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Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5641 on: October 07, 2014, 08:13:43 PM »

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« Reply #5642 on: October 07, 2014, 09:48:56 PM »
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« Reply #5643 on: October 07, 2014, 09:52:18 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5644 on: October 07, 2014, 11:55:07 PM »
@ Mag,

I'm not sure that you have the yoke output connections to the Kacher and Grenade coils correct. I think the original circuit looks more viable as the main lamp load is driven in series with the grenade coil. Your altered configuration has the lamp load relying on air cored induced power from the 3-turn winding on the yoke and Kacher. It also makes more sense to me that the kacher primary is powered from the main supply rail and pulsed by the nano-pulser.

What is the NTC5 doing??

hi Hoppy,

Base on reading Russian forum few days ago the role of "NTC5" as mentioned by Ruslan is to make the tuning process easy."This part i do not understand at the moment but maybe later stage i will"

The result of google translation(Russian to English) does remind me of -Yoda. :D

Nanosecond driver stage is completed.Time to focus on other areas of the device slowly one step at a time.

The yoke which i have at the moment is a baby meant for 14" TV.
I would need to find a suitable size yoke maybe 1 month wait again.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5645 on: October 08, 2014, 12:24:10 AM »
hi itsu,

May i ask can your "High voltage probe" detect nanosecond pulse base on old circuit which you have created some time ago.Eg:1.5volt version or etc.

The reason being my 40KV   x1000 probe is unable to see anything .No waveform detected for nanosecond.

If your HV probe is able to detect nanosecond can you provide me your probe model or spec.Thanks.

I have made a wrong move few months ago. :'(

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5646 on: October 08, 2014, 09:22:01 AM »
hi Hoppy,

The yoke which i have at the moment is a baby meant for 14" TV.
I would need to find a suitable size yoke maybe 1 month wait again.

Mag,

Thanks for comments on the purpose of the NTC5.

That's an advantage I have living in the UK. Next day delivery on almost any component.  :) Having said this, it does not include TV yokes that are now pricey, even on e-bay. Best bet is visit your nearest refuse centre and look for a big old TV. My refuse centre does not allow the public to take electronic items but a few bob dropped.... :) Better still try to get hold of one of those magic Russian yokes.  ;D

You commented back Jeg in post 5438:-
 "hi Jeg. Honestly i am not interested in Brutto drawings like he is the teacher for Ruslan. Don't you find it's silly constructing a step up secondary coil on yoke and connecting a bulb to it. These are the silly things which prevent people from progressing in this topic for so long"

Please explain why you think this is silly.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5647 on: October 08, 2014, 09:47:09 AM »
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I was thinking in terms of loading the 28 turns with a FWBR and 30W of lamps as per circuit schematic. I assume that you have nice short gate leads.


Ok,  i could try that (the original Ruslan diagram does not has a FWBR), i will use fast UF4007's, the 550Vpp would light up the 30W nicely i guess.

The gate leads are the 11 Ohm (in my case 4.7 Ohm) resistors with some short wire length, but if it will not improve by any
snubber methode i use, i will have to change the circuit as to have the MOSFET's separated (now on one PCB / heatsink) each on its own PCB/heatsink and the MOSFET drivers also on these PCB's (drivers now still on the breadboard with the TL494).

Regards Itsu


I put a FWBR made of 4x UF4007's and a 470nF capacitor at the 28 turns secondary of the yoke (after adding extra 28 zeners, see below).
There was a 57V DC-like (very irregular peaks to zero) signal which caused a 220V / 25W bulb to dimly glow.

The both MOSFET's drain signal was still ringing and irregular, even after adding an extra pair of 28V zeners in series with a schottky diode (cathode to cathode) across each of the 6 turn primary of the yoke.
The signal did improve because of this (most high peaks are gone), but still the switching was irregular.


I will dismantle the present MOSFET setup (both MOSFET's on 1 PCB/heatsink) and go for separate PCB/heatsinks with the MOSFET driver also on that PCB.

