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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5205 on: September 21, 2014, 05:38:02 PM »
Is it possible to attach the link of this specific akula's video please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

  Ruslan and Akula are now using very different set ups.

They both are using same thing just different mods for high voltage nanosecond and automatic resonance frequency tuning circuits .... ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5206 on: September 21, 2014, 06:46:32 PM »
  The big white coil is not what is being used in the schematic, or on the device.
The tesla coil is the one with the magnet wire, going to the ferrite rod, then to the thick coil antenna. Tesla coil primary is the 5 to 6 turn thick primary with the oscillator connection in the center of it.
 I hope that was what you were wondering about.

  Ruslan and Akula are now using very different set ups.  I would personally go with Ruslan's way of doing it, as it's simpler, and still can produce about 2.3kw.
 The difficult part of their circuitry is the duty cycle/frequency modulator circuits.
I wish that that those units could just be purchased, instead.

Hi nickz,

It's good news we can ignore Akula video and his tesla coil which was meant for older version of his device i guess. ;D

Pwm circuit based on 3825 can be assembled for less than 10 dollars.
Operating a pwm circuit is simple always set duty cycle to zero before powering on before connecting to mosfet.
But scope is needed since high freq which we cant hear.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5207 on: September 21, 2014, 07:30:38 PM »
Hi,

I am unable to co-relate thick tesla coil winding with this circuit diagram in the video.

Do anyone know where tesla coil with thick wire belong to if compared with winding shown in circuit diagram.
There isn't a clear indication which is the tesla coil in the drawing.
Although it seems obvious this tesla coil layer need to be the first layer,if i am right to mention.
This thick tesla coil was also seen as standing pvc pipe in older video before the winding is completed.

Can anyone please advise  where is this thick  tesla coil in circuit diagram as seen in this video.

We need fit all the missing puzzle together with no doubts before even thinking of replication.

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In the meantime i am waiting for expensive capacitor and air coil to arrive for don smith.
Valuable time is lost yet again due to long delivery time.
That means tick tesla coil, tick secomndary or primary?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5208 on: September 22, 2014, 09:44:48 AM »
That means tick tesla coil, tick secomndary or primary?

Hi MenofFather and everyone(whom is not skeptic about overunity),

What i am trying to say is Akula is now showing how he is doing the tuning on the tesla coil which is using electrical wire.
The video actually needs to be related to the older device.The device which was done outdoor on the table with one pvc pipe which is placed in standing position.There is a actual 220volt inverter along with yoke core for this version.If i recall correctly this device was the 700 or 750watt version.

This is only half the setup or half the story.I will explain more below.
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This is my latest findings based on Ruslan device setup using his video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j7Y6sBnGV8&list=UUwVT-3hF29an4vZOz7nGOwg

Please refer to attachment-

This is my 1st run of reverse engineering the Ruslan coil setup as attached without the deeper level of verification done yet.

MenofFather we need your help to translate Akula video as shown below in details because it is the left coil which i called "the thick Tesla coil" to simplify remembering and identifying.
This is important piece of the puzzle revealed by Akula which is using the Earth. :D :D :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

Base on the video i recall someone mentioned it the 3rd harmonics which was being used to tune the thick tesla coil.
MenofFather please help us translate.I am still little lost since i don't understand Russian to understand what Akula is saying.
Please tell me what Akula is telling to get this tuning right or what kind of waveform we need to see.Please use the above video and capture for me the correct waveform which we need to see.
 
Base on attachment-
Everyone just remember at the left side of the coil(Thick tesla coil) is the transmitter portion and the right hand side of the device is the receiver portion which is the multi-layer coil(eg:48,48,24,24,12,12).

This my Strategy which is to find how coil is wound first before even thinking of the electronic circuit.We got the tuning the left\tesla coil video by Akula in Russian which needs to be
professionally translated to English so that i can decode\understand better which can be replicated using the provided circuit by Ruslan or Akula to generate the required waveform from the left side\thick tesla coil which is the obvious magnifying transmitter.

The center connecting wire which i called the transmitting and receiving antenna is a straight cable this time but notice carefully the outer coil(both large looking coil which consist of few turns) for the left coil and the multi coil located at the right side of attachment is connected in cw,ccw formation for the 2 outer coils.

