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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11804849 times)

Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10905 on: October 19, 2015, 05:26:01 PM »
Quote from: itsu on October 18, 2015, 09:00:34 PM

Tomtech29,


ok, i added some extra bulbs, in steps of 100W, so first the 40W,  then 140W, then 240W etc.

The resonance frequency goes up in steps of about 1KHz but the input current drops significally after adding the first 100W bulb.

Hope this is what you wanted to know.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKMz4omOTPI&feature=youtu.be


Regards Itsu

Itsu,

Was this demonstration with or without the 28-wire yoke winding connected? I assume it was as Tomtech requested, just with the induction coil driven.

Regards
Hoppy
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John.K1

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10906 on: October 19, 2015, 06:17:23 PM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on October 19, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
Yeah the tube has mercury in it for starters it's a load loop and wire is so thin, is he tuning it to a long wave station ;) but seriously he needs some capacitance on the top like a ball covered in foil or old dog food tin,and the tube, is loading effect on the Tesla coil at a guess.

try re winding it with thicker wire.

Hi Alien. Yep , that Kacher  was made for different coil, the coil made of thicker wire ( the wire from data cables, Insulated 0.5mm or so). The coil was tuned to have 2.78 MHz  ( Around 150 turns of wire or so) , but Kacher didn't work on that one- even with 30V supply. I couldn't get resonance. So I tested it on this older longer coil you see in the movie. Just needed to prove Kacher works. Now the question is how to get Kacher to work on less turnes. I need that 2.78 MHz.
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Tomtech29

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10907 on: October 19, 2015, 06:39:45 PM »
Quote from: NickZ on October 19, 2015, 03:27:24 PM
  Tomtech:
  I would be more concerned about why your bulbs are barely lit, as you should be getting higher lumin levels, at 5-6 amps.
My bulbs will brighten up when going from one bulb to three bulbs, but will start to dim when going over three of four 100w bulbs. I've partially lit as many as 650w worth of bulbs, (or more), but not because of 650w worth of output power.
 
   Tuning should be done to find the best open coil resonant point for the grenade, first, and then tune to the Kacher system to operate at that point, but, also try to see if there is also a better resonant point, once your 3 bulbs are connected. There may be nothing magical about the 15Khz induction coil crt, or the 1.5Mhz.,  for the Kacher, 1:100 ratios, or the other rations.
    Your system may operate a different frequency, once the bulbs (3 100w bulbs) are connected up as a load. So we need to find the best operating frequency, for all three circuits, Kacher grenade, inductor, and then try to further sync them all together.
Easier said than done...
 As it not just a matter of turning some knobs, as some guys may think.
 
  To compare notes: My grenade's best resonant point (OPEN coil) was at 1.85Mhz.  But, my best running lumin levels are between 1.42Mzh, to 1.53Mhz, or so.
  Your LED bulb test method ran best on my grenade's output coil at 1.53Mhz.  Ferrite placed in the Kacher can further adjust the frequency.
 
   Keep the same 3 bulb load, as each additional bulb can change the brightness of the all bulbs, even if the frequency is locked.
But, there is also a good reason that Akula/Ruslan are ONLY using the bigger 500w to 1000w bulbs on the Akula/Ruslan systems.
I have the impression that you have not seen this film, see what happens when Ruslan joined together at both ends of the coil grenade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bE_9cFX5bI
if he could fire 650 Watt output of the grenade that would be visible under short circuit arc (stronger sparks)
I am faithless show me such a result as you say!
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10908 on: October 19, 2015, 07:55:11 PM »
Quote from: T-1000 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
There are some questions for your case:
Why the amplitude from LC series resonance goes to very low level as soon as you load up 140W?
Is it trying to draw more amps from PS then have not enough from 120W and then is dropping oscillation?
Is the yoke core over satturated?
-I do not know what is the limit load for Ruslan but we see that the 160 Watt amplitude decreases
  like guessing and see what remains to be seen under a magnifying glass (experience bath to check Pusch-pull performance of the starting 28 at these bulbs of 100 watts and so on.)
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AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10909 on: October 19, 2015, 08:28:16 PM »
Quote from: John.K1 on October 19, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
Hi Alien. Yep , that Kacher  was made for different coil, the coil made of thicker wire ( the wire from data cables, Insulated 0.5mm or so). The coil was tuned to have 2.78 MHz  ( Around 150 turns of wire or so) , but Kacher didn't work on that one- even with 30V supply. I couldn't get resonance. So I tested it on this older longer coil you see in the movie. Just needed to prove Kacher works. Now the question is how to get Kacher to work on less turnes. I need that 2.78 MHz.

If you look at old Ruslan vids the coil is under yellow tape, if it is 1/4 wave of granade coil that would make it 8 mhz with short coil to match, 8mhz would be around that number of turns, or 6mhz for the other version, you need a scope to see the wave forms.

