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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8509700 times)

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« Reply #1800 on: June 04, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »
with the core material that i've been playing with, there is a correlation with the on time of the mosfet and the peak voltage of the spike immediately after the mosfet is switched off.

i think the core material requires some time for it to get charged up depending on the energy applied.

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« Reply #1801 on: June 04, 2013, 07:15:15 PM »
  MenofFather:
   That hand drawn diagram is showing that the center tap of the yoke is receiving  25v,  not 220v. But that diagram is said not to be accurate, or to be trusted.
   I know that the yoke's 3 turn coil goes to the 5uf capacitor then to the resonator coil, and back to the yoke. That is not the question.  Nor is it connected to the big air coil, either.
   My question is still how much voltage/current is going to the center tap of the yoke.  As it is not going from the 220v Ac to Dc rectifier then direct to the yoke, as it is going first through the driver circuit to be pulsed and the duty cycle and frequency adjusted for optimum gain, then to the yoke center tap. I think.  If the yoke were only getting 25v like in the diagram you re-posted, that would result in practically no output (current) after the 3 turn yoke coil. Which is what I'm getting. Maybe this is how it's supposed to be. Even if I give the center tap 1000+volts, hardly anything comes out of the 3 turn coil, only empty fluffy voltage with no current.  So, there may be something very wrong with what I'm doing.
 And giving the yoke pulsed high voltage with little current is not going produce the expected results.
It needs mayor current to do the trick, and work like an induction heater.

  I think that so far no one here has figured out just what is going on, and how it's supposed to work.
And to relate this to everyday electronics, is not going to cut it. As none of this is what we were previously taught. 
  The problem in all the self-runners is the unresolved transistor heat issue. So, they won't run very long without burning out. Only for a few minutes, possibly. That's why Akula does not connect the 500 watt bulb until the last part of the video, then only for a couple of minutes. This problem may have possibly been resolved in his last video, using a thick ground connection, and a different lay out.
But, it may be that the draw is way to high for the system to handle, still, as he is not lighting his house, or heating it, as he said, previously. 
All of this could have been resolved, if he would have e-mailed me back.

  Back to the wild goose chase.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2013, 02:14:30 AM by NickZ »

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« Reply #1802 on: June 04, 2013, 08:14:22 PM »
   The FWBR getting hot can be fixed by using multiple diodes on each leg of it and using a heat sink. As for the Fets, jeeze, use multiples here too. Want to move the air, put a fan on the sinks.
   As you all know, I have been working at the tl494 pwms. Finally gave up and will just use a 555 to drive the mot I have now. It was just for the HV anyhow. I am trying to get my head around how the coils actually affect each other. Then there is the mini TMT in the middle of all this. Darn sure it boils down to where the standing waves appear. Back in the chase again.

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« Reply #1803 on: June 04, 2013, 08:49:21 PM »
  MenofFather:
   That hand drawn diagram is showing that the center tap of the yoke is receiving  25v,  not 220v. But that diagram is said not to be accurate, or to be trusted.
   I know that the yoke's 3 turn coil goes to the 5uf capacitor then to the resonator coil, and back to the yoke. That is not the question.  Nor is it connected to the big air coil, either.
   My question is still how much voltage/current is going to the center tap of the yoke.  As it is not going from the 220v Ac to Dc rectifier then direct to the yoke, as it is going first through the driver circuit to be pulsed and the duty cycle and frequency adjusted for optimum gain, then to the yoke center tap. I think.  If the yoke were only getting 25v like in the diagram you re-posted, that would result in practically no output (current) after the 3 turn yoke coil. Which is what I'm getting. Maybe this is how it's supposed to be. Even if I give the center tap 1000+volts, hardly anything comes out of the 3 turn coil, only empty fluffy voltage with no current.  So, there may be something very wrong with what I'm doing.
 And giving the yoke pulsed high voltage with little current is not going produce the expected results.
It needs mayor current to do the trick, and work like an induction heater.

  I think that so far no one here has figured out just what is going on, and how it's supposed to work.
And to relate this to everyday electronics, is not going to cut it. As none of this is what we were previously taught. 
  The problem in all the self-runners is the unresolved transistor heat issue. So, they won't run very long without burning out. Only for a few minutes, possibly. That's why Akula does not connect the 500 watt bulb until the last part of the video, then only for a couple of minutes. This problem may have possibly been resolved in his last video, using a thick ground connection, and a different lay out.
But, it may be that the draw is way to high for the system handle, still, as he is not lighting his house, or heating it, as he said, previously.  All of this could have been resolved, if he would have e-mailed me back.

  Back to the wild goose chase.
"[size=78%] That hand drawn diagram is showing that the center tap of the yoke is receiving  25v,  not 220v. But that diagram is said not to be accurate, or to be trusted.[/size][size=78%] "[/size]
[size=78%]This diagram maybe that from that akula begin, or it maybe first his generator free energy works on 25 volts.[/size]
"[size=78%] My question is still how much voltage/current is going to the center tap of the yoke.[/size][size=78%] "[/size]
[size=78%]Voltage is 220 volts. Curent is about 2-4 amps. Because if it be 5 let say amps, then it can burn mosfet. If be 0,5 amps, then mosfets not makes be hot, I remebber he say that mosfets makes hot or something that.[/size]

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« Reply #1804 on: June 04, 2013, 09:02:45 PM »
NickZ


The heating problem tell us there are many many amperes running through them and I agree with that... but seriously eliminating transistor is a next step ,too much ahead,maybe Akula may fight  this issue now, but we don't...imho You are good observer like many here , just take notes about various effects and you will solve that....

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« Reply #1805 on: June 04, 2013, 09:14:42 PM »
Nick, I get almost 100 precent eficienty, probarly about 80-95 on yoke with one mosfet. Input 18,2 volst and 2,7 amps, autput 55 W 12 volts lamp and it light bright. I paste squres with NE555 with 50 precent duty cycle. And parallel to rimary is 1-4 mikrofarads capasitor, I not remember now. But for ajusting need chose right capasitor and right frenquency. In mine divice seems about 10 kiloherc. I think important is get on output big voltage, so you can not use 220 volts. But on primary use 24 windings (in my divece is 24 vinding on primary and 19 on secondary) and on secondary let say 60 windings and you get on output, if input 20 volts, you get  45 volts, it similiary like in Akula divece. I think maybe is important big voltage on output yoke and modulation 100 herc and run this trouth capasitor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raydg7YpJ7Y

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« Reply #1806 on: June 04, 2013, 10:41:55 PM »
 Sounds like neither you nor the video that you posted are obtaining any real results, as even 100% is not any gain. Just using about the same input as what is obtained by the output.
  Last night I had my Joule Ringer single transistor circuit light a 15 watt Cfl nice and bright, on 10v and about 1amp, but after a couple of hours the internal circuit in the warm white Cfl got hot, and burned out.
This same thing has happened to two 110v led bulbs, and two standard 110v 25watt and 15watt Cfls bulbs, now. Even though they are not running at the same brightness as when connected to the AC grid source.  It's very frustrating.  As the 15watt Cfl bulb was lighting quite nicely, especially when I place a 25uf cap between the Ringer circuit and the bulb, it helped, but the internal circuit still burned out. Too high a voltage, I think, as the current is less than needed normally, even though the draw from the load will drop the voltage considerably.]
 So, yes, the frequency must also be adjusted to 50 or 60 hertz,  as well as the voltage output. 
  I think that this is the reason that an inverter is used, as it will adjust the frequency to 50 or 60 hertz 110v or 220v from the 12v input, or from the feed-back path circuit, also.  As I am feeding-back high voltage Ac into the transistor collector,  battery positive or negative rail. That may be the problem, also, it may need to at least be rectified, although that is not a problem with the bulbs  when using incandescent bulbs that contain no internal circuitry.

  Cheap 150 watt inverter: Used by Lynxsteam in his smaller version of the SolN1
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« Reply #1807 on: June 05, 2013, 02:24:06 AM »
  Thaelin:
   The Fets along with the rectifiers can be placed on big motherboard heat sinks with Pc fans on them, as TK has shown, but at several Kw output, they may still get very hot. I think that the heat control part of it is doable. It's getting that big output from the small input that is the first step. But, you need a big current input, not mAs, from 12volts. That's why they are using a 400 watt inverter, and 12v battery. The inverter and battery along with the ground connection also help to control the heat issue, and keep the device stable, I believe.

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« Reply #1808 on: June 05, 2013, 05:36:53 AM »
Sounds like neither you nor the video that you posted are obtaining any real results, as even 100% is not any gain. Just using about the same input as what is obtained by the output.
  Last night I had my Joule Ringer single transistor circuit light a 15 watt Cfl nice and bright, on 10v and about 1amp, but after a couple of hours the internal circuit in the warm white Cfl got hot, and burned out.
This same thing has happened to two 110v led bulbs, and two standard 110v 25watt and 15watt Cfls bulbs, now. Even though they are not running at the same brightness as when connected to the AC grid source.  It's very frustrating.  As the 15watt Cfl bulb was lighting quite nicely, especially when I place a 25uf cap between the Ringer circuit and the bulb, it helped, but the internal circuit still burned out. Too high a voltage, I think, as the current is less than needed normally, even though the draw from the load will drop the voltage considerably.]
 So, yes, the frequency must also be adjusted to 50 or 60 hertz,  as well as the voltage output. 
  I think that this is the reason that an inverter is used, as it will adjust the frequency to 50 or 60 hertz 110v or 220v from the 12v input, or from the feed-back path circuit, also.  As I am feeding-back high voltage Ac into the transistor collector,  battery positive or negative rail. That may be the problem, also, it may need to at least be rectified, although that is not a problem with the bulbs  when using incandescent bulbs that contain no internal circuitry.

Hi NickZ,
Please allow me to chime in, for I am familiar with this kind of burn out problem you are facing with.
The CFLs and LED internal circuit are built in with "Forced Obsolescence" in mind by the manufacturers. Since CFLs and LEDs do not burn out frequently, they put in AC caps which are slightly lower than the suitable working voltage tolerance in the guts. So when the lamp fails, it used to be the AC caps which had gone blown out.
You'd better replace all the AC caps inside the CFL and LED with capacitors of 2X the nominal voltage tolerance of the originals in the circuit, and you will have lights which will last for a whole life!
That was my personal experience with these appliances.

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« Reply #1809 on: June 05, 2013, 06:50:13 AM »
   Aaron:
   Yes, thanks for the tip. I'm also familiar with the pop of the small AC caps inside the CFL or LED bulbs. They are the weak link, but I'm tired of having to replace them, with equivalent ones. I'll try the higher voltage ones, if I can find them.

   MenofFather:  I've been looking at the video from Akula, and have observed that the yoke's red coil wire on the right side is connected to the rectifier (black wire going to the red coil wire), and the opposite end of that red coil wire is also connected to a yellow wire that leads to the driver circuit. This is right when he touches the yoke and talks of the sound it makes.
  So, the yoke's red coil is getting 220volts rectified, after the inverter, as you had mentioned. I had to use the Hoppy way to stop the video and really look closely, and use a magnifier also, but I did see it.
And so this may explain how the 3 turn coil winding gets it's 220v and possibly several amps of current, from inverter then further raises the current, while dropping the voltage to about 50 volts, or so.
  Hopefully that is another step towards unraveling the puzzle.

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« Reply #1810 on: June 05, 2013, 12:47:21 PM »
He could go below 100ns pulse width with his MOSFET DSRD driver (without the associated toroid and the DSR diode, attached).

Also, notice, that Itsu's load is not powered by the spikes only, but it is also powered by the rectified sine wave. 
He could use Zener diodes in series with his load/bulb so that only spikes get through.

Thanks gyulasun and verpies,

i will need a MOSFET driver as with increasing gate pulse frequency, the MOSFET does not completly shortens (closes) anymore.

Concerning the use of the zeners in series with the load/bulb, does that not chop off the upper part (meaning the spike) of the signal?

Anyway, i will try it the next days.

Here the video about the increased shortening frequency (not much difference) and increased duty cycle (dramatic change in input power and heat production in the MOSFETs / diodes :-)  )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVy4MgnR1z8&feature=youtu.be

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« Reply #1811 on: June 05, 2013, 02:11:32 PM »
Nick. I not say what I get eficienty more than 100 procents. I get about probarly 70-95 precents eficienty. Let say 80 precents. But I use only one mosfet, not two like in Akla divice. So schematic is very simple and not need two mosfets and center tap, that makes schematic more simple and big ficienty. 80 precents I think is big eficienty. In Akula yoke maybe also is 80 precenets about eficienty. Akula's yoke not give eficienty let say 110 precents, if it give that eficienty then not need air core and not need say about Henerdshot, drosel and so on.

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« Reply #1812 on: June 05, 2013, 02:16:04 PM »
Concerning the use of the zeners in series with the load/bulb, does that not chop off the upper part (meaning the spike) of the signal?
Zeners in series with a load only let the spikes reach the load.
Zeners in parallel with a load chop-off the spikes and only let the rectified sine wave reach the load.

I am referring to the moving charges that reach the load (a.k.a. electric current).

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« Reply #1813 on: June 05, 2013, 07:20:05 PM »
  MenofFather:
   Yes, none of us has over 100% efficiency, but Akula has much more than 100%, that is the difference.
I agree that it may have to do with the additional aircoil/and choke set up, but not with the feed-back part of it of the circuit.  Although TK did not need them, nor use them, in the back-yard radiator video, that I can see. As he showed that the car battery could light the several incandescent bulbs through the 400 watt inverter, and his special circuit, no problem. But the battery would discharge itself, if it were not for the feed back coil mounted at the end of the air core, which would go to the big iron core transformer, and then back to the battery, to recharge it. TK was using two transistors or mosfets mounted on heat sinks, with a 12 Pc motherboard processor fan cooling them, and they were still getting hot. Other than that, who knows what else there was to it all.

  The main thing for me now is to see how I can give the yoke more voltage and current, but I'm a little scared to connect a straight grid source of 110v input to it.  Any advice is welcome.

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« Reply #1814 on: June 05, 2013, 07:48:39 PM »
  MenofFather:
   Yes, none of us has over 100% efficiency, but Akula has much more than 100%, that is the difference.
I agree that it may have to do with the additional aircoil/and choke set up, but not with the feed-back part of it of the circuit.  Although TK did not need them, nor use them, in the back-yard radiator video, that I can see. As he showed that the car battery could light the several incandescent bulbs through the 400 watt inverter, and his special circuit, no problem. But the battery would discharge itself, if it were not for the feed back coil mounted at the end of the air core, which would go to the big iron core transformer, and then back to the battery, to recharge it. TK was using two transistors or mosfets mounted on heat sinks, with a 12 Pc motherboard processor fan cooling them, and they were still getting hot. Other than that, who knows what else there was to it all.

  The main thing for me now is to see how I can give the yoke more voltage and current, but I'm a little scared to connect a straight grid source of 110v input to it.  Any advice is welcome.
I maybe little make mistake. From 0.5 amperes mosfet can makes hot. So in akula divice to yoke going 0,5-2 amps about.
"[size=78%] [/size][size=78%]but I'm a little scared to connect a straight grid source of 110v input to it.[/size][size=78%] "[/size]
[size=78%]Better use, bay inverter like in akula, or like Dally make converter 1-10 kiloherc from 12 volts to 150 volts. But probarly Akula use small duty cycle, about 10 precents, becaus 50 precents is must use curent about 10 amps maybe. Akula say in one video that he can help make сварочный апарат who use 40-50 wats, if good remeber. Maybe he in this divice get overunity?[/size]

 

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