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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5895 on: October 20, 2014, 08:21:51 AM »
Oh well... lost some.


I concur posts that say "MUST" and "MUST NOT" are discouraging.  May, Can... are better negotiating terms.


Kacher tuning; the primary definately matters... between 2 and 8 turns is quite a difference of avaialble wave forms.  Also have my primary kind of close to the secondary.


Need to document some of these changes as I go through them... even with a filter choke and caps the signal still leaks to the power supply side... although I do have something that may be inducting a pickup kind of near.


I have a low frequency (485Khz, 856Khz kinda) resonanting going on; I changed transistors also.  I added dual 5V zeners , and tried an additional diode from the base to ground, but the base refused to stop going below ground.  But at different voltages I can see ringing that's high frequency; even up to 10Mhz.... I guess that's on the collector from the secondary.... well I guess it's somewhat isolated from 'ground' so relatively it's really not below ground....


Is there advantage to driving the coil as kinda a dipole - as in from the center with power on one side and the other open?  So many things to make note of...


was trying balancing resistors to power and ground to the base too... and was able to tune the same coil up to 1.12Mhz something... but it was really noisy, and needed to be a better harmonic.  So ...
49m = 6.122448979591837Mhz
I can get 2.5Mhz with 2n3055 that's no good


could wish the kacher didn't have to have amps... it does doesn't it?
*shrug* kacher is pretty weak stiil

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5895 on: October 20, 2014, 08:21:51 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5896 on: October 20, 2014, 09:16:13 AM »
Схема Topruslan 6  :)

Установка Руслана Кулабухова
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_zn0cdzv_qfsxQUm4e7R9w/videos

Успехов !!!!
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Brovin's Katcher info
Magnet wire 0.8mm diameter on 50 mm tube diammeter about 11,5cm....12cm lenght on same axis as Grenade coil. Secondary direction opposite Katcher primary.

All power now going from 24V/7A - use two accumulators 12V/7Ah each.
All 3 fans are for 24V
End of Grenade (coil 6 is now grounded). All grounding in one point and with conductor 16 mm2 at copper bar in earth.
If you use computer PS use power isolation diode for min 7A on output of PS.


Enjoykin,


Thanks for this info  and reply on earth cable. A couple of comments: -


Its interesting that the Kacher secondary winding is now quite short at around 11.5cm…12cm and confirms what Itsu has found in his latest video. I'm wondering if as I mentioned some time back, whether Ruslan used that strip we saw in his video to insulate and spread groups of windings, giving the impression that the coil is much longer. This matter needs clarification.


The circuit diagram shows 24V 3-pin voltage regulators being input 24V and output 24V. This is strange given that these regulators cannot output a properly regulated voltage at the same voltage as the input. More importantly, the TC4420 mosfet driver has a supply voltage rating of 20V max! Did Ruslan produce this circuit diagram?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5897 on: October 20, 2014, 09:45:55 AM »
Itsu, i have no idea where  you have the 15 volt zeners, but can you next time put 2 3.7volt basic to back zeners or so in the base of the bipolar switcher to zero, or protect it, or if you will exceed the base emitter voltage you will blow the device into the next life, you could look up the data of your device on the net. All the best, keep up the the good work ;).

Thanks AG,

I have requested the schematic of this VSP 2410 Voltcraft PS, but it seems its not available with them (Voltcraft/Conrad) >:(
There where 2 15V zeners protecting the gates (not enough it seems) which i have ordered and will be replacing one on one.

Regards Itsu


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« Reply #5897 on: October 20, 2014, 09:45:55 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5898 on: October 20, 2014, 10:05:56 AM »
hi itsu,

Have you factored in the 60th Subharmonics of 2.1MhZ which now your circuit need to run at 35khz just be in sync.

If you do a scope ref save base on your current setup at 2.1Mhz and if you are still sticking with 26.1khz.You will definitely noticed that both your waveform will not be aligned at all.
Maybe simple solution for you now is to slowly increase the yoke driver frequency to 35khz and observe if there is any increase in brightness without the nanopulse generator.

I have attached the harmonics calculator once more with your 2.1Mhz in it and please take a look at 60th Subharmonics as rough guide.