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« Reply #5209 on: September 22, 2014, 03:14:41 PM »
@magpwr,

Can we determine the output of the kacher/telsa coil, voltage wise? is it only a few thousand volts? or is it 10's of thousands? I think it might be less than 10k, thus would a simple HV source be enough to create an impulse generator?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5210 on: September 22, 2014, 03:49:25 PM »
   Magpwr:
   It would also be a good idea to study Ruslan's latest video device, instead.
As it's quite different than the previous versions.  And the air coils on it are also connected to the yoke coils in a very different way.
   Ruslan's newest crt is now replicating the Akula air coil set up including the ferrite rod, (unlike the image shown above). His yoke's secondary coil (20 plus turn coil) is connected to the bigger 48,48 24, 24, output air coil, not to the 12,12 turn coils, as he had done previously. That's the way that I'm doing it. As there is much more output power when connecting the 20 plus turn secondary yoke coil to the big air coil, instead of to the 12,12 turn air coil.
  I will use the thick 3 turn yoke secondary coil's output, through a rectifier/capacitor, to provide the 12-24 DC voltage input for the Kacher circuit.
  What I'm still not certain about yet, is where and how the feed back path is connected and working. But first I want to get the new circuit finished for the
induction heater part of it. I will still use the Mazilli crt for that, for now, but a totally new one this time, including the 18v 5w zeners, and UF series cross-over diodes, connected to a brand new 12v 7ah battery.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5211 on: September 22, 2014, 03:56:24 PM »
@magpwr,

Can we determine the output of the kacher/telsa coil, voltage wise? is it only a few thousand volts? or is it 10's of thousands? I think it might be less than 10k, thus would a simple HV source be enough to create an impulse generator?

hi Starcruiser,

I unable to advise at this moment.

I prefer to take things one step at a time slowly and prefer to be 100% surely.

I am finding this video very very interesting about getting 2 resonance point from Akula tesla coil (Thick wire)

But i think i have just cracked this Akula tesla coil video which i have no understanding in Russian language.I am just using just pure instinct and i should be nearly 100% right this time.  :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

Base on video there is 2 resonance point (Just take a look at the drawing on the paper signal generator and scope both probes connected together and going into one end of thick tesla coil.The other end of tesla coil needs to be connected to earth(Important).This stage is very very important to determine the resonance points.Before even coming up with the necessary circuit to replicate the signal\frequency.

1)1.8Mhz which is provided by the transistor KT805  (Not mosfet or igbt).It is in the scope nanosecond range.

2)Another resonance point is the 27khz .
   This is provided by the Yoke core which is also a high voltage and frequency "27khz" generator.For this tesla coil in video yoke core needs to be driven at "27khz" or following the resonance point of the thick tesla coil in the khz range.


Basically this is the heart of the ou device which was revealed by Akula.


Basic fact-
This video would only make sense to those whom is "open minded or willing to try out of the box approach, something which was not taught in school",
electronics experience needed, own a scope,signal generator,diy a thick tesla coil. :D



MenofFather is there anything else i might have left out from this Akula video?

At this moment i have not studied the circuit hard enough to find out about the sync point.The last stage and the hardest stage to understand which can only happen provided if i am interested to build this device which would not happen after completing a "successful" Don smith China replication which was also reverse engineered visually. :D :D :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5212 on: September 22, 2014, 04:26:11 PM »
@magpwr,

I understand the need to "sync" the coils frequencies. the 1.8Mhz versus the 27khz is not an even harmonic (not evenly divisible), you are around 66.666 (yes this was 6's across the board). one of them will need to be tweaked I would think.

But I am in full agreement that the coils should be swept and the resonant point frequencies noted. I did this when building my Tesla Coils, (solid state versions).

I think the real challenge for some will be to match the various coils (freq wise) to each other at a harmonic. I think this needs to be done in stages as you mentioned to ensure proper operation.

I think the air-core coil would/should be built first and then you would back into the numbers for the HV section since this section might be easier to adjust. I would think we need to watch the harmonic we are trying to hit as the power will fall off as the harmonic spread increases. I do recall from somewhere that the 13th harmonic will provide more power than the 11th or 14th etc... this is in sound, so it might be applicable to this.

