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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11715588 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1575 on: May 23, 2013, 07:19:58 PM »
  Anandml:
   Looks like you have put some thought into the diagram. Thank you for sharing it with us. That is what we need to obtain,  a clear and proven diagram, to inspire the more skeptical guys to replicate, as well.
   You are showing that the yoke center tap is getting the 220v from the inverter. And also showing the unknown white wire ( in the video) is going to the yoke then to ground. I also suspect that the yoke must be getting some considerable voltage, and current, for there to be anything coming out of the 3 turn coil. But, just how it all works is still unknown to me. I am trying different things, sometimes without thinking about it, as thinking can get in the way of finding how it all really works, as this is no ordinary circuit.
  Try your idea out, and let us know how it goes.  Maybe Verpies or some of the other guys can guide you better, if they see something that is not right in the diagram. I think that you may have a good start on this. 


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« Reply #1576 on: May 23, 2013, 07:29:03 PM »
On which peaks shown on this diagram (red, blue, pink), should the secondary be shorted by the switch S2 ?
The pink on peak of sine wave if that represents voltage.

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« Reply #1577 on: May 23, 2013, 07:52:36 PM »
  Hoppy:
   I have mentioned that at times my yoke circuit shown previously would unexpectedly "KICK IN", without any changes done on my part. The light bulbs would get very bright, and the yoke and ferrite rod would start to audibly ring, loudly. At the same time there would also be a very noticeable vibration, in the core(s). This was when the current drawn also was increased (by itself), and the transistor would also get hot, too hot to touch after a while, even when using a heat sink.
  I could never find or control this action, and effect, even now.  I attribute it to some kind of resonance, but this would never happen at the beginning, but only after at least 5 or 10 minutes, or more, running time.
  To me, the loudness and added vibrations of the ferrite cores, indicates the amount of current flowing through them, and the intensity of the sound and vibrations are relative to the amount of current being drawn. 
There may also be more to it, but those are my observations.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1578 on: May 23, 2013, 08:30:59 PM »
  MenofFather:
   On your correction you are showing the half wave rectified 220v going directly to the end of the red yoke wire, going though that dual opposite wound coil and then to the rest of the driver circuit. You are not showing the connection to the center tap of that red yoke wire. I don't think that is how it goes. The center tap, and what it does may be very important, and is not going to work the same if not included, as you are showing. 
All this needs to be tested, in any case. But, the reversed opposite wound coils seam to be a repeated theme in most all the working devices.


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« Reply #1579 on: May 23, 2013, 08:31:26 PM »
The pink on peak of sine wave if that represents voltage.
Good, now we are communicating.

According to conventional circuit theory, briefly closing the switch (S2) at the peaks of the secondary voltage waveform (pink) should not charge the capacitor C2 to a voltage higher than V1 when S2 opens, because when the pink waveform is at its maximum then the blue waveform is at zero. ( IPRI ∝ dvsec/dt )
Since the blue waveform represents current in the primary, that means that no current flows in the primary when S1 closes and that also means that magnetic flux in T1 is zero, as well, thus no magnetic energy is stored in T1.
This means that a flyback pulse should not be generated.

Hence if C2 charges to more than V1 then we'd have a violation of conventional circuit theory and an anomaly.

P.S.
Don't misunderstand me as refusing to test this anomaly just because it cannot work according to conventional circuit theory.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1580 on: May 23, 2013, 08:32:34 PM »
@Cap-Z-ro:


If you have ideas and going to do experiments based on Ismael's work, please start a thread and share your progress  :D


truesearch


trusearch, I have no idea where my thoughts will take me, I'm kind of unconventional in my approach to things.

It will likely be a hodgepodge of things I've seen on the net and my own ideas.

Thanks.

Regards...


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« Reply #1581 on: May 23, 2013, 08:39:09 PM »
  Hoppy:
   I have mentioned that at times my yoke circuit shown previously would unexpectedly "KICK IN", without any changes done on my part. The light bulbs would get very bright, and the yoke and ferrite rod would start to audibly ring, loudly. At the same time there would also be a very noticeable vibration, in the core(s). This was when the current drawn also was increased (by itself), and the transistor would also get hot, to hot to touch after a while, even on a heat sink, although showing less heat than if it were by itself, and without a heat sink.
  I could never find or control this action, and effect, even now.  I attribute it to some kind of resonance, but this would never happen at the beginning, but only after at least 5 or 10 minutes, or more, running time.
  To me, the loudness and added vibrations of the ferrite cores, indicates the amount of current flowing through them, and the intensity of the sound and vibrations are relative to the amount of current being drawn. 
There may also be more to it, but those are my observations.

Nick,

It sounds like your transistor might be close to a condition termed 'second breakdown', which will cause over heating of the transistor that can lead to junction failure. If its a mosfet, then incorrect gate drive conditions could be the cause of over heating.

The audible 'ringing' when the oscillator is loaded to your ferrite coil with parallel cap is likely indicating that the the waveform is 'spiking'. When you hit resonance, the audible whistle should stop because the waveform turns sinusoidal and the current from the supply will drop.

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« Reply #1582 on: May 23, 2013, 09:01:29 PM »
  Well I wish that I could control that condition, because when it happens it allows for much greater output, from the same fixed input. The overheating of course can cause transistor failure, but I had it going that way for a while.
Now it is not doing it (kicking in) any more (which I am missing),  as I'm using a different transistor. Nor am I getting the same output levels in the normal condition, as before. All transistors vary somewhat in any case, but keep in mind that my circuit is feed back to the transistor control, battery positive rail, or even to the earth ground.
The point being that when the circuits kicks in, so does the ringing, vibrations, and transistor heat. The stronger the ringing, the higher the output. Which my daughters can't put up with, or myself, for that matter.
  What you may be hearing is similar to an AC transformer hum, which may sound similar to what Akula is mentioning is coming from his yoke. I hear a ringing, he hears a hum. May or may not be the same kind of thing, possibly only a matter of degree, as ringing may turn into a vibrating hum at higher output levels.
 Like when the grid power line transformers sing their last dieing death song... bagh,  bagh,  bagh,  and out she goes.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1583 on: May 23, 2013, 09:41:18 PM »
  I ran into one of my older videos from last year. But, as it's showing my Lasersaber circuit version 3.0 running fairly well, and lighting a 60 watt incandescent, and also a 25 watt CFL bulb, I thought you may find it interesting to watch, if nothing else.
  Sometimes even I forget what I've done before, so the videos are a good reminder. This set up can also light several 7.5 watt 110v led bulbs, through a single small solar panel/ 12v 7ah battery as the input. And is much more economical on the battery charge, than a regular car inverter system. As many as a dozen of those led lights can be lit from a single 2n3055 transistor circuit.
       
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chEwqvtJUOA&list=PLO6FJVqlxatdWWYJlHiW6HVLPBOgR64xP&index=6


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1584 on: May 23, 2013, 09:50:39 PM »
  MenofFather:
   On your correction you are showing the half wave rectified 220v going directly to the end of the red yoke wire, going though that dual opposite wound coil and then to the rest of the driver circuit. You are not showing the connection to the center tap of that red yoke wire. I don't think that is how it goes. The center tap, and what it does may be very important, and is not going to work the same if not included, as you are showing. 
All this needs to be tested, in any case. But, the reversed opposite wound coils seam to be a repeated theme in most all the working devices.
I not think that ceneter tap is important, but you can use it if want, just that is more easy make.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1585 on: May 23, 2013, 10:08:59 PM »
  Well I wish that I could control that condition, because when it happens it allows for much greater output, from the same fixed input. The overheating of course can cause transistor failure, but I had it going that way for a while.
Now it is not doing it (kicking in) any more (which I am missing),  as I'm using a different transistor. Nor am I getting the same output levels in the normal condition, as before. All transistors vary somewhat in any case, but keep in mind that my circuit is feed back to the transistor control, battery positive rail, or even to the earth ground.
The point being that when the circuits kicks in, so does the ringing, vibrations, and transistor heat. The stronger the ringing, the higher the output. Which my daughters can't put up with, or myself, for that matter.
  What you may be hearing is similar to an AC transformer hum, which may sound similar to what Akula is mentioning is coming from his yoke. I hear a ringing, he hears a hum. May or may not be the same kind of thing, possibly only a matter of degree, as ringing may turn into a vibrating hum at higher output levels.
 Like when the grid power line transformers sing their last dieing death song... bagh,  bagh,  bagh,  and out she goes.

You may also have noticed that your cap gets hot when the coil is ringing, so make sure the cap is voltage rated adequately as the p-p voltage rises considerably! