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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11717796 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10350 on: September 19, 2015, 06:39:17 AM »
  Fishing line sounds like a good idea, and can be used later to catch some lunch.
  We already know about what wire gauge and former size. We don't know what is the correct frequency matching to shoot for.
Neither did Akula when he first started.

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« Reply #10351 on: September 19, 2015, 11:29:25 AM »

Nick,  i agree, i count 8¼   0.1us sections, so 1 period or cycle is 0.825us.
Feeding this into the mentioned website, i get 1212KHz = 1.2MHz, see screenshot.
(http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/converters/freq)

Yes, you need to very tightly wind this wire, then apply some fixture (tape around it, varnish, etc.).

It was T1000 back then who mentioned/adviced to use spacing on the secondary kacher to increase the frequency.

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verpies

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« Reply #10352 on: September 19, 2015, 12:49:26 PM »
It was T1000 back then who mentioned/adviced to use spacing on the secondary kacher to increase the frequency.
And Yours Truly is advising you to avoid high-k dielectrics between turns of a winding, if you want to increase its self-resonance frequency (SRF).

High-k isolating materials increase the inter-turn capacitance and decrease the SRF.
Low-k isolators (such as air) decrease the inter-turn capacitance and increase the SRF.


For example: If you fill the inter-turn spaces with silicon rubber you risk decreasing the self-resonant frequency by 300%.

NickZ

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« Reply #10353 on: September 19, 2015, 03:26:41 PM »
  So, is there a problem with spraying varnish on the coil, as the mag wire already has some insulation coating on it.
  Is clear 2inch wide tape going to be a problem?  Teflon tape, maybe?

    Good to know that I'm up to 1.2mhz, from 700khz or so, originally.  And my device is responding differently, I just need to find the right frequency match to trigger this sync to the grenade coils.
    So, I guess that in order to be able to reach 1.5 to 1.7mhz, I should remove some more turns, and shorten the secondary coil again, to increase the frequency? Or not?
  I'll also tighten up the turns, so they will stay in place, while moving the antenna coil around above it. I left them somewhat loose so they would be easier to position. As they won't be able to be moved if they're too tight.

   Good advice, thanks Verpies.
  Thanks to Itsu, Gyula, TK, and all.  Nice team, I wish that you were all building this type of device, as well.

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10354 on: September 19, 2015, 05:21:55 PM »

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So, I guess that in order to be able to reach 1.5 to 1.7mhz, I should remove some more turns, and shorten the secondary coil again, to increase the frequency? Or not?



Yes, that should work.      Make sure the windings are evenly spaced.

Tesla coil builders use  polyurethane varnish (severall layers), so that should work ok i guess.

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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10355 on: September 19, 2015, 06:27:05 PM »
  If the 100:1 relation is really more like 50:1, then my 1.2mhz should within tuning range. But, it doesn't seam to be.
As I keep tuning I find new ways to improve the output, on the induction circuit as well.
 Sometimes I can light all three 100w bulbs, but sometimes I have to unscrew a bulb to get the other two going, then connect the third. But, at times I can also light all three at once. Different frequencies, cause these different results.
My new 250 watt 220v bulb is still waiting to be tested.  I'm waiting for the "effect to show".  I feel that I'm getting closer...

  Ruslan's later device Kacher secondary coil, also grew in width, and he also placed the primary coil on the far left, not in the middle, as compared to his previous video devices. That is where he may also have spaced his secondary coil's winding out, perhaps, as his secondary coil is about twice the width that it was previously.

  Ok, Itsu, Thanks.
  I'll remove some more turns, and tighten up the wire turns, until I can get some clear spray to fix them down with.
I don't want to seal the winding until I finish tuning the coil. As I may have to remove even more turns, later.

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« Reply #10356 on: September 20, 2015, 12:19:35 AM »
Itsu,

I think as Nick said the thing is to use lacquer not varnish ;)  I do know one should not use fiber glass tape as that does strange things at HF RF.

If i were you I would make or obtain a card sleeve, that could just move up and down the 50cm tube with the 'tuned copper wound length' could move up and down for tuning into the 'wave window' it self.