Also with multi-layer coils they will interact with each other (you probably know this) and affect their inductance when adjacent to other coils versus a bare coil (no other coils near it). Thus my reasoning for the multi-layer first and work backwards to make the HV section and PSU match harmonically, as you can test the individual coils in the Air Core coil assembly and gather your test data and not worry about the drift caused by adding coils.

What are your thoughts?

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« Reply #5213 on: September 22, 2014, 04:29:49 PM »
Hi magpwr. You seem to have some things confused. As has been pointed out, Akula was talking about
the bifilar output coil (multi layer coil) in his video, and how he matches the tuning of the kacher/tesla coil to the bifilar output
coil. Both of Akula's first two devices seem to work on the same principle, as do Ruslan's devices. All indications are that
Akula started out by trying to duplicate Daly's device and made a few changes of his own, and Ruslan then later started
out by trying to duplicate Akula's devices and also based his devices on Daly's device and info, and Ruslan has been making some changes
of his own from there. All indications are that it is all the same principle, with just variations in implementation; if these
devices really do work as claimed, that is.

The circuit concept is basically an inverter driver driving an output coil, and the output coil assembly is also subjected to high
voltage pulses or a high voltage field in some manner. The earth ground connection is also a common element of this approach.
The questions for replicating are how to find the right coil tunings and frequencies and waveform synchronization, and of course
all the specifics of the coil arrangements. The approach I am taking right now is just doing basic experiments with this whole
approach to see if I can find a basic configuration that causes over unity results. Trying to decipher the devices by looking at photos
and videos and sifting through all the various bits of info and supposed schematics that various people are posting seems a fair bit
confusing at best. Not speaking Russian makes it even much tougher to try to decipher all the videos and info
floating around in Russian. ;)  Both Akula and Ruslan have probably hid some aspects of their devices and may well have
done a few things to try to keep people off the track as well. Presumably if these devices really do work, then
it should be possible for others to figure it out eventually, if Daly, Akula and Ruslan really did find ways to make this work.
All the best...


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« Reply #5214 on: September 22, 2014, 04:36:37 PM »
The last stage and the hardest stage to understand which can only happen provided if i am interested to build this device which would not happen after completing a "successful" Don smith China replication which was also reverse engineered visually. :D :D :D

Magpwr, something to consider. The so called China Don Smith replication video showed no power measurements at all (that I saw anyway).
Without proper power measurements there is no way to tell if the output power exceeded the input power.
Just looking at some light bulbs lighting up tells you nothing about input power versus output power.
If the China guy was getting overunity, then why not post up a follow up video showing a self running device?
It should not be that difficult if you really have significantly more power out than power in. Think about it. ;)
Has this guy posted a follow up video showing a self running device?


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« Reply #5215 on: September 22, 2014, 04:42:18 PM »
I will add my few thoughts:

The understanding how much energy is lost or gained due standing wave transfer and how standing wave receiver works might give some light. The Kapanadze style coil (48+24+12 canceling coils) have something to do with that field and also the introduced high voltage spikes to low frequency peaks already have long history in experiments of showing power input decrease while increasing output. Also the nuclear resonance have play there too and the electrons are splitted out from orbits around atoms are put into circuit then from the large area such as earth ground which are electrostatic source to replace missing electrons in nucleus after shocks.

Obviously it is long road of understanding to any experimenter with lots of failed circuits and knowledge gained... ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5216 on: September 22, 2014, 04:46:26 PM »
@magpwr,

I understand the need to "sync" the coils frequencies. the 1.8Mhz versus the 27khz is not an even harmonic (not evenly divisible), you are around 66.666 (yes this was 6's across the board). one of them will need to be tweaked I would think.

But I am in full agreement that the coils should be swept and the resonant point frequencies noted. I did this when building my Tesla Coils, (solid state versions).

I think the real challenge for some will be to match the various coils (freq wise) to each other at a harmonic. I think this needs to be done in stages as you mentioned to ensure proper operation.

I think the air-core coil would/should be built first and then you would back into the numbers for the HV section since this section might be easier to adjust. I would think we need to watch the harmonic we are trying to hit as the power will fall off as the harmonic spread increases. I do recall from somewhere that the 13th harmonic will provide more power than the 11th or 14th etc... this is in sound, so it might be applicable to this.