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John.K1

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10910 on: October 19, 2015, 09:03:08 PM »
Hi Alien- yep I know all Ruslan's movies quite well.

In my Ruslan's replication my Tesla coil and Kacher works at 1.33 MHz - exactly as I wanted to match ground- No problem there.

But here in this other version stand alone kacher and short coil I have some problem.  I made a short coil of thicker wire and 1.5 primary turns right on the secondary. Then I gave it an impulse and I measured ringing frequency on the scope. By unwinding the wire I got ringing as I needed at 2.75MHz of its natural frequency (or its harmonic) and I ended with around 130-150 turns. When I connected the Kacher to that coil, I got absolutely nothing. Not a pulse. But Kacher evidently works fine with more turns as I showed. Why the hack it doesn't work with short coil?? With 30V IN I still should have couple KV.  On the transistor I measured everything just in the range of mV. I use Transistor 2STC5200. The electronics is not my strong side so it is as a pain in an ars for me :D Time for investigation :) BTW- The primary is in opposite direction to secondary and I have tried to swap both ends :)

Thanks. Regards.




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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10911 on: October 19, 2015, 09:33:55 PM »
Quote from: T-1000 on October 19, 2015, 02:31:09 PM
There are some questions for your case:
Why the amplitude from LC series resonance goes to very low level as soon as you load up 140W?
Is it trying to draw more amps from PS then have not enough from 120W and then is dropping oscillation?
Is the yoke core over satturated?

T-1000,

i have no idea, the 24V PS can handle 10A, so is not near its max with 140W.
We are still in resonance, only the amplitude get much lower, i guess it has something to do with the impedance the bulbs are loading the grenade coil with.
without any bulbs, the current drawn is 7A, with a 40W bulb 5.7A, with a 100W bulb 3A, with 140W bulbs 0.6A etc.

Could it be that the Q of the series LC (inductor coil / wima caps) is negatively influenced by the loading (more bulbs, less resistance, more load) of the grenade coil?

Regards Itsu
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10912 on: October 19, 2015, 09:36:35 PM »
Quote from: Hoppy on October 19, 2015, 05:26:01 PM
Itsu,

Was this demonstration with or without the 28-wire yoke winding connected? I assume it was as Tomtech requested, just with the induction coil driven.

Regards
Hoppy

Hoppy,  yes, it was without the 28-wire yoke winding connected, so the grenade was ONLY connected/loaded to/with the bulbs.

Itsu
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10913 on: October 19, 2015, 10:36:52 PM »
Quote from: itsu on October 19, 2015, 09:36:35 PM
Hoppy,  yes, it was without the 28-wire yoke winding connected, so the grenade was ONLY connected/loaded to/with the bulbs.

Itsu

Thanks Itsu. I asked because there seemed to be some confusion as I think Nick thought the 28-wire yoke winding was connected, so lamps should have been a lot brighter.

I think that a poor coupling between grenade and inductor coils is the reason for the drop-off of power to your lamps as they were progressively added. As I see it, the inductor is receiving a heavy current from the yoke but cannot transfer the energy efficiently into the grenade and lamp load, thus it gets hot. This is not a fault of your build, rather just the way the coils are constructed and it makes me wonder if the inductor is supposed to heat-up??

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Hoppy
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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10914 on: October 19, 2015, 10:49:27 PM »

Hoppy,

but the inductor coil gets hotter faster with less load, so when no bulbs attached to the grenade, the 24V input draws 7A and the inductor coil gets hot very fast.
The more load i add (bulbs), the lower the input current and the slower the inductor gets hot.
With >140W bulbs, the inductor does not get warm.

Itsu
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10915 on: October 19, 2015, 10:56:54 PM »
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Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10916 on: October 19, 2015, 10:59:13 PM »
Quote from: itsu on October 19, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
Hoppy,

but the inductor coil gets hotter faster with less load, so when no bulbs attached to the grenade, the 24V input draws 7A and the inductor coil gets hot very fast.
The more load i add (bulbs), the lower the input current and the slower the inductor gets hot.
With >140W bulbs, the inductor does not get warm.

Itsu

That would make sense to me if the load and source impedances are progressively matching as the load resistance reduces. The reflection back to the yoke primary would correspondingly decrease, thus reducing the supply current. It could be a combination of the two.

Hoppy
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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10917 on: October 19, 2015, 11:05:49 PM »

Right,  i agree.

Itsu
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John.K1

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10918 on: October 19, 2015, 11:53:25 PM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on October 19, 2015, 10:56:54 PM
A self runner!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf-EmnlTHKU


:D  Have you made one yet?? :D    On other hand I made a MicroTPU an year ago. It was fast blinking  a neon bulb for around 4 minutes too :D I just touched the 12V battery for around 1s.   The funny thing is that it did hold quite stable frequency for long time and than suddenly it started to drop down. 
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T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10919 on: October 20, 2015, 12:05:24 AM »
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