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starcruiser

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5520 on: October 03, 2014, 08:42:56 PM »
It looks like those jumpers on the board are the isolation points for the HV DC side. the caps look to be in parallel. Pull on side of those jumpers and you could see what you are putting into the switching section.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5521 on: October 03, 2014, 09:40:57 PM »
I would think something like this diode and cap to maintain power on the chips would extend it beyond the end of the input?




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5522 on: October 03, 2014, 09:55:36 PM »
hi itsu,

It's hard for me to explain this part as i ever worked with TL494 but instead i'm using SG2525 or UCC3825 for more than 200khz.......


Magpwr,

thanks again for all this info.

From your Akula drawing i added the R2 and diode coming from the other MOSFET driver and sure enough, it
now closely match the red, blue and green signals from both this Akula and Ruslan diagram......., see screenshot 1.
Could it be that whomever draw this Ruslan diagram "forgot" this R2 and diode connection?

Just to be clear, i mean the R2 + diode as can be seen in the purple square below.


Regards Itsu


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5523 on: October 04, 2014, 01:12:25 AM »
For Russian speakers, I think Ruslan has commented on realstrannik that he would be willing
to use some group chat program to hold a group chat and answer people's questions.
Don't know if that will happen, but Ruslan suggested it recently, from what I could understand
using Google Translate anyway.  ;D Nick, do you speak some Russian? :)


hi void,

Last night i have seen the part in Russian forum where "he" will select certain capable Russian members for some online group chat.

It's best not to intervene as Russian members in forum do have difficulty in understanding his ou device.

"Let nature take it's course" :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5524 on: October 04, 2014, 01:19:11 AM »
I would think something like this diode and cap to maintain power on the chips would extend it beyond the end of the input?

hi Jeg,

I have seen circuits which are powered by signal using only 2 wire -1 signal 1 negative.

I don't recommend diode to be there because i like the input signal around 27khz to stay clean /less distortion at the input stage and it's better to use 7805 or 78L05 voltage regulator instead as already implemented in nano generator circuit.

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« Reply #5525 on: October 04, 2014, 01:20:49 AM »
hi void,
Last night i have seen the part in Russian forum where "he" will select certain capable Russian members for some online group chat.
It's best not to intervene as Russian members in forum also do have difficulty in understanding his ou device.
"Let nature take it's course" :D

It was just a comment on what Ruslan is apparently up to.
By no stretch of the imagination can this be construed as an intervention.  ;)
All the best...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5526 on: October 04, 2014, 01:29:42 AM »
hi Jeg,

I have seen circuits which are powered by signal using only 2 wire -1 signal 1 negative.

I don't recommend diode to be there because i like the input signal around 27khz to stay clean /less distortion at the input stage and it's better to use 7805 or 78L05 voltage regulator instead as already implemented in nano generator circuit.
still have to have a cap before the regulator then so you can keep as much of the low power signal that you can to delay the time... yes the diode reduces the voltage a bit, and it may cause thresholding issues... but really I'd think the pulse would be slighly after the 494 turns off... and this target configuration is really a short impulse signal requirement anyway, so that cap can go even smaller.  the other was triggering a resulting pulse train instead of an impulse. 


akula is keeping constant power on them... could add the 7805 ... but otherwise you definatly need the diode... otherwise any power stored will be drained when the 494 goes low ... or any where along there like on the mosfet driver,w hich is really good at making things go low, so the capacitance will just drain wasted .... need a diode. 7805 can also help.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5527 on: October 04, 2014, 02:13:52 AM »
Magpwr,

thanks again for all this info.

From your Akula drawing i added the R2 and diode coming from the other MOSFET driver and sure enough, it
now closely match the red, blue and green signals from both this Akula and Ruslan diagram......., see screenshot 1.
Could it be that whomever draw this Ruslan diagram "forgot" this R2 and diode connection?

Just to be clear, i mean the R2 + diode as can be seen in the purple square below.


Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

This addition of R2 + diode  might be the improvement  over the old design.

The duty for yellow signal seems to be more than 50%,unless it there to clearly show us the another 2 signal below.
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everyone,

If you take a look at Page 116 of the Russian forum.

In "hacksoft" posting- used a PIC10F200 circuit to generate waveform to the right.

Do observe the blue and the red waveform and nanopulse seems to appear between the blue and the red waveform
The final waveform is below in that picture.

I have seen this final waveform somewhere from Akula video maybe.I can't recall which video or which part of video or picture.

I am curious if the final waveform in sine-wave should logically look like this shown in forum once nano pulser is superimposed onto 27khz or tesla coil frequency.

Photo from page 116-
http://realstrannik.ru/media/kunena/attachments/5732/SchSmallBTGVer1.gif

Hopefully some can help find the waveform in Akula video where scope is used or picture so that i can be sure this is the final waveform after superimpose.

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« Reply #5528 on: October 04, 2014, 02:47:59 AM »
This addition of R2 + diode  might be the improvement  over the old design.

No, the diode and capacitor you are referring to was part of Akula's schematic for his
second self runner. The schematic you have been referring to is just a patched together
kludge incorporating different things that someone threw together which was not tested. 