Also with multi-layer coils they will interact with each other (you probably know this) and affect their inductance when adjacent to other coils versus a bare coil (no other coils near it). Thus my reasoning for the multi-layer first and work backwards to make the HV section and PSU match harmonically, as you can test the individual coils in the Air Core coil assembly and gather your test data and not worry about the drift caused by adding coils.

What are your thoughts?

hi starcruiser,

It is always wise to start with basic coil layout without the additional coil at this moment reason being we need to know in the initial stage "the kind of waveform we are required to see"
in the mhz and in the khz range.The waveform at 1.8mhz and 27khz which we need to see was revealed in the video.

But in your DIY  tesla coil or the one which can resemble the tesla coil located on the left side of Ruslan device(refer to my previous attachment) as separate module would have another 2 frequency point which is unique to your coil.
Just download that very important video and study the required waveform that you should see for those 2 points mhz,khz.


"In the older video all the coils was combined together as multi layer with thick tesla coil as first layer which produce <1kw power.But Akula did mentioned about stability issue for the old device."





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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5217 on: September 22, 2014, 04:48:31 PM »
I will add my few thoughts:

The understanding how much energy is lost or gained due standing wave transfer and how standing wave receiver works might give some light. The Kapanadze style coil (48+24+12 canceling coils) have something to do with that field and also the introduced high voltage spikes to low frequency peaks already have long history in experiments of showing power input decrease while increasing output. Also the nuclear resonance have play there too and the electrons are splitted out from orbits around atoms are put into circuit then from the large area such as earth ground which are electrostatic source to replace missing electrons in nucleus after shocks.

Obviously it is long road of understanding to any experimenter with lots of failed circuits and knowledge gained... ;)

Not to mention various blown components and equipment when experimenting with high voltage circuits. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5218 on: September 22, 2014, 05:03:14 PM »
I will add my few thoughts:

The understanding how much energy is lost or gained due standing wave transfer and how standing wave receiver works might give some light. The Kapanadze style coil (48+24+12 canceling coils) have something to do with that field and also the introduced high voltage spikes to low frequency peaks already have long history in experiments of showing power input decrease while increasing output.

Or more than likely an input current decrease with increased output voltage being taken as a real power increase.  ;)

Will experimenters using only basic test equipment, ever really know and be able to demonstrate conclusively whether they have achieved true overunity.

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« Reply #5219 on: September 22, 2014, 05:03:25 PM »
Magpwr, something to consider. The so called China Don Smith replication showed no power measurements at all.
Without proper power measurements there is no way to tell if the output power exceeded the input power.
Just looking at some light bulbs lighting up tells you nothing about input power versus output power.
If the China guy was getting overunity, then why not post up a follow up video showing a self running device?
It should not be that difficult if you really have significantly more power out than power in. Think about it. ;)
Has this guy posted a follow up video showing a self running device?

hi Void,

Yes you are right no measurement must be faked in all case.But think again the 12volts 7AH or less is able to power the 100watt x i think 16 bulbs.

The brightness of bulb is actually controlled by the variable high voltage generator 500volts...1600volts(120uf 450volts x 4 caps in series).If you take a hard look at the video and the forum.

I built variable HV supply 150volts-1600volts  using less parts with more power (270uf 450volts x 4 in series).The HV stage is 30AWG solid silver coated on oxygen free high conductivity copper wire which out perform my 26awg copper which i bought the bundle on the cheap <$15 from ebay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MknH42t0IGw


Try the same with the 12volts 7AH or less with 220volts 1000watt or 1500watt inverter see if that can even power on with those bulb connected.If you know what i am trying to say.

I do own a pure sine wave  50hz<1% tolerance 1500watt inverter by  the way with fully charged 12volts 21AH battery just won't even power on (error light on)with 1000watt halogen bulb.1000watt/12volts=83Amps(Not taken 88% inverter efficiency into account)


You can choose to believe in fake but i beg to differ on selected device i choose to replicate.Any failure would be my lost anyway.

I did not mentioned something about this Don Smith China.I'm just suspecting this is a gov funded project or some high level institute funded project.
Just think about it They are using $40USD Cree x 6 and convert into their money.I have not even started calculation with other components  into their currency yet.
Oh boy-You must have initially thought this is just some cheap prank video from China right.
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My experience-if you can't handle multiple loses and failures then it's unlikely you would succeed in life.Just take that weak feeling and throw it out of the window. :D