You do have the gift in producing elegant setup with the proper tools and  a nice bench but it would be pointless if you don't strictly follow the rules of harmonics as a guideline."Please don't be offended"

Ruslan did mention somewhere in forum do not use the spectrum analyzer for the multilayer coil.
At 60th Subharmonics if you got my point.

"Dear all this is not a science fair project provided if you realized this by now.I even noticed some of you don't even care about the spacing for the outer layer and simply wind this directly thick wire onto the coil.The reason for the spacing is to ensure the tesla coil resonance will not be tampered with if there is load eg:bulb.Provided if you are still serious in creating this device.This project is not about who finish first it's far more than that"

Thanks Magpwr,

i mentioned above that i was tuning the thing so i did change the TL494 frequency up and down, but no special effects seen other then that the bulbs went out   :P
As my 2x 25 coil with the 0.47uF cap resonates at 26.5 KHz, setting the TL494 to 35KHz kills the resonance, so i have to adjust also the capacitor to match.   Quick check shows i need about 0.22uF, so can use 2 of those 0.47uF caps in series.

Thanks, Regards itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5899 on: October 20, 2014, 10:35:02 AM »
Thanks Hoppy

All mistakes fixed - for present time !! :)
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg420547/#msg420547


Hoppy quick calc give me these values:

total lenght of Ruslan Katcher secondary wire is 24 m for 12 cm or 23 m for 11,5 cm Katcher secondary lenght. Wire lenght from end to end.
If you have some online calc you can estimate roughly inductance.
If we take in account about 2x 25cm for both ends it will be with 97% probability from 23,5 to 24,5 m, Retuning should be with attached ground.  :)

What is interesting to me is total lenght of Katcher secondary is 6,25 part of Kathcer wave lenght which is 150m. Of course this lengjht need to be retunned again for first start. Finest tunning should be done with small bifilar choke with two opposite windings at distance 3-4 cm.

Reg..
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Man called Denny from our Russian forum has caught OU effect - but only 60W power for free. What is interesting is he was excited not bifilar inductor but Grenade coils layers 5 and 6.
Now he rewounded coils so will see does he wiil catch OU effect again or not !!

his video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLLiwzfoeE

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Hi Itsu

Try to lower resonant frequency of your Grenade on 17,5KHz...18,5 KHz. For this you will need capacity about 1uf-1.2 uf. Two 0,47uf capacitors and one or two from 100nf.

What i want to say is this:
Katcher must resonate on some odd harmonic of resonant frequency of Grenade coil. Grenade is our reference point.  We need wave resonance here. Wave resonance is centering many small wavelanghts to one biger. or simple we need to devide one wave lenght on odd equal integers.
Only in odd integers we have constant phase shift for both wavelenght,

Try analyse picture - настройка:   

I was watching Akula video and saw he was tunned his Tesla transformer on 3rd overtone of Grenade resonant frequency.  It was about 170KHz.
Number of harmonics for Katcher must be odd because we must put whole number of Katcher periodes to reference periode of Grenade coil. (worth also for wavelenghts).

I want to ask you to record in high resolution complete cpectra from 0 Hz up to 100 MHZ on your Tektroniks oscilloscope and to zoom main spectra peaks especially in lowest range from 0Hz up to several MHz. I need these data to try catch some correlations between processes here. I think there are involved several very complex processes. You can use 1 m copper wire at couple of meters distance as antenna for your 50 ohm analyser input.

Reg.

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Let's teach from Master of Electricity - Great Nikola Tesla about phasing coils.
Analyse picture below.

Reg.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5899 on: October 20, 2014, 10:35:02 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5900 on: October 20, 2014, 12:37:43 PM »
The circuit diagram shows 24V 3-pin voltage regulators being input 24V and output 24V. This is strange given that these regulators cannot output a properly regulated voltage at the same voltage as the input. More importantly, the TC4420 mosfet driver has a supply voltage rating of 20V max! Did Ruslan produce this circuit diagram?

