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« Reply #8160 on: March 27, 2015, 02:27:52 AM »
  As I found the modulator circuits listed on the Induction Heater (Mazilli circuit), I'm still wondering WHY the linked PWM units can't be connected to a Mazilli, to control it's duty cycle, and frequency. Please explain.
Because the Mazilli is a zero voltage switching circuit and when these zero voltage crossings occur is determined by the LCR parameters of this circuit - not by an external PWM switch.

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« Reply #8161 on: March 27, 2015, 04:31:13 AM »
Because the Mazilli is a zero voltage switching circuit and when these zero voltage crossings occur is determined by the LCR parameters of this circuit - not by an external PWM switch.

hi verpies,

It's been a long time.Respect to you for being one of the early members whom started this kapanadze topic.

Not surprised just small handful of people became impatient along the way and started throwing stones at you indirectly.
"They were just having high hopes from the start that such device can be bought like a kit from a electronic hobby store nearby." :D


PWM can't be applied for mazilli but it can be modulated onto existing frequency which is already running at L/C resonance.
 Solution just install 1 IRF4905 p-channel mosfet at the positive say +12volts then both 240ohms...470ohms resistors connected to drain of IRF4905.

Applying high frequency to gate of IRF4905 we can merely "superimpose high frequency" onto the existing resonance frequency.

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« Reply #8162 on: March 27, 2015, 04:46:56 AM »
  So then, can anything be done for the Mazilli type circuit (induction heater/push-pull oscillator) to be able to use a PWM or similar type of ready made pulse modulation device, to control frequency and duty cycle?
Or, is the use of tuning caps at the yoke's output the only frequency tuning option?  As I suspect.

  As I have several of the IRFP260N fets,  I can build a different driver circuit for the yoke/grenade/Kacher coils, if need be.
I'd like to keep it as simple as possible, first, just to observe the effect of the right combination of pulses, voltages, and so forth.

  When tuning the grenade for a higher output frequency (which does not make the yoke ring). Like 22khz or higher,  the output at the bulbs is not as high, as at the audible ringing levels. There is also frequencies that make the yoke core vibrate strongly, especially with the addition of magnetite magnets placed on the yoke at the right spots. The yoke is the power house of my circuit, and so far the addition of the grenade and Kacher circuits to it, or the two 37.5 meter earth ground lines, haven't made much difference to what just the Mazilli/yoke combo can do by itself to light several 100 watt, 120v  bulbs.   

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« Reply #8163 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:35 AM »
hi everyone,

This is the youtube video of Geofusion which also assisted in providing inspiration for one wire current movement to Earth.

I have attached circuit layout of Geofusion on how to achieve the 1 wire current movement 1.5Amps to 4.1Amps to Earth.This is a easy experiment to conduct to prove the existence of current movement to earth.
The spark gap acts like a nanosecond pulse.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hU5CCBt5k
(Just skip to half way onwards into video)


The attachment by Hoppy which showed the 1 wire transmitter and 1 wire receiver by Nickola tesla made me realized that i have started this kapanadze experiment the wrong way from the start.
We have been focusing on the receiver portion all the way without any thoughts on the transmitter current transmission to Earth.

Just look at the top half of image and merely disregard the 2 wire receiver to Earth since we are merely interested in 1 wire receiver from the Earth.

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There is relationship between voltage and frequency in order to see higher Amps related to 1 wire current to Earth experiment.

For Geofusion experiment assume flyback transformer estimate resonance frequency base on my memory is around 14khz.

But it's HV output  of flyback  eg:28kv would exceed tesla coil/kacher at similar supply voltage eg:24volts.Hence it is important to apply higher voltage around 150volts for kacher\tesla in order to generate higher potential.

For my experiment i am able to see 1.5Amps because i am using higher frequency 700khz but low voltage <300volts.
If low frequency is used say 17khz to 37khz(repetition rate of nanosecond generater as obtained from pwm circuit before switching power to bulbs) the voltage needs to be higher in order to see high current movement to Earth.

Take note nanosecond pulse as applied by electronics or via spark gap is the way to achieve the 1 wire current movement to Earth.
The only disadvantage of spark gap is the repetition rate can't be controlled easily.Fine tuning is needed and this won't last long as the spark gap becomes corroded.

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This is my unproven theory on why the antenna of telsa coil is placed over multilayer coil.

Once the transmitter send current down to earth via 1 wire.At this instant if my theory is correct there would be a sort of vacuum created surrounding the antenna.

The vacuum or void created at the antenna would allow the 1 wire receiver to pull whatever current from the ground in burst to sustain oscillation/power.
"This is where i recall one of the device creator bluntly mentioned explosive discharge".

It would be easy to solve 1 problem at a time hence we just need to focus on the transmitter portion first via kacher to obtain amps without worrying about synchronization or receiver coil for now.


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Scope a must.It can be a one time investment for lifetime without worrying too much about 1 time shipment cost.
Cheap alternative UT136B <$30 with free shipment is able to measure frequency in the 2 Mhz range even remotely in the case of kacher.