Regards Itsu 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5648 on: October 08, 2014, 10:06:22 AM »


I put a FWBR made of 4x UF4007's and a 470nF capacitor at the 28 turns secondary of the yoke (after adding extra 28 zeners, see below).
There was a 57V DC-like (very irregular peaks to zero) signal which caused a 220V / 25W bulb to dimly glow.

The both MOSFET's drain signal was still ringing and irregular, even after adding an extra pair of 28V zeners in series with a schottky diode (cathode to cathode) across each of the 6 turn primary of the yoke.
The signal did improve because of this (most high peaks are gone), but still the switching was irregular.


I will dismantle the present MOSFET setup (both MOSFET's on 1 PCB/heatsink) and go for separate PCB/heatsinks with the MOSFET driver also on that PCB.

Regards Itsu

Itsu,

Thanks for trying this. Have you got back-to-back 18V zeners between the gates and ground? Also, try a 47uF tantalum caps directly across the supply lines close to each of your mosfet driver chips.

Edit: Also, try a low gate resistor value around 4R7.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5649 on: October 08, 2014, 10:53:19 AM »
Itsu,

Thanks for trying this. Have you got back-to-back 18V zeners between the gates and ground? Also, try a 47uF tantalum caps directly across the supply lines close to each of your mosfet driver chips.

Edit: Also, try a low gate resistor value around 4R7.

Hoppy,

i have 12V TVS's across gate to ground, and a 4.7Ohm resistor between driver and gate, see diagram of my present snubber circuit below
ALL items are in place, in red those with different values then original (also, the UF4007 (in my case) across the 10 (7.5) Ohm resistor is REVERSED, so cathode to ground!).

The gate signal is good, no problems there, its the drain signal that is not following the gate signal.

Yesterday i added to ALL THIS across each 6 turn primary a 28V zener in series with a schottky diode (cathode to cathode, zener anode to 12V) which got rid of many high peaks, but still some ringing and worse, MOSFET's switching when not activated by the gate signal (or by the opposite MOSFET gate signal/spike).

So going for a new setup,  regards Itsu
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5650 on: October 08, 2014, 11:10:11 AM »
Mag,

Thanks for comments on the purpose of the NTC5.

That's an advantage I have living in the UK. Next day delivery on almost any component.  :) Having said this, it does not include TV yokes that are now pricey, even on e-bay. Best bet is visit your nearest refuse centre and look for a big old TV. My refuse centre does not allow the public to take electronic items but a few bob dropped.... :) Better still try to get hold of one of those magic Russian yokes.  ;D

You commented back Jeg in post 5438:-
 "hi Jeg. Honestly i am not interested in Brutto drawings like he is the teacher for Ruslan. Don't you find it's silly constructing a step up secondary coil on yoke and connecting a bulb to it. These are the silly things which prevent people from progressing in this topic for so long"

Please explain why you think this is silly.

hi Hoppy,

Base on the way the yoke is setup (6-0-6 for 12volts /12-0-12 for 24volts) around 2.5 mm sq and at the secondary  which is consist of 3 turns(Which looks like 4mm sq) and 28 turns around 1.5 mm sq or 2 mm sq.

The output of 28turn
s is actually going to the bulb 3watt*...10watt which serve as an rough indicator if the yoke output voltage is at the optimal.The bulb is optional it's up to individual to leave it there or take it out once tuning is done.Then it is rectified to a full bridge rectifier which is made up of 4 x ultra fast diodes around 400...600volts.From Full-bridge it needs to be connected to the high voltage capacitor which i have mentioned around 350volts..450volts.This capacitor is the energy storage for the nanosecond pulser which will generate pulse in kv.
(Brutto drawing is incomplete version which is full of blocks diagram)
I have merely finished talking about 28turns which can winded higher to yield higher dc voltage maybe up from around 150volts to around 190volts to ultimately achieve maybe say 1.2kv...3kv to around 6kv or 7kv.

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Now 3 turns winding looks strange which is also connected to the 0.47uf 2000volts capacitor x 2 or x 4 in series to the 25 turns in the multilayer coil which a large outer coil hover over. :D
Only through actual testing of yoke core can reveal if these 3 turns coil is actually providing the eg:27khz(Following the pwm generator for yoke).Test needs to be conducted to verify this.This is likely but not confirmed.