Hi Hoppy. Ruslan has not produced any schematics other than the hand drawn schematics
he has shown in a couple of his videos. You were looking at another kludge by someone
who appears to have little idea of what they are doing. It is no different than the many other endless
schematics du jour that keep getting posted in these forums, if you catch my drift.  ;)
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5901 on: October 20, 2014, 12:44:31 PM »
Man called Denny from our Russian forum has caught OU effect - but only 60W power for free. What is interesting is he was excited not bifilar inductor but Grenade coils layers 5 and 6.
Now he rewounded coils so will see does he wiil catch OU effect again or not !!
his video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLLiwzfoeE

I see no indication of overunity in that video at all.
A tesla coil will transfer energy to a filament light bulb through an air coil, especially
if the coil is at or near resonance on the same frequency as the tesla coil. Perfectly normal.
Unless you are comparing proper measurements of total power input
to total power output, you cannot reasonably make any conclusions about over unity.
A glowing partially lit lightbulb in a video actually tells you very little... :)
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5902 on: October 20, 2014, 01:02:22 PM »
Is there advantage to driving the coil as kinda a dipole - as in from the center with power on one side and the other open?  So many things to make note of...

was trying balancing resistors to power and ground to the base too... and was able to tune the same coil up to 1.12Mhz something... but it was really noisy, and needed to be a better harmonic.  So ...
49m = 6.122448979591837Mhz
I can get 2.5Mhz with 2n3055 that's no good


could wish the kacher didn't have to have amps... it does doesn't it?
*shrug* kacher is pretty weak stiil

Hi d3x0r.  Driving a tesla coil with the primary windings at the bottom or at the center will definitely
give some difference in results. It depends what you are trying to achieve.
The 2N3055 has a max frequency spec (Ft) of 2.5 MHz. The 2SC5200 has a max
frequency spec of 30 MHz. The 2SC5200  should give a much better performance in a kacher circuit
running in the low MHz range.
All the best...



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5903 on: October 20, 2014, 01:40:15 PM »
Hi Hoppy. Ruslan has not produced any schematics other than the hand drawn schematics
he has shown in a couple of his videos. You were looking at another kludge by someone
who appears to have little idea of what they are doing. It is no different than the many other endless
schematics du jour that keep getting posted in these forums, if you catch my drift.  ;)
All the best...


Hi Void,

Yes, I do catch your drift and although I am taking this project seriously because IMO it flies in the face of credibility. Ruslan appears to have worked through numerous variations and we just don't know how many, if any of these have actually self ran. Its just a case of assuming he did succeed as he does seem to spend a lot of time sharing build information and is presumably sincere. Alternatively, he just likes keeping people up to date with his experimentation towards the goal to achieve a self-runner.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5904 on: October 20, 2014, 01:54:30 PM »

Hi Itsu

Try to lower resonant frequency of your Grenade on 17,5KHz...18,5 KHz. For this you will need capacity about 1uf-1.2 uf. Two 0,47uf capacitors and one or two from 100nf.

What i want to say is this:
Katcher must resonate on some odd harmonic of resonant frequency of Grenade coil. Grenade is our reference point.  We need wave resonance here. Wave resonance is centering many small wavelanghts to one biger. or simple we need to devide one wave lenght on odd equal integers.
Only in odd integers we have constant phase shift for both wavelenght,

Try analyse picture - настройка:   

I was watching Akula video and saw he was tunned his Tesla transformer on 3rd overtone of Grenade resonant frequency.  It was about 170KHz.
Number of harmonics for Katcher must be odd because we must put whole number of Katcher periodes to reference periode of Grenade coil. (worth also for wavelenghts).

I want to ask you to record in high resolution complete cpectra from 0 Hz up to 100 MHZ on your Tektroniks oscilloscope and to zoom main spectra peaks especially in lowest range from 0Hz up to several MHz. I need these data to try catch some correlations between processes here. I think there are involved several very complex processes. You can use 1 m copper wire at couple of meters distance as antenna for your 50 ohm analyser input.

Reg.

Hmmm, my grenade does not have any parallel capacitor and it does not resonate in the low KHz range, more like
970KHz, 2.1MHz and 4MHz (self resonance).

Do you mean my 2x 25 bifilar coil?  That one resonates now at 26.5KHz with the 0.47uF capacitor in series.

The only (parallel) capacitor on the Grenade coil on your latest diagram and on the one hand drawn by Ruslan is a 10uF capacitor near the bulbs,
see below.  (or is this a smooting capacitor as 10uF is way to much for resonance?)

Also there you see that the link drawn in between the Grenade coil and the 2x25 t coil is missing in this latest diagram (it was never in the older
ones either).

So more confusion here.

Concerning your request about "to record in high resolution complete cpectra", no problem to help if possible, but i am not sure i follow you.
My Tektroniks oscilloscope is just that, an oscilloscope, no spectrum analyser, or do you mean the FFT function?
I then need to sweep the whole range  0 Hz up to 100 MHZ  using my Function generator.
And what to scan?  The grenade coil, the 2x 25turn bifilar coil?  Please explain.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5905 on: October 20, 2014, 02:12:07 PM »

Hi Void,

Yes, I do catch your drift and although I am taking this project seriously because IMO it flies in the face of credibility. Ruslan appears to have worked through numerous variations and we just don't know how many, if any of these have actually self ran. Its just a case of assuming he did succeed as he does seem to spend a lot of time sharing build information and is presumably sincere. Alternatively, he just likes keeping people up to date with his experimentation towards the goal to achieve a self-runner.

Hi Hoppy. It appears Ruslan had at least a couple of circuit variations self running.
One with a nanopulser driver (transistor kept blowing on him I believe) and another variation
with a kacher driver of some sort. I can't say for sure if it was real of course, but Ruslan does seem
sincere and he is putting a lot of effort into these devices, just as Akula did.  I am inclined to think it
may well have been working as shown anyway. I just think that Ruslan is still trying to figure out many
things himself, and therefore is doing a lot of experimenting and trying different variations like the rest of us.
The difference is that if he did have those previous circuits self running as shown, he probably has a much better
idea of what direction to go. :)
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5906 on: October 20, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »
Guys so many things to tell so I will keep it at the basics.

Itsu, it was my false that I never told you my initial katcher setup while I noticed the drifting. I was using only the two bias resistors at the gate and nothing else. The most simple arrangement. I wonder if you have something else connected to base and so keep your frequency steady! Please advice.

Void, I am very sorry but my eyes started to deceive me. Just today I searched and found your katcher answer. :)

Enjoikin. Mission complete. Everything is aligned now in terms of resonance and I already ordered the beers!!! But let me describe what I did in case that somebody else is on the same spirit.
My design is the one of Ruslan's hand made.

Grenade and 28T are in series. Both lengths has to be measured and calculated. My grenade on a 5cm pipe has a total of 32.2m. 28T winded on my yoke are 4m. Connection wires length total 1.7m. All together comes to a 37.9m. I omit some 40cm from the connection wires and vouala. My line now is 37.5m and it is the first time that my base frequency correspond to the right and calculated wavelength.

Then, I measured the line of the 3T circuitry. All the line from capacitor's leg to leg was 12m. Including the inductor the 3T length and the length of the connection cables. I added in series a heavy wire choke of 6.75m.
Total 18.75m

I rebuild my ground so now I also have a 18.75m cable up to the copper rod.

My latest measurements are at last aligned to the calculated values. 8Mhz base frequency, 2Mhz and 1Mhz dominant sub-frequencies, with 1Mhz giving the higher peak. Both of the lines now give rise synchronously at the same frequencies and harmonics. I feel guys that this was one of the last Ruslan's secret keys. Now it is a matter of time and team work to drive it to the end.

Ps. Enjoikin my friend all of the people inside here are somewhat dreamers. The ones that are not are on the www.underunity.com :D

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« Reply #5907 on: October 20, 2014, 02:27:50 PM »
Thanks for reply Itsu !!  :)

Yes, you are right I mean on 2x 25 turns bifilar coil. He was wounded on Grenade so i see him as Grenade coil.  :)

Ruslan has not drawn any schematic except that block diagram so we can conclude about his device in details.

End of Grenade is 6th layer from my point of view. Ruslan has mentioned in his 108 min interview that end of Grenade should be grounded. Also Dennys told me the same because he catch effect but very unstable. I suspect on synchronization because he did not made PLL circuit and control logic. He was excited end of grande where are all 6 layers and got effect while on bifllar side nothing. He was planed to rewind complete Grande coil exactly like Ruslan grenade. What is interesting Ruslan did the same. His brown coil is not the same as last one shown in his newest video. Brownl coil was complete mirrored in respect to 2nd - new coil. You can try both version 6th on ground 1st on yoke like in my schematic or 6th on joke 1st on ground. Try if you want.
Keep in mind on Blue coil as i have shown in my recent posts. Picture was recorded from working 5kWatt device. Winding directions are exactly same like Ruslan Grenade.