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5529 on: October 04, 2014, 10:13:59 AM »
hi everyone,

This is my first official Tesla coil which i have created by hand using 20AWG on around 5cm diameter PVC pipe,coil height around 12inch/30cm.
It's hard to close all the air gap using 20awg.The choice of magnet wire thickness was selected after noticing the thickness of tesla coil at the end in Ruslan device.
Winding is completed in around 1.5hours without cutting pvc pipe to let it rest on my lap during winding.
Resonance test not done yet.

Next stage i would need to wind the multilayer coil on existing pvc pipe without "cutting it up fully somewhere in the middle ".

Latest update-Using L/C meter to measure tesla coil twice i got 1.069mH at this moment without the large outer coil in place.

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Related to my other project look what i have got.
2 High voltage Brand "Custom" capacitor-

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5530 on: October 04, 2014, 12:30:03 PM »
I would like to add few things:

1)The resonances are best calculated by wire length (it is same as wavelegth) and this method is also how Ruslan also used in his calculations and his "grenade" coil which was aimed for 4.8MHz resonant frequency
2) First you build "grenade" coil with 48CW+48CCW + 24CW+24CCW + 12CW+12CCW then try to find its resonance without earth ground attached as antenna and later when grounded
3) Depending on frequencies found you will need to build Tesla coil resonating on 1/3rd frequency of main coil
4)  the induction heater module should resonate in kHz range which is also low resonant harmonics of "grenade" coil
5) the control circuit module should switch on Tesla coil on positive peak of sine wave for very short cycle for generating high voltage spike and this spike should be filtered by choke for few nanoseconds spike length by choke between Tesla coil and antenna.


Hopefully this will help in tunning... :)

Cheers!

P.S> @itsu - your shotgun approach need to be corrected as Tesla coil and "grenade" coil do not match on resonant frequencies...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5531 on: October 04, 2014, 02:14:32 PM »
hi itsu,

It seems T-1000 is right.

I have failed to look into tesla coil resonance frequency of your current built while paying attention on the nanopulser section of yours.

Recalled 1.7Mhz...1.8Mhz mentioned by Akula in his Tesla coil tuning video which is the 3rd sub-harmonics of 4.8Mhz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

When T-1000 mentioned 1/3 of 4.8Mhz it is actually coming back to around 1.7Mhz for the Tesla coil.

To verify if this information is valid enough i have gone to this video of Ruslan -Rusla Kabulahov  first Akula duplication free energy device  (Merely to observe tesla coil length)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmE_yZjIBrA


I have attached the screenshot to show the estimate length of Tesla coil to justify the 1.7Mhz...1.8Mhz counting the additional connection to large outer coil at grenade coil.
Base on observation in a another video or photo of Ruslan device it is around 20AWG thickness for Tesla coil.

My tesla coil base on signal injection via 1k resistor is 1.3Mhz  the sub-harmonics this is base on existing inductance of 1.069mH.The amplitude would be lower at resonance  because of 1k resistor from signal generator for my case.
This tesla tuning for me is reserve for later stage once multi-layer coil is completed along with the outer coil.

For everyone else-It's always safe to start with more winding for tesla coil then reduce later .This is a better approach rather than rebuilding tesla coil which kills time.


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I have re-attach the harmonics and sub-harmonics calculator excel base calculator once more.For those whom do not have Microsoft office please down free excel viewer from Microsoft.



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« Reply #5532 on: October 04, 2014, 02:41:39 PM »
Working on the basis of 4.8MHz natural resonant frequency for the grenade coil and a coil former diameter of 50mm, I work out that the complete winding length is in the order of 31 metres. This is only around half of the wavelength which is 62.45 metres. Any comments on this? I have taken into consideration the increased diameter of the 24 and 12 turn coils.

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« Reply #5533 on: October 04, 2014, 02:57:46 PM »
In reality, when you wind the 25+25 coil over the grenade coil, the resonant point falls to a lower harmonic than 1.7-1.8MHz. Specifically mine from 1.8MHz with stand alone grenade coil, at the end went at 624KHz.

By the way, Nick before some days you mentioned about a 12+12 turns coil instead of the 25+25. Where did you see that please? After experimenting a lot around this 25+25, i think that 12+12 would be more appropriate to reach a total of 220V at the output.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5534 on: October 04, 2014, 03:09:35 PM »
Working on the basis of 4.8MHz natural resonant frequency for the grenade coil and a coil former diameter of 50mm, I work out that the complete winding length is in the order of 31 metres. This is only around half of the wavelength which is 62.45 metres. Any comments on this? I have taken into consideration the increased diameter of the 24 and 12 turn coils.

Hoppy, i found out that this grenade coil is very sensitive at 2nd 3rd and 5th order of subharmonics. 32 meters correspond at about 9.3MHz. Divide it by 2 and you find the first high subharmonic. Next sub is dividing by 3. Divide it by 5 and you find the 1.7-1.8 value. The same applies to each subharmonic. They are also obey to this 2nd 3rd and 5th rule. I don't know why is this, perhaps the shape of the coil. After winding my 25+25 coil my resonance fall down to the 3rd sub of 1.8 wich is the 624KHz.