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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11798462 times)

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6150 on: October 27, 2014, 10:41:51 AM »
Quote from: MenofFather on October 27, 2014, 10:39:42 AM
Ruslan first say in video that kacher frenquency is 2 megaherc (in 12 volt system). Then I ask in forum "Realy 2 megaherc kacher frenquency?" Then he made new video and say in that video, that kacher frenquency in that divice is 1.5-1.6 megaherc.  :)

Hi MenofFather. Ok, thanks, but this is definitely confusing.  ;D
All the best...
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6151 on: October 27, 2014, 10:53:08 AM »
Quote from: MenofFather on October 27, 2014, 10:39:42 AM
Ruslan first say in video that kacher frenquency is 2 megaherc (in 12 volt system). Then I ask in forum "Realy 2 megaherc kacher frenquency?" Then he made new video and say in that video, that kacher frenquency in that divice is 1.5-1.6 megaherc.  :)

My first Kacher wind ran at around 2MHz unloaded and dropped to around 1.6MHz when loaded with an ali top load, so maybe Ruslan gave an unloaded measurement for the 12V system and a loaded measurement in the new video.
Isn't this fun.  ;D He might get mixed up himself - he's only human.  :P
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6152 on: October 27, 2014, 11:03:00 AM »
Quote from: Void on October 27, 2014, 10:33:03 AM

"The ground wire must be at least 16 squares and held as far as possible from vandals. 

Given that this little baby ends up working, have you considered how long those copper ground wires are going to stay intact in peoples backyards. I live on the outskirts of London, so not very long here!  :(
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6153 on: October 27, 2014, 11:05:21 AM »
Quote from: Hoppy on October 27, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
My first Kacher wind ran at around 2MHz unloaded and dropped to around 1.6MHz when loaded with an ali top load, so maybe Ruslan gave an unloaded measurement for the 12V system and a loaded measurement in the new video.
Isn't this fun.  ;D He might get mixed up himself - he's only human.  :P

Hi Hoppy. From what I have observed, what Ruslan has been saying has been
changing over time. It does seem that Ruslan is still trying to figure out a
lot of this stuff himself, and/or he may be still intentionally leaving some details unclear.

I know that if I had figured out how to determine the correct tesla coil frequency to make
these devices work, that I wouldn't likely have any problem writing a clear description of that procedure down.
I am pretty sure that Ruslan is either still not very clear at all himself of what determines the
right frequency for the tesla coil, etc., or he still does not want to give this information out. (or he is pulling our leg).  ;)

All the best...
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Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6154 on: October 27, 2014, 11:08:58 AM »
Quote from: Hoppy on October 27, 2014, 11:03:00 AM
Given that this little baby ends up working, have you considered how long those copper ground wires are going to stay intact in peoples backyards. I live on the outskirts of London, so not very long here!  :(

Heh. I don't know if that translated correctly, but that is how it came out.  :)
Well wires can be buried, or you could maybe keep the excess ground wire
coiled up indoors and have your ground stake right at the edge of your house.
It appears even a radiator pipe works, so if you have copper water pipe running out
into the ground from the house that might work well as well.
All the best...

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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6155 on: October 27, 2014, 11:13:09 AM »
To add to the confusion, how come the bifilar coil (2x25 turns) leads are not coming from 1 side
which should be when having 2 layers?

Is it changed to 3 layers to accommodate more length (like half of 37.5m = 18.75m)?

snapshot taken from this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clQ-oiLNZt0

Regards Itsu
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6156 on: October 27, 2014, 11:17:30 AM »
Quote from: itsu on October 27, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
To add to the confusion, how come the bifilar coil (2x25 turns) leads are not coming from 1 side
which should be when having 2 layers?

Is it changed to 3 layers to accommodate more length (like half of 37.5m = 18.75m)?

snapshot taken from this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clQ-oiLNZt0

Regards Itsu
Seems, that ruslan in 12 V and 24 volts systems use inductor as bifilar coil of two layers of 11 meters. In one post in one forum he write, that in 12 V system inductor is 11 meters lenght. :)
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6157 on: October 27, 2014, 11:20:23 AM »
Quote from: itsu on October 27, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
To add to the confusion, how come the bifilar coil (2x25 turns) leads are not coming from 1 side
which should be when having 2 layers?

Is it changed to 3 layers to accommodate more length (like half of 37.5m = 18.75m)?

snapshot taken from this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clQ-oiLNZt0

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu. I don't know, but he may have just kept winding as many layers as it took
to get 18.75m of wire on there. How many layers does it take to fit 18.75m of wire
in a ~10cm long space? I haven't tried this yet.
All the best...
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6158 on: October 27, 2014, 11:31:30 AM »
Quote from: MenofFather on October 27, 2014, 11:17:30 AM
Seems, that ruslan in 12 V and 24 volts systems use inductor as bifilar coil of two layers of 11 meters. In one post in one forum he write, that in 12 V system inductor is 11 meters lenght. :)

But a bifilar coil of 11m in 2 layers would have the leads come out at one side, see my video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3B-YyLGT_0.

It fits in 10cm length, so 3 layers would give 16.5m, so my guess is its 3 layers with some extended length like 12cm
to come up with 18,75m (half the Grenade).

Regards itsu
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MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6159 on: October 27, 2014, 11:35:24 AM »
Quote from: itsu on October 27, 2014, 11:31:30 AM
But a bifilar coil of 11m in 2 layers would have the leads come out at one side, see my video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3B-YyLGT_0.

Regards itsu
In you video is not bifilar. Ruslan say how need wound inductor. First wound normal, then wire must go to other and and on this wire wound need second layer.
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6160 on: October 27, 2014, 11:40:53 AM »
Quote from: MenofFather on October 27, 2014, 11:35:24 AM
In you video is not bifilar. Ruslan say how need wound inductor. First wound normal, then wire must go to other and and on this wire wound need second layer.

