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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8647443 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10410 on: September 23, 2015, 02:42:47 PM »
 
   Personally I don't think that the Kacher circuit should resonate with the 168 turns grenade output coil, as the two are running at totally different frequencies. The 168 coil is not running in the Mhz range, like the Kacher is, nor do I think that it should be, either.


My understanding is that the Tesla bifilar should resonate at the same frequency as the grenade coil (not the Kacher secondary) by correct choice of the series cap. However, I'm not sure what stages the tuning should be done and what coils should be connected / loaded at each stage.  Like you, I am doubtful if anyone on this thread has the full knowledge to write out a clear instruction.

I'm prepared to have another go at building, assuming a comprehensive tuning instruction can be supplied. I think I understand the concept of operation in terms of standing waves but lack the level of theoretical knowledge and practical RF build experience to work out how to tune this contraption. I don't want to waste my time on guesswork.

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« Reply #10411 on: September 23, 2015, 03:03:24 PM »
   I don't think that that is the way to go, either. 
   I'll show at what frequency the 3 turns coil circuit is running at, now, when using the 0.47 1600v WIMA cap.
   I'll also place a 0.1uf WIMA cap on the 168 turn coil circuit, and then I'll take some scope shots of both circuits, and we can take it from there.

   Hoppy:  Good to hear that you'll get the dust and cobwebs off of the old circuits and coils, and get them fired up again.
That's Great.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10412 on: September 23, 2015, 03:20:50 PM »
 
   Hoppy:  Good to hear that you'll get the dust and cobwebs off of the old circuits and coils, and get them fired up again.
That's Great.
 

If we get good comprehensive tuning instructions then I will look at a complete re-build.

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Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10413 on: September 23, 2015, 04:44:19 PM »
   I wouldn't count on a complete instructional tuning video happening, at least not from one of us. As no one has been able to
obtain any increase in output, over the input source used. To show how it's supposed to work.
 But, it would be good to compare notes between the guys that have built up their versions of this device.

  We already have been given the coil winding directions and sizes of the different coils, including the Kacher secondary.  We just may not know how to tune the three different circuits to work together for any "extra energy" to be observed at the bulbs.

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« Reply #10414 on: September 23, 2015, 05:00:37 PM »
  Looks like no one is too sure of what to do exactly, or just how to go about it.
  But, it's not lack of knowledge, as it is a lack of proper instruction.
 
   Personally I don't think that the Kacher circuit should resonate at the same frequency as the 168 turns grenade output coil, as the two are running at totally different frequencies. The 168 coil does not run in the Mhz range, like the Kacher does, nor do I think that it should be, either.

  I'll do some more testing of the frequencies of both of the grenade coils, and compare them to the Kacher frequency to see how it looks.
  I've got my new set of scope probes, and the new WIMA tuning caps, now.  So, I'll install the caps and re-tune things, and report back.

Nick,

i scanned my grenade coil back then for resonance (from 1Khz -> 10MHz) and it had a strong resonance point at 1.29Mhz, see the screenshot and this post here:

http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg421835/#msg421835

But back then we did not have any capacitor across the grenade (168 Turn) coil.

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Offline Hoppy

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« Reply #10415 on: September 23, 2015, 05:23:44 PM »
   I wouldn't count on a complete instructional tuning video happening, at least not from one of us. As no one has been able to
obtain any increase in output, over the input source used. To show how it's supposed to work.
 But, it would be good to compare notes between the guys that have built up their versions of this device.

  We already have been given the coil winding directions and sizes of the different coils, including the Kacher secondary.  We just may not know how to tune the three different circuits to work together for any "extra energy" to be observed at the bulbs.

I don't see a video as being needed, just detailed stage by stage tuning instruction. Yes, we do have good details on coil winding, phasing and lengths for suggested wavelengths. The first important milestone is to achieve correct synchronisation of the waveforms. Getting any extra energy out and proving it by measurement is the end of the journey

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« Reply #10416 on: September 24, 2015, 01:46:09 PM »
   Or, more like the real beginning of our journey.
 
   I've got my WIMA caps on and installed now, and I've got the new scope probes compensated for, and working well.
   
   I'll probably have to add some turns to my Kacher secondary to bring it down to about 2.4Mhz.
   Although there is a small increase from the output at the bulbs when the Kacher circuit is also turn on now, but not really anything like what Ruslan is showing in his videos, yet.  But, I don't really see any big improvement at output from using the expensive WIMA caps, so far.  However, I also need to tune the 3 turns coil/induction circuit now, also.  It needs to sync with what? The 2.4Mhz Kacher frequency at 100:1 (24khz), like my fets are running at. Or what?  I'm still confused...

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« Reply #10417 on: September 24, 2015, 06:39:27 PM »
However, I also need to tune the 3 turns coil/induction circuit now, also.  It needs to sync with what? The 2.4Mhz Kacher frequency at 100:1 (24khz), like my fets are running at. Or what?  I'm still confused...

Don't feel alone on this one.  I've been struggling for weeks trying to calculate where the 1:100 ratio comes from and still no joy.