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« Reply #8164 on: March 27, 2015, 09:16:16 AM »
  So then, can anything be done for the Mazilli type circuit (induction heater/push-pull oscillator) to be able to use a PWM or similar type of ready made pulse modulation device, to control frequency and duty cycle?
Or, is the use of tuning caps at the yoke's output the only frequency tuning option?  As I suspect.

  As I have several of the IRFP260N fets,  I can build a different driver circuit for the yoke/grenade/Kacher coils, if need be.
I'd like to keep it as simple as possible, first, just to observe the effect of the right combination of pulses, voltages, and so forth.

  When tuning the grenade for a higher output frequency (which does not make the yoke ring). Like 22khz or higher,  the output at the bulbs is not as high, as at the audible ringing levels. There is also frequencies that make the yoke core vibrate strongly, especially with the addition of magnetite magnets placed on the yoke at the right spots. The yoke is the power house of my circuit, and so far the addition of the grenade and Kacher circuits to it, or the two 37.5 meter earth ground lines, haven't made much difference to what just the Mazilli/yoke combo can do by itself to light several 100 watt, 120v  bulbs.

Nick,

Yes, the caps are used to 'tune' the Mazilli. You could also modulate the frequency as described by Magpwr.


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« Reply #8164 on: March 27, 2015, 09:16:16 AM »
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« Reply #8165 on: March 27, 2015, 09:19:49 AM »
hi everyone,

I have attached circuit layout of Geofusion on how to achieve the 1 wire current movement 1.5Amps to 4.1Amps to Earth.This is a easy experiment to conduct to prove the existence of current movement to earth.
The spark gap acts like a nanosecond pulse.


Hi Magpwr,

Have you tried verifying your earth current DVM measurement using a very low value shunt resistor in series with your earth wire to measure the current using a scope?

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« Reply #8166 on: March 27, 2015, 10:52:15 AM »
Hi Magpwr,

Have you tried verifying your earth current DVM measurement using a very low value shunt resistor in series with your earth wire to measure the current using a scope?

hi Hoppy,

The separate 10Amp probe connection slot in the multimeter UT-136B is already connected to a pre-calibrated thick shunt copper wire which is design to measure current up to 10Amps.
I do not own any high watt 1ohms resistor which can handle frequency greater than 50khz since it's common wire wound type.

I am currently waiting for clamp meter :UNI-T UT207A to be delivered for double verification as what was shown by Geofusion.
The only difference clamp meter is isolated way to test for current flow.

I bought bought this meters after review done in youtube user:mjlorton .

I have just tested 566khz tesla coil without any interrupters at DC 105volts merely using full-bridge rectified from the yoke/toroid 28 turns at 22khz 40% duty.
Without any interrupters in place the reading is 0 on both A/C and D/C at 10Amps setting.
This is my first time running tesla coil at 100volts dc which produce nice spark like a electric tree from around top wire.

My previous experiment which i have posted around 2 weeks back i have achieved 146mA at 17volts boosted supply only with the use of interrupters.
Later i would need to assemble a interrupter circuit once more for 100volts tesla coil in order to see any Amps.




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« Reply #8167 on: March 27, 2015, 11:16:22 AM »
Hi all,

It is good to see progress in making one wire energy transmission between circuit and Earth ground.
One of things I would add there: when you have high frequency signals coming through you need to modulate it by low frequency ON/OFF control circuit(like akula/Ruslan did) which make possibility of transforming current going to earth ground over current transformer to the load. Also when doing that you will see approximately  how much power is actually fluctuating between circuit and ground by making 10 turns coil around wire going to the ground and connecting its output to the scope (or having current measurement probe). The clamp meters will always lie about that due high frequencies involved and the best case scenario is to use scope instead...

Cheers!

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« Reply #8168 on: March 27, 2015, 11:32:45 AM »
hi Hoppy,

The separate 10Amp probe connection slot in the multimeter UT-136B is already connected to a pre-calibrated thick shunt copper wire which is design to measure current up to 10Amps.
I do not own any high watt 1ohms resistor which can handle frequency greater than 50khz since it's common wire wound type.

I am currently waiting for clamp meter :UNI-T UT207A to be delivered for double verification as what was shown by Geofusion.
The only difference clamp meter is isolated way to test for current flow.


As you realise, a non-inductive resistor is needed.
As T1000 comments, clamp meters are not suitable for high frequency measurements, as they are generally calibrated for 50Hz or 60Hz.  My fluke clamp meter gives a reasonable indication in the low KHz range. You could use a scope current probe but these are expensive.

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« Reply #8169 on: March 27, 2015, 12:38:47 PM »
Hi all,

It is good to see progress in making one wire energy transmission between circuit and Earth ground.
One of things I would add there: when you have high frequency signals coming through you need to modulate it by low frequency ON/OFF control circuit(like akula/Ruslan did) which make possibility of transforming current going to earth ground over current transformer to the load. Also when doing that you will see approximately  how much power is actually fluctuating between circuit and ground by making 10 turns coil around wire going to the ground and connecting its output to the scope (or having current measurement probe). The clamp meters will always lie about that due high frequencies involved and the best case scenario is to use scope instead...

Cheers!

hi T-1000,

I understand the accuracy of the measurement little questionable without worrying too much.

But like Vasmus,Akula,Tariel and Ruslan since they were using clamp meter which we can see spike of around 4.5Amp at the wire or at the pole.

I am aware the pulse sent down down to Earth is not in sine wave but in high current spikes or explosive discharge pulse.
Hence we need not worrying about getting true RMS meter for this type of testing.


It is good enough for me to experiment in order achieve around this level of current reading at the transmitter stage.


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« Reply #8170 on: March 27, 2015, 12:46:24 PM »
As you realise, a non-inductive resistor is needed.
As T1000 comments, clamp meters are not suitable for high frequency measurements, as they are generally calibrated for 50Hz or 60Hz.  My fluke clamp meter gives a reasonable indication in the low KHz range. You could use a scope current probe but these are expensive.

hi Hoppy,

Yes the scope current probe cost much more than a clamp meter.But it will give clear picture of what is happening."This instrument is out for me" :)

The highest frequency for a clamp meter i have spotted so far is around 1khz or 10khz.But this cost around 300 USD.

The common modern clamp meter are rated for around 500hz.

Time to commence experiment after taking a quick power nap.

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« Reply #8171 on: March 27, 2015, 03:45:15 PM »
hi everyone,

This is the latest findings for today which revealed what went wrong on why i can't obtain high Amps from my existing tesla coil to Earth-

Applying interrupter/pulse-
Using the another tesla coil resonance around 575khz with copper thickness believe to be around 36awg i merely got 0.21Amps a/c to Earth and momentarily at 0.34Amps if signal is provided to mosfet driver which allow it to switch on by varying duty cycle from 0.2% 10khz to 1.9% at 575.5khz .

Then i started digging in order to know what is the current handling capability for a given copper gauge base on maximum current i can achieve with the tesla coil to earth.
I bumped into this site and  look into the table which revealed that for my 36awg copper the maximum current i can ever get is 0.21Amps to Earth for my case.
http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

Solution in order to obtain around 4Amps to Earth spikes i would need to use around 22awg for the tesla coil/kacher after taking winding lost into account.

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Interrupter or duty cycle pulse to tesla coil in order to see maximum amps to earth (This is my 1st experiment so i can't 100% conclude yet)-

Since my tesla coil resonance as discovered is 575.5khz with secondary bottom to earth via capacitor 2.2nf 6.3kv but this value is not critical except the voltage preferably around 1 to 2kv.

Since i need to know the period : 1/575500 = 0.000001737 or 1737ns

At 1.9% duty of 575500hz i got around 62ns for the pulse width on my scope.This is where i got maximum current flow to the earth at 0.21Amps.

1737 / 62 =28  .This translate to interrupter pulse at 1/28  of  the period at resonance in order to see maximum current flow to earth.

"Take note this is my 1st experiment so i can't confirm if it will be 1/28 for other coil setup for interrupter pulse to be used"

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I have attached a drawn circuit diagram for the experiment which was conducted earlier.

I made a small mistake in the diagram the 600volts diode which was connected to drain of IRF740 should be a silicon carbide diode.


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« Reply #8172 on: March 27, 2015, 10:36:36 PM »
Thanks for sharing

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« Reply #8173 on: March 28, 2015, 07:35:56 PM »
Good day All

OK, just posted the videos for the *ground current* SSTC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEBzjiGLPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysm0Zxpz5k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lsk8p8vVDY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP9n5--LOf4

The photo attached is the 100watt bulb and the ground wire with the 2000:1 current transformer with 10R non_inductive resistor
 (to keep the calc.s simple) used with the o-scope in the videos.

The other photos are of the control circuitry I designed for the SSTC in the *ground current video*.

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« Reply #8174 on: March 29, 2015, 03:13:33 AM »
hi everyone,



Then i started digging in order to know what is the current handling capability for a given copper gauge base on maximum current i can achieve with the tesla coil to earth.
I bumped into this site and  look into the table which revealed that for my 36awg copper the maximum current i can ever get is 0.21Amps to Earth for my case.
http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

Solution in order to obtain around 4Amps to Earth spikes i would need to use around 22awg for the tesla coil/kacher after taking winding lost into account.

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Hello All

Just wanted to note that in this video:    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEBzjiGLPs

The diameter of the secondary of the SSTC is 30awg, but the secondary is *apparently* pulling 2.7 amperes current through the earth/ground wire, (20-30 meters of 14awg).

Apparently the gauge of wire used to wind the secondary does not *directly* effect the  earth/ground current.

Forgot to mention that the PLL is locking in at about 260kHz.............which is just at the limit of current saturation/skin effect for 30awg wire.

take care, peace
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