That schematic i was drawn for myself and it is not complete schematic. Maybe Ruslan will draw complete working schematic but maybe.

About scpetra if you want you can scan 2x 25turn bifilar coil. No need to 100MHz - only to 10MHz.
I was thinking you have wide band spectrum analyser in your equipments. I was wrong.
The reason why i have asked you to record spectra is to find all harmonics involved and find some correlation between them.  I think main role here are plying odd harmonics of referent frequency 17KHz---35KHz.

Have you any idea why Akula tunned his Tesla exactly on 3td overtone of referent frequency?
Why not 2nd or 4th ??

Little time ago i was drawn simple snubber schematic for IRFP260N fets from Akula picture.
Maybe help somebody,

On above picture i was swapped markings for bifilar and Tesla coil in equation.

Shoud be fTesla = k x fbif:)

It mens resonant frequency of Tesla (or Katcher) coil is odd multiple of resonant frequency of 2x 25 turns bifilar. Take attention how 3 full periodes completely merge in one big periode 3 times longer,
On even harmonics you never be able to do that.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5908 on: October 20, 2014, 02:28:15 PM »
Also there you see that the link drawn in between the Grenade coil and the 2x25 t coil is missing in this latest diagram (it was never in the older
ones either).

So more confusion here.

Concerning your request about "to record in high resolution complete cpectra", no problem to help if possible, but i am not sure i follow you.
My Tektroniks oscilloscope is just that, an oscilloscope, no spectrum analyser, or do you mean the FFT function?
I then need to sweep the whole range  0 Hz up to 100 MHZ  using my Function generator.
And what to scan?  The grenade coil, the 2x 25turn bifilar coil?  Please explain.

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu. It has not really been translated what Ruslan said when he drew that connection between
the two yoke secondary windings. It would help if a Russian speaker could translate what he said there.
I wasn't clear at all if Ruslan was just showing that you can ground one side of both windings, or if he was
saying that a possible variation is you could do away with the series resonance winding and 2x25 winding
part and just drive the grenade winding directly with one secondary winding on the yoke. Maybe he was
just pointing out that you can ground one side of both windings however. Not sure at all.

The following might work. If your function generator has a setting that produces a good broad frequency white noise signal
well into the high MHz range, you could drive your grenade coil with that and monitor with the FFT spectrum analyzer mode
on your scope. You should see some peaks at frequencies where there are resonances. Although
Akula made a video talking about locating such resonances, Ruslan seems to put little importance
to them. Ruslan says he is basing everything thing off fractions or multiples of wire length.
Seems to be working for Ruslan. :)
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5909 on: October 20, 2014, 02:50:31 PM »
Void, I am very sorry but my eyes started to deceive me. Just today I searched and found your katcher answer. :)

Then, I measured the line of the 3T circuitry. All the line from capacitor's leg to leg was 12m. Including the inductor the 3T length and the length of the connection cables. I added in series a heavy wire choke of 6.75m.
Total 18.75m

I rebuild my ground so now I also have a 18.75m cable up to the copper rod.

My latest measurements are at last aligned to the calculated values. 8Mhz base frequency, 2Mhz and 1Mhz dominant sub-frequencies, with 1Mhz giving the higher peak. Both of the lines now give rise synchronously at the same frequencies and harmonics. I feel guys that this was one of the last Ruslan's secret keys. Now it is a matter of time and team work to drive it to the end.

Hi Jeg. No worries mate. Just wanted to make sure you saw that comment.
Interesting that you are getting a resonance right on 2MHz and 1 MHz with
your new coil setup. That 6.75m choke in the series resonant loop will
likely lower the voltage at least somewhat across the 2x25 (or whatever winding count you used)
primary winding on the grenade. That is because it will drop voltage across it and take
voltage away from the primary winding. It will also likely reduce the current in that loop
a fair bit as well.
All the best...

 

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