I did read the 4 turn CWW Katcher winding creates 'spin' or 'vortex'.

Alien

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« Reply #10357 on: September 20, 2015, 01:12:41 AM »
So, is there a problem with spraying varnish on the coil, as the mag wire already has some insulation coating on it.
IMO you should be fine as long as you do not get high-k dielectric between the turns.  Above or below the turns is fine.
Teflon carcass is better than polyethylene or polypropylene, too because Teflon has the lowest-k of all plastics.

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« Reply #10358 on: September 20, 2015, 02:41:46 AM »
Will post this  one more time.
Seems most have just bypassed my very last post except Hoppy's attention towards it

See how the effect works and how he lets the arc take place at the 1000W halogen.
Almost at the very end of the vid you'll see it.
Yet the entire vid is valuable how he puts different loads and see how it works.
but what is most important here to see is when
a Kacher / Tesla coil Radient RF Arcs at the lamp, that is RF Radiant HV arcing with amps in sync!
Very hot and visible to see how bright it gets when it arcs and flashes.
Same as Ruslan's latest 4kW demonstration when he tries to connect the other 2KW load to the system
you can see how it heavily arcs while trying to fit the wire to the connections.  Urfa sanli has the same arcing.
That is the result that has to be achieved! that is it. This Works! don't you all see it!?
Yet in the vid of Urfa there is no loopback/feedback part. it's just to show how he gets the effect.
Very important Vid here :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeJfRlvUU2A&feature

Trying to point out Valuable stuff here, not here to play games.

All the information is on the net how and yet alot of tempered information too.
But some ppl try to help many get the right ones for them to continue on with the work.
   Cheerz~

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10359 on: September 20, 2015, 04:35:00 AM »
  Itsu:
  I've re wound the Kacher secondary, this time a bit more carefully. I also removed some more wire turns, several meters of the mag wire. And further spread the wires apart. Easier said than done...  Agreed!
 
  I count 6.8 sections of the 0.1us sections, with the scope set as before, using the .5us/Div setting. So, putting 0.680 into the CalTool, I get my 1.47Mhz. So, I'm almost to my expected 1.5Mhz minimum frequency starting point. And, I'm still getting decent output, but smaller streams, only about 2mm at the antenna.  No noticeable reaction yet at the bulbs, when connecting the Kacher to induction circuit, to be noticed still, even when using a 10 or 20w bulb.
 
  T-1000 is right in that I'll have to also tune the yoke 3 turns coil circuit to the Kacher circuit. As well as the 3 turns to the grenade output coil, all with an 37.5m earth ground connected. But, I'll need my WIMA caps that are coming in a couple more days, for that round of tuning.
The fun is just beginning... 

   Geo: I'll review that video again.  And get back to you.  How's your project coming???
 
  Here's some shots:


 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10360 on: September 20, 2015, 05:57:07 AM »
Will post this  one more time.
Seems most have just bypassed my very last post except Hoppy's attention towards it

See how the effect works and how he lets the arc take place at the 1000W halogen.
Almost at the very end of the vid you'll see it.
Yet the entire vid is valuable how he puts different loads and see how it works.
but what is most important here to see is when
a Kacher / Tesla coil Radient RF Arcs at the lamp, that is RF Radiant HV arcing with amps in sync!
Very hot and visible to see how bright it gets when it arcs and flashes.
Same as Ruslan's latest 4kW demonstration when he tries to connect the other 2KW load to the system
you can see how it heavily arcs while trying to fit the wire to the connections.  Urfa sanli has the same arcing.
That is the result that has to be achieved! that is it. This Works! don't you all see it!?
Yet in the vid of Urfa there is no loopback/feedback part. it's just to show how he gets the effect.
Very important Vid here :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeJfRlvUU2A&feature

Trying to point out Valuable stuff here, not here to play games.

All the information is on the net how and yet alot of tempered information too.
But some ppl try to help many get the right ones for them to continue on with the work.
   Cheerz~

hi Geofusion,

The video of URFA may look funny like 1Amps 220volts (Around 220watt  of power)to power 500watt halogen at around 130watt.... brightness.
The video raise some questions since he is using UPS(Battery in built) to the power  220volts for the 220volts to 24volts converter.