There's a link a few messages back from T-1000 that touches on the standing waves and the long ground used on the Tesla Tower.  It specifically states:
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In other words, the Tower represents current buffer - isolated capacity inside of which reference power generator "brings" charge from the ground.

So if this accurate, I think it's a safe bet Tesla knew how to do this and was able to calculate the most practical means of his time to accomplish it.  This Ruslan device doesn't have a 30 meter tower, but somehow the same principal must still apply.  We just need to stumble upon the formulas we can apply to the Ruslan device and presto/change-o we should be able to see exactly what is needed.

With my setup I know exactly the coil lengths, the frequencies I think it should run at, plus I'm burst pulsing the Tesla coil.  There's also a good solid tuned sine wave on the induction heater coil.  Yet, I still haven't seen any magical power amplification, so I know I'm missing something and right now that seems to all focus around the mysterious 1:100 ratio.  Either that or I'm a full quarter-wave off, which would put the standing wave nodes in the wrong place.  The only good news I can share is that nothing blows up when I disconnect the ground wire, not a big surprise though since it doesn't appear to be doing anything.

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« Reply #10418 on: September 24, 2015, 06:49:35 PM »
   Or, more like the real beginning of our journey.
 
   I've got my WIMA caps on and installed now, and I've got the new scope probes compensated for, and working well.
   
   I'll probably have to add some turns to my Kacher secondary to bring it down to about 2.4Mhz.
   Although there is a small increase from the output at the bulbs when the Kacher circuit is also turn on now, but not really anything like what Ruslan is showing in his videos, yet.  But, I don't really see any big improvement at output from using the expensive WIMA caps, so far.  However, I also need to tune the 3 turns coil/induction circuit now, also.  It needs to sync with what? The 2.4Mhz Kacher frequency at 100:1 (24khz), like my fets are running at. Or what?  I'm still confused...


Nick basically,  yes.


if you have the kacher and grenade coil synced at a certain frequency, say 2.4Mhz, then you have to determine what relationship you want with
the inductor coil, 1:100, 1:60 or 1:50 or.....

If you go for 1:100, then you need to set the combo (wima caps, inductor coil and 3 turn coil) to 100th of 2.4Mhz is 24Khz resonance frequency
You do that be adding (wima) caps (parallel or in series) with the inductor coil.
You can monitor the wima cap and / or the inductor coil with your scope to see when it resonates (pure sine wave)

As you are driving this combo with your mazilla, you will have to tune the mazilla to be in resonance with the needed 24Khz of the combo.

I think it would be best to use a signal generator and determine / set the resonance frequency of the combo to the 24Khz, then set/tune your
mazilla to that same frequency.


Once the mazilla and the combo are in resonance (be aware, voltages could be high) on 100th of the kacher / grenade frequency you should see some light.

Thats how i understand it.

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« Reply #10419 on: September 24, 2015, 06:53:29 PM »
If you go for 1:100, then you need to set the combo (wima caps, inductor coil and 3 turn coil) to 100th of 2.4Mhz is 24Khz resonance frequency
You do that be adding (wima) caps (parallel or in series) with the inductor coil.
You can monitor the wima cap and / or the inductor coil with your scope to see when it resonates (pure sine wave)

Yes Nick, Itsu is correct here.  When you get this right, the screwdriver test of the induction heater coil will confirm it.  It will only take a second or two for the screwdriver to get quite hot depending upon how much power is going into your Mazzilli.  Use a fairly thin shaft screwdriver though, because a thick shaft one will alter the inductance of the coil quite a bit and knock your tuning out of whack.  With a current probe on one leg of the induction heater coil, you will be able to see what is happening on the scope.  The induction heater coil carries a lot of amperage so make sure your connections are solid.

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« Reply #10420 on: September 24, 2015, 07:23:48 PM »

Thats very right Dog-One, i measured up till 50A pp here:

http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422291/#msg422291

Thats why you need good Wima capacitors there, high voltage and high current.


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« Reply #10421 on: September 24, 2015, 08:48:00 PM »
  Just getting used to using both scope channels now. And getting a view able signal from both channels at once. Not that easy to do.
   I haven't taken any scope shots yet as I've been tuning the 3 turns coil, which was 6 turns, and I've removed 2 turns and it's now at about 4 turns of he thick 6mm insulated wire. My grenade induction coil is still at the 12, 12 turns, from when it was running on 12v, but as it's running on 24v now, I will probably have to rewind it also with more turns.
  The new red WIMA 0.47uf tuning capacitor on the 3 turns coil is 4 times the size of the previous yellow 275v 0.47uf capacitor that was on there before, (image below). So, I'm looking for those big angry sparks, when shorting it out. But, I'll need to remove some turns on my Kacher, first, as its frequency is now just a bit too high and the 1mm streamers are weak, at 2.5Mhz.
I'll probably need to go to down to about 2.4Mhz on my Kacher's secondary coil frequency, to see if there is any improvement there.

  Itsu: I'll take some scope shots of the grenade's 168 turns coils running frequency. Let me know where should I connect the probe leads to be able to take a reading? And is this reading is to be taken with and without the Kacher active?
  I'll watch your video now.

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« Reply #10422 on: September 24, 2015, 09:18:47 PM »
Hy guys,

I can see we try to replicate the effect without the knowledge of what we are  looking for. My question is-  where the energy comes from?  What brings that extra energy in to the system? Do you know?  DogOne- have you tried to synchronously pulse Tesla over the current transformer and have you got more Out than In? My opinion is there is no way to have OU justt running two frequencies or bursts of impulses over each other.  The output will be always the sum of energies minus Losses  = <1.
 
I have my work on this device stopped for while because I am looking for the missing piece.  I am looking everywhere.  And there is something what pay my attention now.  Two independent designers speaks about how Tesla works. They say correctly designed Tesla "sucks" the energy in to its top capacitor - opposite of radiation. The other guy shows the principle of Tesla example ,where the question is how to get a boat from one side of the lake to the other side - not any rope to pull it. Just have in the middle of the lake a drain and use only small energy to open that valve. The water will start flow and so does boat (or many boats)    Now The question - Is our  Grounded Tesla that drain? moving (or accelerating) charges or fields from surrounded environment through our collector?  Is the ground where it goes? Thicker the ground cable, more volume we can drain in given time?   Should we focus first on proper design of our Tesla?  Ho to calculate right/correct capacitor (its surface)? 

Just something to think about.

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« Reply #10423 on: September 24, 2015, 09:33:56 PM »
  Just getting used to using both scope channels now. And getting a view able signal from both channels at once. Not that easy to do.
   I haven't taken any scope shots yet as I've been tuning the 3 turns coil, which was 6 turns, and I've removed 2 turns and it's now at about 4 turns of he thick 6mm insulated wire. My grenade induction coil is still at the 12, 12 turns, from when it was running on 12v, but as it's running on 24v now, I will probably have to rewind it also with more turns.
  The new red WIMA 0.47uf tuning capacitor on the 3 turns coil is 4 times the size of the previous yellow 275v 0.47uf capacitor that was on there before, (image below). So, I'm looking for those big angry sparks, when shorting it out. But, I'll need to remove some turns on my Kacher, first, as its frequency is now just a bit too high and the 1mm streamers are weak, at 2.5Mhz.
I'll probably need to go to down to about 2.4Mhz on my Kacher's secondary coil frequency, to see if there is any improvement there.

  Itsu: I'll take some scope shots of the grenade's 168 turns coils running frequency. Let me know where should I connect the probe leads to be able to take a reading? And is this reading is to be taken with and without the Kacher active?
  I'll watch your video now.

Well, i have no idea which diagram you currently are following, but if the 168 turn grenade coil is grounded at some point, there you can put your ground lead
of your probe, the probe tip on any other point you want to probe.


But as this grenade coil is hooked up via the yoke secondary (28 turn, 38 turn ??) and being inductively coupled to the inductor coil, it will show
the same frequency as the inductor coil and thus the mazilla (24KHz?).

But as this is not its resonance frequency it will not be in resonance.

Its resonance frequency will be in the MHz range as i have shown before and the only way to find it is to hunt it down with a signal generator and your scope.

Up till now you have avoided to answer my hinted question if you have a signal generator, so i assume you have not which will make it difficult for you to
hunt down the resonance frequency of your grenade (with ground).

As i understand it, the purpose of the grenade coil is to mix the HV pulses it receives from the kacher on its resonance frequency (same frequencies in the MHz
range) with the 1:100, or 1:60 or 1:50 relationship (KHz) high current pulses from the inductor coil and pull from ground the extra energy.


Regards Itsu

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« Reply #10424 on: September 25, 2015, 04:42:01 AM »
    Itsu:
    I think I understand what you mean when you say that the Kacher and the 168 turns coil should be running at the SAME frequency. Since mine aren't doing so, I didn't know what you meant. 
   As my Kacher frequency 2.4Mhz (2.5mhz) is no where near the same frequency as where the 168 turns coil is running at.
   
    Let me see if I understand:
    So, first, we need to find the best resonant frequency or peak using a signal generator, of the grenade's output coil.
  Yes, I have access to a SG, but it's not mine, although I can borrow it, but it has no probes. Can any of my scope probes work on the signal generator? I have a probe with twin crock clips, also.
  Then second, the Kacher needs to run at the same frequency as the best grenade resonant frequency (but not the normal running frequency), of the 168 turns coil. So that the Kacher's HV signal will activate and trigger the grenade's output coil at it's favorite sweet spot. This is what had me confused. I get it now.
   And third, the Kacher to grenade/inductor coil frequency ratio needs to be something like 100:1, 50:1, or so. Which for my set up would be the Kacher running at 2.4Mhz, and induction/coil/3turns coil running at 24Khz, or so.  Correct?

  I'm trying to understand what has to happen, and how it has to be done. So, John won't get on my case about not knowing what to do before hand, even though it's true.

 

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