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Put it simply the yoke core is serving 2 purpose to eventually provide high dc voltage and another eg:27khz.
But why the high voltage rating capacitor 2000volts.

This is not confirmed just theory so please do argue with me-
There was a word elastic mentioned somewhere in the pdf which is created base from  the speech of Akula Tesla coil tuning video.
I repeat don't argue with me as this part on is already long shot theory in my head-
The 27khz was send into earth has this elastic effect like a thin rubber band which pull then shot into earth and then return back to the yoke core with higher amplitude of 27khz via the 25,25 turns which the outer coil hover above it.Note this freq is just an example.

Selecting the 0.47uf capacitors x 2 or x 4 is base on one of the harmonics resonance of 27khz or 1.7Mhz.I don't know how this part is done honestly.


"A car looks very simple from the outside like the kapanadze device photo, but once you started to dig deeper to know what each an every component functionality is.
You will fnd that it is complicated for the novice like us"

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5651 on: October 08, 2014, 11:30:05 AM »
hi itsu,

May i ask can your "High voltage probe" detect nanosecond pulse base on old circuit which you have created some time ago.Eg:1.5volt version or etc.

The reason being my 40KV   x1000 probe is unable to see anything .No waveform detected for nanosecond.

If your HV probe is able to detect nanosecond can you provide me your probe model or spec.Thanks.

I have made a wrong move few months ago. :'(

Magpwr,

my 200MHz Owon scope with the Pintek HVP-15HF HV probe (scope set at x1000) is able to "see" my ~10V / 800ps pico-pulse allthough
somewhat distorted, see screenshot 1

The HV probe used is as said the Pintek HVP-15HF probe, see screenshot 2, found on Ebay.com.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5652 on: October 08, 2014, 11:53:20 AM »

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Now 3 turns winding looks strange which is also connected to the 0.47uf 2000volts capacitor x 2 or x 4 in series to the 25 turns in the multilayer coil which a large outer coil hover over. :D
Only through actual testing of yoke core can reveal if these 3 turns coil is actually providing the eg:27khz(Following the pwm generator for yoke).Test needs to be conducted to verify this.This is likely but not confirmed.

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Magpwr,

i did show here: http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg419394/#msg419394""  that it is
true that the 3 turn coil linking to the 2x 25 turns L3 via a 470nF cap. is causing a 27KHz resonance (sine wave) signal following
the TL494 frequency set to 27KHz.

Regards Itsu 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5653 on: October 08, 2014, 12:17:03 PM »
Magpwr,

my 200MHz Owon scope with the Pintek HVP-15HF HV probe (scope set at x1000) is able to "see" my ~10V / 800ps pico-pulse allthough
somewhat distorted, see screenshot 1

The HV probe used is as said the Pintek HVP-15HF probe, see screenshot 2, found on Ebay.com.

Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

Thanks.I will execute purchase without second thoughts this time.

The 40KV probe i previously purchased was around this price.It was suppose to be a one time purchase purchase for "probe". :'(

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Final findings for today-

Base on Ruslan video -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2akNL5k2xNA
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB4Bm1ygYMg

I have attached image to explain this time.

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« Reply #5654 on: October 08, 2014, 01:20:38 PM »
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Final findings for today-

Base on Ruslan video -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2akNL5k2xNA
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB4Bm1ygYMg

I have attached image to explain this time.

Magpwr,

Some remarks concerning those video's:

# you can hardly call that left (~17 turns) flat wire secondary a Tesla coil, no sign of any (underlaying) Tesla coil either, also no
connection to the right "grenade"coil combo.

# Neither this 17 turn "tesla coil" nor its primary is connected.

# The scope shows a 15.3Khz clean sine wave of 8Vpp coming from this red paralleled capacitor (2x 470nF = 940nF?).
Where does it come from / goes too?

# The other red capacitor (laying flat) and also presumable 470nF is connected in series with one of the white leads coming from
the 3 turn coil from the yoke and going to the Grenade coil (2x 25 turn L3?).

So adding more confusion then clearing up   :( , only the last item seem to fit with what we (i) got.

Regards itsu