Unless URFA want to clarify with us why is he is using a UPS -Backup power supply.

-Latest update at estimate 220watt power input there is nothing special about URFA video. ;D ;D ;D

I have done some crazy things like running a computer system for 1hour using car battery to UPS. :D
Although i have never experienced a blackout for the last 15years in my country since year 2000.
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The Akula kapanadze replication is placed on hold for the time being until i got some ideas.I am working on some other projects.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10361 on: September 20, 2015, 07:26:30 AM »
(snip)
 
  I count 6.8 sections of the 0.1us sections, with the scope set as before, using the .5us/Div setting. So, putting 0.680 into the CalTool, I get my 1.47Mhz. So, I'm almost to my expected 1.5Mhz minimum frequency starting point. And, I'm still getting decent output, but smaller streams, only about 2mm at the antenna.  No noticeable reaction yet at the bulbs, when connecting the Kacher to induction circuit, to be noticed still, even when using a 10 or 20w bulb.
 
 (snip)
 

That doesn't seem to jive with the scopeshot you presented. One full cycle on the scopeshot takes just under one full division of 0.5 microseconds/div, I'll call it 0.45 microseconds.
So that's actually about 2.2 MHz.

Or, looking at it another way, two full divisions is one microsecond. And there are about 2 1/4 cycles in two divisions. So.... about 2.25 MHz.

Did you post the right scopeshot? I don't see how you are counting 6.8 minor divisions.  Oh.... did you accidentally count a cycle-and-a-half? That would be about 6.8 minor ticks.

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« Reply #10362 on: September 20, 2015, 10:12:29 AM »

The video raise some questions since he is using UPS(Battery in built) to the power  220volts for the 220volts to 24volts converter


Hi Magpwr
Why is that so important? His current meter is at his converter input. Even if he is using a ups or mains grid, the current consumption indication would be the same at converter's input.


Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10363 on: September 20, 2015, 11:52:31 AM »

-Latest update at estimate 220watt power input there is nothing special about URFA video. ;D ;D ;D


Its quite likely that URFA's bulbs were consuming less that 220W, given that once again all we have to go on is the brightness of the bulbs on camera. Again and again we see demonstrations that do not provide adequate measurements. I'm not saying that Geo's comment that he believes the angry sparking is very important is not valid, just that there was insufficient evidence that output was greater than input and that is what URFA was presumably trying to show us.

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10364 on: September 20, 2015, 11:58:19 AM »
  Itsu:
  I've re wound the Kacher secondary, this time a bit more carefully. I also removed some more wire turns, several meters of the mag wire. And further spread the wires apart. Easier said than done...  Agreed!
 
  I count 6.8 sections of the 0.1us sections, with the scope set as before, using the .5us/Div setting. So, putting 0.680 into the CalTool, I get my 1.47Mhz. So, I'm almost to my expected 1.5Mhz minimum frequency starting point. And, I'm still getting decent output, but smaller streams, only about 2mm at the antenna.  No noticeable reaction yet at the bulbs, when connecting the Kacher to induction circuit, to be noticed still, even when using a 10 or 20w bulb.
 
  T-1000 is right in that I'll have to also tune the yoke 3 turns coil circuit to the Kacher circuit. As well as the 3 turns to the grenade output coil, all with an 37.5m earth ground connected. But, I'll need my WIMA caps that are coming in a couple more days, for that round of tuning.
The fun is just beginning... 

   Geo: I'll review that video again.  And get back to you.  How's your project coming???
 
  Here's some shots:


 

Nick,  i have to agree with Tinselkoala, i also fail to see the 6.8 sections for one period, but count 4.5, meaning the mentioned 2.2MHz

Try more amplitude and less peaks on the scope, that will increase your accuracy.

Anyway, you are almost at your 2,4Mhz  :)  if that is what you still want (at 24Khz on the mazilla/inductor coil).

Regards Itsu