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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7840289 times)

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« Reply #3885 on: January 14, 2014, 12:35:46 PM »


Yes, 10 turns is all it takes to be cool, I managed to make another core that holds on to 15 to 20 winds.

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Geo / Nick,

I have just knocked-up the same flyback ferrite transformer (as Geo shows above) with a 120V / 60W lamp as load on the secondary, tuned to max brightness with 4uF of cap and with Mazillii running from a 24V SLA battery (2X12V). Mazillii cap - 1.76uF -  8 x 0.22uF in parallel. Some measurements below.

With 4uF tuning cap: -

Current drawn from the battery: 2.94A.
Pk-pk voltage across 4uF cap: 140V.
RMS voltage: 52V.
Frequency: 16.1KHz.

Without tuning cap: -

Current drawn from the battery: 1.60A.
Pk-pk voltage across 4uF cap: 108V.
RMS voltage: 35.8V.
Frequency: 21.74KHz.

A suggestion to reduce heat in the transformer secondary, would be to increase the gauge of the secondary winding by using heavier gauge ECW. Not having any plastic insulation should allow the same number of turns. This may also eliminate the need for the copper heat-sink strips.

I will build along with Nick and report my findings and measurements as we progress.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #3885 on: January 14, 2014, 12:35:46 PM »

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« Reply #3886 on: January 14, 2014, 05:01:14 PM »
  Hoppy:
   That's good news. Glad you decided to have a stab at it...  Please upload some pics.
   I find that a 100 watt bulbs will light brighter than a 25w, or 50w, or the 60watt bulbs. So, I'm trying to just use the 100 watt, 110v type bulbs.

   Geo:  My flyback is wound all the same clockwise direction, even though the primary looks like it goes in two different directions (in my picture) from the center tap, it is really going in one direction. The flyback secondary is also wound in the same clockwise direction.
But, it looks like in your pics, the secondary is wound opposite direction to your primary. Although it can be hard to see clearly what is being shown in the pics.

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« Reply #3887 on: January 14, 2014, 07:24:43 PM »
  Hoppy:
   That's good news. Glad you decided to have a stab at it...  Please upload some pics.
   I find that a 100 watt bulbs will light brighter than a 25w, or 50w, or the 60watt bulbs. So, I'm trying to just use the 100 watt, 110v type bulbs.

   Geo:  My flyback is wound all the same clockwise direction, even though the primary looks like it goes in two different directions (in my picture) from the center tap, it is really going in one direction. The flyback secondary is also wound in the same clockwise direction.
But, it looks like in your pics, the secondary is wound opposite direction to your primary. Although it can be hard to see clearly what is being shown in the pics.

Nick, Geo,

Here are some photos of my quickly cobbled together setup. the first two photos show the Geo style ferrite transformer and the Mazillii oscillator with 'massive' heatsink. Photo 3 shows the main coil which I used for the Dally replication, with two layers of 80 turns for secondary. I wound a rough primary using thick hi-fi speaker wire. This secondary windings are connected as per Geo's 180V - 240V windings. The core is filled with ferrite lumps. Photo 4 shows a 120V / 60W lamp running off the main coil secondary winding, tuned to max brightness with 8uF, drawing 7.2A . Photo 5 shows the same lamp running directly off the secondary of the ferrite trafo with a tuning cap of 4uF, drawing 2.94A.

As we know lamp brightness in photo is is very misleading. However, the lamp on the main coil secondary was a lot brighter and in danger of blowing! Although my bench lighting was the same on both photos, the camera had to compensate on the very bright bulb, which is why the background looks darker. Its important to have a means of measuring the input current, so as to get a good idea of power consumption as different loads are applied.