Hi MenofFather. T-1000 translated that Ruslan said this coil is wound like Leedskalnin's PMH coils.
If that is correct then you wind the first layer of the coil from one end to the other end, then
continue winding from that end back towards the first end, and still winding in the same direction. Just like
the first two layers of the grenade are wound for example.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6161 on: October 27, 2014, 11:55:29 AM »
To summarize the issue with determining the tesla coil frequency, Ruslan has stated
several times (as I understand it) that the frequency of the tesla coil is not dependent on any 'LC resonances'
that the grenade coil may have, that it is based on the grenade coil wire length. Now here
is the problem. If the above statement is true, then the frequency of the tesla coil should
be some exact multiple or sub multiple of 2MHz, 4MHz, or 8 MHz (depending
whether you take the grenade coil as a quarter wave, half wave, or full wave). 
Certainly 1.5 MHz to 1.6 MHz does not divide as a whole number into any of those
frequencies, nor is it 1/3 of any of those frequencies. What Ruslan has been saying
is just not consistent with the actual frequency he says he is tuning the tesla coil to and with the 
grenade coil wire length Ruslan said he has been using (37.5m for the 12V device, not sure for the 24V device).

It is not related to the tesla coil being resonant at say 2 MHz unloaded, and a lower frequency
when loaded, as that is not what Ruslan has been saying at all. Ruslan has said (or at least implied)
the operating frequency that the tesla coil is tuned to is dependent on the grenade coil wire length.
A tesla coil operating frequency of 1.5MHz to 1.6 MHz does not have any obvious relationship to a
grenade coil wire length of 37.5m that I can see. Something is just wrong there.
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6162 on: October 27, 2014, 12:09:10 PM »
Not sure why are we discussion the "grenade coil" as it is perfectly shown and described  on his video "how to make a coil" . Ok, maybe pain in an ars for non Russian speaking- let me make it  clear for you.

He is not "turns" oriented - he only measure the length of wire which fitted to his roughly 21 cm length.
You wind the first layer and back the second layer. After you move to the halfe and wind third layer in OPPOSITE DIRECTION and 4th layer back. You move than to halfe of halff (actually 1/4)  and continue two more layers  the same  like previous one.  After he just went with the wire shorted way  to the tube and out.  He noted what lenght he used and calculated the 14/4 wave frequency and tune the Tesla to that frequency.  On the first layer he  wind the inductor which is exact half of length of the wire of the grenade coil. I think it was in opposite direction with respect to the first two layers, but it is not as much important.  The total inductance of all coil should be low - he measured his around 0.25mH.   Today I watched some more his final video where he clearly state his Tesla has at the end (between tesla and grenade coil) some turns OPPOSITE direction than Tesla is wound. He also says the best result he is getting with his system around 1.8 MHz.   I didn't get to such details during my build yet. I am trying get my katcher to my 1.87 MHz now :)

For Russian speaking or understunding- there will be open discussion on the skype  in 2.11.2014 at 15.00 of Moscow time. More info here: http://realstrannik.com/forum/freeenergylt-antanas/48-ruslana-kulabukhova-audio-konferentsii.html#1325
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6163 on: October 27, 2014, 12:18:12 PM »
Quote from: John.K1 on October 27, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Not sure why are we discussion the "grenade coil" as it is perfectly shown and described  on his video "how to make a coil" . Ok, maybe pain in an ars for non Russian speaking- let me make it  clear for you.

He is not "turns" oriented - he only measure the length of wire which fitted to his roughly 21 cm length.
You wind the first layer and back the second layer. After you move to the halfe and wind third layer in OPPOSITE DIRECTION and 4th layer back. You move than to halfe of halff (actually 1/4)  and continue two more layers  the same  like previous one.  After he just went with the wire shorted way  to the tube and out.  He noted what lenght he used and calculated the 14/4 wave frequency and tune the Tesla to that frequency.  On the first layer he  wind the inductor which is exact half of length of the wire of the grenade coil. I think it was in opposite direction with respect to the first two layers, but it is not as much important.  The total inductance of all coil should be low - he measured his around 0.25mH.   Today I watched some more his final video where he clearly state his Tesla has at the end (between tesla and grenade coil) some turns OPPOSITE direction than Tesla is wound. He also says the best result he is getting with his system around 1.8 MHz.   I didn't get to such details during my build yet. I am trying get my katcher to my 1.87 MHz now :)

For Russian speaking or understunding- there will be open discussion on the skype  in 2.11.2014 at 15.00 of Moscow time. More info here: http://realstrannik.com/forum/freeenergylt-antanas/48-ruslana-kulabukhova-audio-konferentsii.html#1325

Hi John. You have completely missed the point on both topics being discussed above. ;)
There was no questions raised about how to wind the grenade coil above.
Yes, there are also different translations of Ruslan's tesla coil frequencies being both 1.5 MHz to 1.6 MHz,
and 1.8 MHz being posted here as well.   ;D
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6164 on: October 27, 2014, 12:23:46 PM »
Quote from: Void on October 27, 2014, 11:40:53 AM
Hi MenofFather. T-1000 translated that Ruslan said this coil is wound like Leedskalnin's PMH coils.
If that is correct then you wind the first layer of the coil from one end to the other end, then
continue winding from that end back towards the first end, and still winding in the same direction. Just like
the first two layers of the grenade are wound for example.
All the best...


The "Leedskalnin PMH" was my comment and the winding direction is always beginning from same end which means 1 layer until end then 1 turn to beginning and next layer on top from same end as first layer...
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