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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11963528 times)

MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4380 on: June 20, 2014, 09:48:50 PM »
"cw. . .. . . . . . .. . . . .... . . cw                               |. . .. .. ... . . . . . . . .. . ..|  ccw. . . . . . .  .. .ccw             |.. . . . . . .. . . |  ccw.. . . .. ccw   |. .. .. ."
That right, but I not garante, that you get overunity with that schematic.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4381 on: June 20, 2014, 11:28:38 PM »
this project looks really good, but does any one have any details on any of the coil measurements coil winding details and positioning and spacing and wire diameter and inductance ?

All the best Alien Grey

этот проект выглядит очень хорошо, но одно есть какие-либо подробности по любой из катушки Measurments обмотки катушки детали и позиционирование и расстояние и диаметр Вие и индуктивность?

Все самое лучшее Чужой Серый

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4382 on: June 20, 2014, 11:31:47 PM »
this project looks really good, but does any one have any details on any of the coil measurements coil winding details and positioning and spacing and wire diameter and inductance ?

All the best Alien Grey

этот проект выглядит очень хорошо, но одно есть какие-либо подробности по любой из катушки Measurments обмотки катушки детали и позиционирование и расстояние и диаметр Вие и индуктивность?

Все самое лучшее Чужой Серый


Define 'this project' this thread has actually covered a lot of aspects in various directions...   the thread itself?  Read the first 2 pages


and this is original author's notes...  http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/edward_lee/

d3x0r

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4383 on: June 20, 2014, 11:32:34 PM »
"cw. . .. . . . . . .. . . . .... . . cw                               |. . .. .. ... . . . . . . . .. . ..|  ccw. . . . . . .  .. .ccw             |.. . . . . . .. . . |  ccw.. . . .. ccw   |. .. .. ."
That right, but I not garante, that you get overunity with that schematic.
Well thanx; but that part I was mostly certain of :)  What about all the other things ending with a ?  ?


Okay I see; there's a difference between the '50 winds' total and '48 winds each' ... so the outside is 25 and 25, which makes sense to make it fit...


any opinion on the direction cw or ccw of the kacher?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4384 on: June 21, 2014, 12:41:57 AM »
   I've also tried to analyze Akula's second video device from the resent uploaded pictures and schematic. Not easy... As we can't see inside of the boxes, so we don't know just exactly what is connected to what. Or even if the schematic is correct. "Almost correct"  is like almost pregnant. And if only one small detail is missing or hidden, the thing won't work.
   I do see many similarities with these Dally/Akula/ Ruslan/ etz... type of circuits, and what Geofusion had mentioned and had shown us with his easy to follow hand drawn diagrams. That is what we really need to have, to do this Akula replication or similar types of circuits, right. An easy to follow proven diagram for dummies,  like me.  Or it's back to the wild goose chase...
I have already spent months (or years) chasing wild geese. So, have several others, but to no avail.
  In any case, what I see in all these self running circuits is a flip-flop mosfet driven circuit, along with an Exciter (kacher) circuit. Which are heterodyning together to form a third output wave source which is driving incandescent bulbs.
 The way that Geo did it may be very close to what is really needed, although he did not use the additional Exciter circuit along with his RMG coils and device, YET. Or, he is not showing any further improvements, anymore, and may possibly have it working by now. 
  So, there may be many ways to go about this, but it seems that unless we use two separate pulse circuits, we are NOT going to get anywhere with this, other than just an simple inverter device.    Yes?  No???

  It would be best to focus our attention on just one proven circuit (like the Akula 1500 watt circuit) as that one has been confirmed as authentic. And to work together on this crt, if possible.  Too much to ask,   I know.  But, that is what some of us here did with the first Akula circuit, before all the comments of fakery and such. Which did not help much at all, and possible was in part responsible for taking the wind out of our sails. 
But, the wind is blowing, once again.  For those that put their sails up.

   NickZ
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4385 on: June 21, 2014, 01:24:21 AM »
   I've also tried to analyze Akula's second video device from the resent uploaded pictures and schematic. Not easy... As we can't see inside of the boxes, so we don't know just exactly what is connected to what. Or even if the schematic is correct. "Almost correct"  is like almost pregnant. And if only one small detail is missing or hidden, the thing won't work.
   I do see many similarities with these Dally/Akula/ Ruslan/ etz... type of circuits, and what Geofusion had mentioned and had shown us with his easy to follow hand drawn diagrams. That is what we really need to have, to do this Akula replication or similar types of circuits, right. An easy to follow proven diagram for dummies,  like me.  Or it's back to the wild goose chase...
I have already spent months (or years) chasing wild geese. So, have several others, but to no avail.
  In any case, what I see in all these self running circuits is a flip-flop mosfet driven circuit, along with an Exciter (kacher) circuit. Which are heterodyning together to form a third output wave source which is driving incandescent bulbs.
 The way that Geo did it may be very close to what is really needed, although he did not use the additional Exciter circuit along with his RMG coils and device, YET. Or, he is not showing any further improvements, anymore, and may possibly have it working by now. 
  So, there may be many ways to go about this, but it seems that unless we use two separate pulse circuits, we are NOT going to get anywhere with this, other than just an simple inverter device.    Yes?  No???

  It would be best to focus our attention on just one proven circuit (like the Akula 1500 watt circuit) as that one has been confirmed as authentic. And to work together on this crt, if possible.  Too much to ask,   I know.  But, that is what some of us here did with the first Akula circuit, before all the comments of fakery and such. Which did not help much at all, and possible was in part responsible for taking the wind out of our sails. 
But, the wind is blowing, once again.  For those that put their sails up.

   NickZ
 

You cannot see inside of the boxes...
Why would a self-respecting hobbyist and a developer of OU circuit publish so little about his work and purposely leave out some important details that is needed to replicate the circuit?

To keep the OU community preoccupied and keep it from self-organizing and critically thinking about all OU devices and false OU devices out there on the Internet.

If I built a successful OU, every screw would have been documented, especially if I cannot derive a physics theory of why it works.

CONCLUSION:
Somebody is fooling you. Someone is paid to fool you professionally.

+You have to translate this BS from Russian.
I am sorry.

d3x0r

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4386 on: June 21, 2014, 01:56:30 AM »
In that last schematic what is the big bold "F1" Ф1  ?  Frequency? 
ti seems to be a choke-transformer... but no specifications... if I use a 1:1 toroid transformer of I dunno 100-200 uH is good maybe?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4387 on: June 21, 2014, 03:24:33 AM »
In that last schematic what is the big bold "F1" Ф1  ?  Frequency? 
ti seems to be a choke-transformer... but no specifications... if I use a 1:1 toroid transformer of I dunno 100-200 uH is good maybe?


The answer is (probably) Yes it is (F)requency.  That choke now has a frequency which affects the performance of the Kacher significantly. 
Previously, with just raw power applied to the drive, it would fluctuate wildly and draw a lot of power, but I could replace the secondary with almost any coil of high enough inductance and have a voltage which can light a flourescent ambiently....
However, after adding the choke, and the few caps, now only the one coil that I have works.  THe others oscillate, but they do not generate a very high voltage, some better than others, but there is a harmonic in the oscillation of this choke that if not matched diminishes output greatly.
but, the current draw is much more limited; even on the one coil that produces output, instead of 500-600mA it's now only 200-220mA.


(previously I did have to add some diodes also, or the meters on my power supply both went to 1.(blankblank) which looks more overflow/error.. )

So basically; yes, that scheme is useless. « Reply #4370 on: June 19, 2014, 08:37:36 PM »


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4388 on: June 21, 2014, 05:10:42 AM »
Nick, did you get my PM? ???

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4389 on: June 21, 2014, 07:32:15 AM »
   Tektron:
   Yes, sorry for not replying sooner.  I have just now answered your PM.
   Thanks for your help.
    Much appreciated!
                                   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4390 on: June 21, 2014, 11:00:54 AM »


  It would be best to focus our attention on just one proven circuit (like the Akula 1500 watt circuit) as that one has been confirmed as authentic. And to work together on this crt, if possible.  Too much to ask,   I know.  But, that is what some of us here did with the first Akula circuit, before all the comments of fakery and such. Which did not help much at all, and possible was in part responsible for taking the wind out of our sails. 
But, the wind is blowing, once again.  For those that put their sails up.

   NickZ
 

 ??? Akula 1500 watt circuit confirmed authentic?? That's news to me Nick! I cetainly don't feel a fair wind blowing for the motivation to continue replication of Akula's devices using his incomplete and misleading circuit schematics.

MenofFather

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4391 on: June 21, 2014, 11:36:33 AM »
Well thanx; but that part I was mostly certain of :)  What about all the other things ending with a ?  ?


Okay I see; there's a difference between the '50 winds' total and '48 winds each' ... so the outside is 25 and 25, which makes sense to make it fit...


any opinion on the direction cw or ccw of the kacher?
Kacher secondary seems wound in same direction like inductor. If for you kacher not works, then just replase ends of inductor.
Were conected red winding on yoke I don't know if you about this.
I some you questions not  understand. I can say, that here not 48 turns, but 56 turns and other is not corect turns of layers in schematic.
How much turns secondary of kacher have I not know, but think, that about 500-1000 turns. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4392 on: June 21, 2014, 11:50:46 AM »
In that last schematic what is the big bold "F1" Ф1  ?  Frequency? 
ti seems to be a choke-transformer... but no specifications... if I use a 1:1 toroid transformer of I dunno 100-200 uH is good maybe?
Here is filter, it not nessary in general. :)

d3x0r

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4393 on: June 21, 2014, 12:00:21 PM »
Kacher secondary seems wound in same direction like inductor. If for you kacher not works, then just replase ends of inductor.
Were conected red winding on yoke I don't know if you about this.
I some you questions not  understand. I can say, that here not 48 turns, but 56 turns and other is not corect turns of layers in schematic.
How much turns secondary of kacher have I not know, but think, that about 500-1000 turns. :)
Schematic says 200... but hard to know... I have coils with 1000 (28 gauge) that work well... before applying the filter the new one that was only 200+(24 gauge) and
But; the induktor loops back on the right side so it looks backwards to the kacher secondary... some of these things are really hard to see... where you should be able to see it in the highres pictures it ends up being blocked by other things


could wish for a shot through the tube


Edit: I see you labeld parts 'inducter' and 'antenna' ... I see nothing on the schematic that is 'antenna' what you labeld as inducter is actually the driver of the kacher.


Edit2: ran the kacher without filter, with indukotr attached, noted the frequency... made another filter with fewer windings... started at half, ended up at 1/3 the windings so the frequency then matched the kacher... now works.  it's about a x200 coil  (4v input, 800V p-p, 14V input, 2800V p-p output... ) The filter does help current draw. 


Question though; is there a convention for CW and CCW notation?  Is that looking at how the wire is coming off of the coil? or going into a coil? 
Is the kacher HV coil the same as the first layer? or the outer layers?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4394 on: June 21, 2014, 02:13:36 PM »
    It would be best to focus our attention on just one proven circuit (like the Akula 1500 watt circuit) as that one has been confirmed as authentic.
   NickZ
 

Nick is it possible to attach the schematic of Akula 1500W?
Well done with your national team!  :)