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« Reply #3887 on: January 14, 2014, 07:24:43 PM »
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« Reply #3888 on: January 15, 2014, 12:03:03 AM »
  Hoppy:
  Thanks for the pictures and info on your new set up.
   One thing that I notice, that when using the square tuning caps, (like the blue ones that you have on), I only get decreased output. So, I've changed to the rounder brown ones which seam to work much better. Although after placing more than a couple of them in parallel, I don't notice any further increase in output. That's why I asked Geo which ones he was using, as they are all different, even though they may look similar.
  I just blew both of my fets, I don't know why, possibly a short circuit which I may have cause in testing this or that. So I'm replacing those with new ones now, and will continue testing.
  I have also noticed that the flyback core does not seam to provide nearly as much inductance as the much bigger yoke cores do. This comes as no surprise, as the yokes are about 5 times bigger, although also of unknown permeability.
  I'm also wondering if the 200 turn bifilar coil that Geo is using is really needed. Or, if maybe we can get by with just the single layer 80 turn output coil as it may just be enough, for just 110v bulbs. As it's not good to give the bulbs any higher voltages, than what they are rated at. For me, just using the circuit turned for the 110v bulb output would be adequate.
  I'm still trying to understand the need and purpose for so many extra coils, as just the use a primary, and secondary should be able to do the trick. Why are all these additional coils needed? Or are they, really needed???

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« Reply #3889 on: January 15, 2014, 10:47:07 AM »
  Hoppy:
  Thanks for the pictures and info on your new set up.
   One thing that I notice, that when using the square tuning caps, (like the blue ones that you have on), I only get decreased output. So, I've changed to the rounder brown ones which seam to work much better. Although after placing more than a couple of them in parallel, I don't notice any further increase in output. That's why I asked Geo which ones he was using, as they are all different, even though they may look similar.
  I just blew both of my fets, I don't know why, possibly a short circuit which I may have cause in testing this or that. So I'm replacing those with new ones now, and will continue testing.
  I have also noticed that the flyback core does not seam to provide nearly as much inductance as the much bigger yoke cores do. This comes as no surprise, as the yokes are about 5 times bigger, although also of unknown permeability.
  I'm also wondering if the 200 turn bifilar coil that Geo is using is really needed. Or, if maybe we can get by with just the single layer 80 turn output coil as it may just be enough, for just 110v bulbs. As it's not good to give the bulbs any higher voltages, than what they are rated at. For me, just using the circuit turned for the 110v bulb output would be adequate.
  I'm still trying to understand the need and purpose for so many extra coils, as just the use a primary, and secondary should be able to do the trick. Why are all these additional coils needed? Or are they, really needed???

Nick,

When you compared different types of caps were they the same capacitance?

How low does your battery voltage drop when lighting your 100W lamp(s)?

You raise a good question about all the coils. What Geo is doing with his main coil is stepping-up the voltage to a level that will light his bulbs reasonably brightly. With my 80 + 80 turn coil, I can light a 60W lamp very brightly. If I increased the turns to 100 + 100, I could very likely blow that bulb. The price paid for the higher voltage is increased current draw from the battery. Each extra stage of coils increases power consumption and results in heat losses as Geo has found. if highest bulb brightness is the objective, then the best approach would be to use just one suitably designed transformer. Geo could directly interface the Mazillii to a centre-tap primary winding on the main coil to remove the need for the 1:1 ferrite trafo. So, the answer to your question is no, they are not needed if the objective is to simply light bulbs brightly. However, Geo may have his reasons for using a multi-coil approach over and above lighting bulbs brightly, perhaps for self-running, :) so he will hopefully be explaining this in due course.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2014, 01:52:31 PM by Hoppy »

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« Reply #3890 on: January 15, 2014, 05:01:47 PM »
  Hoppy:
  All I can say about the tuning caps is that which ever cap that allows the light bulb(s) to be brighter, I include in the cap line. Those that only make the system decrease in output, I don't include. Regardless of what value or type they are. This all varies with each different ferrite core that I've tried on the Mazilli circuits.
So, my suggestion is to also try the brown rounder types as well. Those caps don't always state what value they are on the component itself, sometimes only their voltage value.
  Also, try to light at least 500 watts worth of bulbs, and tune for that draw, instead of the 60watt bulb. As it may not be the same.
 
  Concerning the battery voltage drop when a load is applied, I'll confirm that soon, but for now I would say about 1 volt, or so. This will vary with the battery condition, number of bulbs, etz... 

  Geo: How did it go with the newer flyback core with increased number of turns?
 And can you maybe explain the use or need for multiple coils. I understand the need for a primary, secondary, feed-back coil, and the frequency tuning coil (with the tuning caps). Other than those coils, I don't see the reason or need for more coils.  If you do, please expound on their usefulness.

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« Reply #3891 on: January 15, 2014, 06:05:38 PM »
  Hoppy:
  All I can say about the tuning caps is that which ever cap that allows the light bulb(s) to be brighter, I include in the cap line. Those that only make the system decrease in output, I don't include. Regardless of what value or type they are. This all varies with each different ferrite core that I've tried on the Mazilli circuits.
So, my suggestion is to also try the brown rounder types as well. Those caps don't always state what value they are on the component itself, sometimes only their voltage value.
  Also, try to light at least 500 watts worth of bulbs, and tune for that draw, instead of the 60watt bulb. As it may not be the same.
 
  Concerning the battery voltage drop when a load is applied, I'll confirm that soon, but for now I would say about 1 volt, or so. This will vary with the battery condition, number of bulbs, etz... 

  Geo: How did it go with the newer flyback core with increased number of turns?
 And can you maybe explain the use or need for multiple coils. I understand the need for a primary, secondary, feed-back coil, and the frequency tuning coil (with the tuning caps). Other than those coils, I don't see the reason or need for more coils.  If you do, please expound on their usefulness.

Nick,

I have no problem lighting a 1000W halogen strip bulb or a number of 240V 60W lamps in parallel and yes, different loads will require different tuning as we established a while back when discussing Mazillii oscillators.

The reason I asked you about the cap value was that the number needed to bring a particular lamp load to max brightness will depend on their values but both types of cap mentioned should work equally well once matched to the load; at least they do from my experiments.

A 1 volt drop on full load should be OK but a few volts and your mosfets will probably get unnecessarily hot. For some basic tech info on mosfets see here. Play safe and invest in a new and higher capacity battery and get them zeners fitted asap!

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« Reply #3892 on: January 15, 2014, 06:39:26 PM »
Hi Hoppy and Nick  ;D

Niceee, I'm actually glad you guyz are working on it! :)
but what I wanted to see if you guyz could measure the amps of input and output soon as you have it at the
Output coils, to see what it does when connecting the load. If amps decrease in input and if it increases output amps.
It's some measurement I did long ago with some meters but I have to do it again to be sure of my self. It was only 1 day of measurement. As mentioned by Hoppy.

Hoppy:
Btw Thnx for also showing the Pics :), thnx for coming aboard and trying it out too with us. This is good thing sins more minds are on it will crack and find more stuff out.
Yes, hoppy that is the correct winding of the flyback core, the Values of the caps are variable, It's to try them out but I just know the types I used are very good for use. also used some 0.9uf 400AC caps within the first cap bank. They Charge alot and hold the resonance between the first and second cap banks.
But all is to try out ;). remember the Ferrite lumps can be adjusted for greater output. Some of the pieces, depending where in the coil , cannot touch eachother otherwise resonance will break.

Nick:
About the Flyback piece, Ah I thought I saw 2 directions haha, alright then. Yes All in one direction for the primary :).
Yes the Secondary is opposite Direction of the primary.
Btw as you know now the 80 turn wire is output source, The Blue wires are the Bifilar coils 100turns each, that are a different and have a  Capacitance charge outpout where I connect trafo's, Such seen in my vids. But at the 80 turn coil, trafo's are also able to connect  to.
The 25 Turn coil on top" of the 80 turns is a LC, Coil with Capacitors, the same caps are used there, but that also increases output, It's all resonance again with the Circuit. but as you progress with hoppy you two will see how to handle it :).

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #3893 on: January 15, 2014, 07:08:26 PM »
 Btw the moment this device's schematic comes into my hands it will be replicated ! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVTKRLWAo_c

Mark's device.. waw

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« Reply #3894 on: January 15, 2014, 08:35:39 PM »
Btw the moment this device's schematic comes into my hands it will be replicated ! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVTKRLWAo_c

Mark's device.. waw

Dear GeoFusion.

