very high.

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« Reply #10973 on: October 21, 2015, 04:35:33 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10974 on: October 21, 2015, 07:21:08 PM »
I ordered and received one of these modules:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TL494-KA7500-DC-9V-25V-Driver-Board-DC-DC-Converter-Inverter-Boost-Module-PWM-/181449170972?hash=item2a3f36a01c:g:zKQAAOSwu4BVpJjQ
as discussed earlier here:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg461714/#msg461714

It runs at 32Khz, but after removing R6 (18K) and installing a 100K potmeter instead, it now has a range of 6KHz to 80KHz.
The installed potmeter on this board has no influence on either the frequency nor the duty cycle / pulse width.

I connected this module to my MOSFET drivers (ucc37322) driving the MOSFETs (IRFP260) at a frequency of 15.3Khz which is the resonance frequency of my
inductor coil and it was able to light up a 100W bulb on the grenade coil.

The video shows the tuning of this resonance which is very sharp (± 300KHz).

Perhaps a usefull module.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Xr-gmFjFY&feature=youtu.be

Attached the via Email received diagram of this module (the component id's are not the same as on the board)


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10975 on: October 21, 2015, 07:39:30 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtRNRJCbd2A
haa-haa it was everything good for you!!!:D:D:D:
I have no idea Why are there only two diode no resistor



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10976 on: October 21, 2015, 07:41:10 PM »
most of these schemes shows such entry but to get rid of the high voltage is close to ground if you want someone other schemes is different?

In this photo, LM393 can you get this device to work like this? i found if you link pin 2 or 3 to pin 4 earth or 0 volts it does not want to know, i had to put some resistance in first before it stopped playing up.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10977 on: October 21, 2015, 08:01:21 PM »
Perhaps a usefull module.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Xr-gmFjFY&feature=youtu.be

Good find for the compact module. With some current sense  adjustments instead of resistor pot it could auto lock into resonance and prove to be useful piece of cheap electronics.. :)

Cheers!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10978 on: October 21, 2015, 08:06:47 PM »
See these tricks one knows what's going on

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