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Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5220 on: September 22, 2014, 05:22:26 PM »
Will experimenters using only basic test equipment, ever really know and be able to demonstrate conclusively whether they have achieved true overunity.

That is trivial. Just make the device self running and put the device in a faraday cage if you want
to further eliminate the possibility of outside EM influences, although realistically you are not going
to power a bank of high wattage light bulbs from an external EM source unless you are right under or very, very
close to high voltage trunk power lines or really close to a high power radio station antenna, or very close by to a
very powerful tesla coil. Any decent wide bandwidth RF field strength meter would easily detect such super
strong EM fields existing around the device with the device switched off however, if that were the case. ;)



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5221 on: September 22, 2014, 05:26:26 PM »
  Some of us that have studied the Dr. Stiffler self running devices. There he talks about how to find the natural resonant coil frequency, as compared to the Spacial coherence factor, which is different. It is this Spacial Coherence resonant point (peak) that needs to be matched by the other coils, not to the first coils natural resonating frequency.
This idea may also be helpful to apply to the Akula/Ruslan devices.

  Each circuit will resonate at a different frequency. So, if you try to match the frequencies that Akula has obtained, or Ruslan,  it may not work the best for your device. As those specific frequencies may NOT be where to magic lies.

  Here (below) is a link to the latest Ruslan video, made 4 days ago.
I don't think that he has the Kacher output connected during the video, but I'm not sure about that. He also may have used a different type of wire for the Kacher's secondary wire this time, instead of the normal mag wire.
Hard to tell from his video though.

  Hopefully some of you can understand this Ruslan video better than I can.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVT-3hF29an4vZOz7nGOwg

  T-1000: What I still don't get is, how two different peaks (kacher and the induction heater frequency points) with two different frequencies, can match up on top of one another, when viewed on the scope. What's up with that...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5222 on: September 22, 2014, 05:28:54 PM »
That is trivial. Just make the device self running and put the device in a faraday cage if you want
to further eliminate the possibility of outside EM influences, although realistically you are not going
to power a bank of high wattage light bulbs from an external EM source unless you are right under or very, very
close to high voltage trunk power lines or really close to a high power radio station antenna, or very close by to a
very powerful tesla coil. Any decent wide bandwidth RF field strength meter would easily detect such super
strong EM fields existing around the device with the device switched off however, if that were the case. ;)

I look forward to seeing this demonstration once a replication has been achieved.  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5223 on: September 22, 2014, 05:38:10 PM »
hi Void,

Try the same with the 12volts 7AH or less with 220volts 1000watt or 1500watt inverter see if that can even power on with those bulb connected.If you know what i am trying to say.


Can you light an LED directly from a 1.5V battery?

Can you light an LED indirectly from a 1.5V battery?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5224 on: September 22, 2014, 05:39:59 PM »
You can choose to believe in fake but i beg to differ on selected device i choose to replicate.Any failure would be my lost anyway.
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My experience-if you can't handle multiple loses and failures then it's unlikely you would succeed in life.Just take that weak feeling and throw it out of the window. :D

Hi Magpwr. You seem to interpret people pointing out observations such as no proper power measurements
being done as an attempt to dissuade you from experimenting. That is not the case at all.
I was merely making an observation. I have not suggested I 'believe the device is fake'.  ;)
 I just observed that in the video I saw no proper power measurements were done.
Something you may not be aware of is you can make various types of light bulbs glow quite brightly by applying
high voltage high frequency pulses to the light bulbs, but the average power may not be very high.
The down side is the light bulbs will likely burn out much more quickly than if powered as designed.
In my own experience, light bulb brightness is not a reliable indicator of power consumption.
Proper power measurements need to be done, or make the device self running.
This is based on a lot of experimenting. Take my observations for what you will. :)



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5225 on: September 22, 2014, 05:47:02 PM »
That is trivial. Just make the device self running and put the device in a faraday cage if you want
to further eliminate the possibility of outside EM influences, although realistically you are not going
to power a bank of high wattage light bulbs from an external EM source unless you are right under or very, very
close to high voltage trunk power lines or really close to a high power radio station antenna, or very close by to a
very powerful tesla coil. Any decent wide bandwidth RF field strength meter would easily detect such super
strong EM fields existing around the device with the device switched off however, if that were the case. ;)

hi Void,

There was this simple experiment which was conducted in USA i think around 70 ..80 years ago.The photo was black and white. :D

They surrounded a small transmitter station with electrical cable couple of turns it was able to light a bulb i think nearly 100watt bulb dimly.

What you have mentioned is just "an assumption" at the moment.Something which isn't proven yet although it is possible, in theory which may work on how the fake was done. :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5226 on: September 22, 2014, 05:54:34 PM »
I look forward to seeing this demonstration once a replication has been achieved.  ;)

No video could ever convince anyone who strongly believes that over unity is impossible.
Any video could potentially be faked. This has already been discussed and it is obvious anyway. 
All I am personally interested in is trying to investigate over unity for myself. I am not interested in
trying to change the mind or beliefs of anyone else. People can and will believe as they are inclined to.  ;)
I hold no beliefs about such things, but I am personally open minded and curious enough to
be interested in experimenting in this area. Just a personal inclination. Everyone is free to do as they please
in this regard.





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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5227 on: September 22, 2014, 05:57:31 PM »
No video could ever convince anyone who strongly believes that over unity is impossible.
Any video could potentially be faked. This has already been discussed and it is obvious anyway. 
All I am personally interested in is trying to investigate over unity for myself. I am not interested in
trying to change the mind or beliefs of anyone else. People can and will believe as they are inclined to.  ;)
I hold no beliefs about such things, but I am personally open minded and curious enough to
be interested in experimenting in this area. Just a personal inclination. Everyone is free to do as they please
in this regard.

Agreed.  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5228 on: September 22, 2014, 05:58:21 PM »
What you have mentioned is just "an assumption" at the moment.Something which isn't proven yet although it is possible, in theory which may work on how the fake was done. :D

Sorry magpwr. You seem to be misunderstanding much of what I saying, and ascribing
various motivations to my words which are not there at all. I think what I was saying was pretty clear
and also well established however.  ;)


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5229 on: September 22, 2014, 06:04:59 PM »
  T-1000: What I still don't get is, how two different peaks (kacher and the induction heater frequency points) with two different frequencies, can match up on top of one another, when viewed on the scope. What's up with that...

the HV section (Tesla/kacher) is triggered on the peaks of the sine-wave (or near the peaks), this can be done with a one-shot multi-vibrator made up from a 555 timer that triggers the TC driver. you would use the single turn coil on a torrid with a few more turns (40) that feeds back to a zener diode to clip the incoming to say 5v or so and couple the signal with a capacitor to eliminate any DC component prior to the diodes that feed the one shot trigger ckt.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5230 on: September 22, 2014, 06:09:33 PM »
  It has been the case for me that when using CFL bulbs, or LED bulbs (with their internal circuitry ungutted), on an Exciter/Kacher crt, that they don't last long at all. Their internal circuits burn out, almost immediately, sometimes, but it also depends on which bulbs, as the higher output ones can last longer.
  Even if a CFL bulb is gutted, their bulbs will still build up carbon inside the bulb, if connected directly to the bulbs, and eventually light with less brightness.
This can also be the case when using these types of higher voltage induction heater type of devices (with normal induction cookers ) when using the incandescent bulbs or halogen bulbs, over time,

  Hoppy: Good to see you back.
  Have you ever seen anyone able to light SEVERAL hundred watt incandescent bulbs from any external man made power sources, such as from radio frequencies, etz...     NO?
  TK said that he can light a LED bulb that way...  WoW!  Ha! Ha!
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5231 on: September 22, 2014, 06:17:38 PM »
 
  Hoppy: Good to see you back.
  Have you ever seen anyone able to light SEVERAL hundred watt incandescent bulbs from any external man made power sources, such as from radio frequencies, etz...     NO?
  TK said that he can light a LED bulb that way...  WoW!  Ha! Ha!
 

I've seen a couple of 60W flouro's powered brightly from overhead grid lines. Oh yes its possible but not the method Akula or Roman uses IMO.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5232 on: September 22, 2014, 06:20:36 PM »
hi starcruiser,

It is always wise to start with basic coil layout without the additional coil at this moment reason being we need to know in the initial stage "the kind of waveform we are required to see"
in the mhz and in the khz range.The waveform at 1.8mhz and 27khz which we need to see was revealed in the video.

But in your DIY  tesla coil or the one which can resemble the tesla coil located on the left side of Ruslan device(refer to my previous attachment) as separate module would have another 2 frequency point which is unique to your coil.
Just download that very important video and study the required waveform that you should see for those 2 points mhz,khz.


"In the older video all the coils was combined together as multi layer with thick tesla coil as first layer which produce <1kw power.But Akula did mentioned about stability issue for the old device."


@magpwr,
The multi-resonant points is what I was referring to, IMO you need to understand the resonant point of the primary coil on the TC then the resonant point on the Secondary, then re-check them once the coils are assembled as the resonant points change due to coil loading (from the Primary/secondary coils).

I see the diagram using the ferrite rod on the TC secondary output that feeds the Primary/antenna as the adjustment (inductor) to tweak the antenna SWR and coupling to the air core coil.

I also think it is important to check all coils inductance and natural resonance and record this info as you go. As far as waveform, a TC output should be sinusoidal for the most part since the secondary is resonating, the harmonic relationship is important IMPO to this device. We need to treat this as a RF device and tune it and treat it accordingly.

This is why I totally agree with you that if you want to play with this device the basic test equipment is required, Oscilloscopes, DVM's Signal generators, etc... otherwise how can you tell where you are at? Math only takes you so far in this as real world does have a habit of changing things on you.

We all have our ways of doing things to get to the same goal while not doing the same steps in the same order.

respect,

Carl

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5233 on: September 22, 2014, 06:21:27 PM »
  How 'bout 2000 watts of incandescent bulbs?  Yes?

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« Reply #5234 on: September 22, 2014, 06:25:04 PM »
Please do not take the use of the word YOU meaning magpwr, but a general use of the word meaning others.