I may have put two and two together and got five !!  :D ;)

But my guess is this !!  ;) ;) ;)

Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #3895 on: January 15, 2014, 09:56:25 PM »
Hi Grum  ;D

Oh but that Schematic I am familiar with , i have these saved. but Not sure if it's for the Toroid :/
but I do see that It has a capabillity of Self run because of the Cap on the left.

If it is so, Well i should work on it soon (=

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« Reply #3896 on: January 15, 2014, 10:38:02 PM »
Hi Grum  ;D

Oh but that Schematic I am familiar with , i have these saved. but Not sure if it's for the Toroid :/
but I do see that It has a capabillity of Self run because of the Cap on the left.

If it is so, Well i should work on it soon (=

Dear GeoFusion.

See attached screen shot. Possible ??

Cheers Grum.

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« Reply #3897 on: January 16, 2014, 04:25:06 AM »
  Grum:
  Interesting circuit, although I don't see any relation to "Marks" devices, other that having a toroid shaped core.
  Is what is being circled the VT5,? I can't see very clearly from the picture, is it a fet or transistor. Has anyone replicated this crt yet?

   Geo, if this new Akula device is a self runner, then it's worth replicating, also. Agreed!
  I made the air coils today for the RMG, along with obtaining the flyback ferrite pieces that fit snugly inside the pipe. I'll probably get it up and running by tomorrow sometime. Can't wait to see what it will do. I still need to get some of those 0.33uf poly caps, but I'll see what I can do with what I can scrounge up for it.
  Do you have any ideas as to how to go about making the feed back circuit for it???
PM, or e-mail, if you want to.
                                           Nick

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« Reply #3898 on: January 16, 2014, 03:37:26 PM »
Hi all! Sorry for silence (well, I suppose few would say "don't be sorry, Khwartz, we were so very pleased you go else where a little time ;) ), but the spreading of the results and basic theory of Richard Vialle's autogénérateur need some agreement, organisation and time for translation.

I was about to find something really relevant to show you first and for me nothing is more relevant than a curve of COP well calculated with checking of all peers. So here are some praphics which should speak by themselves:

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« Reply #3899 on: January 16, 2014, 04:26:42 PM »
Here the link the the page of the discussion:


http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=941&st=210&#entry31959

Here is the translation of one of the comments of Colas07 who made these measurements, largely confirmed by other experimenters and still rather closed to the predictions of Richard Vialle's theory:


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  j'alimente une ampoule 12V 5W
I feed a 12V 5W light bulb

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elle consomme 0.75W alors que le "U" ne consomme que 0.02W
It consumnes 0.75W while the "U" [the "core" of Richard's autogen which has a U shape] only consumes 0.02W

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COP = Pout / Pin = 0.7 / 0.02 = 35 mais oui truc de fou !
COP = Pout / Pin = 0.7 / 0.02 = 35 but yes! A completly crazy thing!

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J'ai refais les mesures plusieurs fois dans les même conditions et toujours pareil !
I have done several times again the measurements in the same conditions and always the same!


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J'ai pris ma sonde et un multimètre calibre 50mA à 330Khz direct sur une ampoule et les deux donnes les même valeur....sonde = ok !
I have taken my probe and a 50mA caliber multimeter at 330Khz directly on a light bulb and both give the same values....probe = OK!

 
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je ne sais pas pourquoi je suis à 4.807Mhz et pas à 3.6Mhz...cela diffère des prédictions de richard.
I don't know why I am at 4.807Mhz and not at 3.6Mhz...it differs from Richard's predictions.


 
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pour le moment je vois pas d'erreur.... il est temps de passer à la suite.
for the moment I don't see any error.... it is time to go on the next step.

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Note from the translator: The theoretical power of a Richard's Autogen with a "U" of 1 m is 6 kW, which is in agreement with the several "burning circuits incidents" now registred while encounter this kind of power.

A call is made presently for help for reducing the consuption of the electronic stages.

Indeed, if we obtain even infinite COP in real while making the ratio output under input of the "U", as predicted by Richard's theory, we are hardly going up to 1.8 of COP, or just stay underunity, while making the ratio output of the U under input of the electronics which feeds the U. So we would much appreciate help from you guys if you are skill in these matter to reduce consumption in the electronic stage.

Cheers.

 

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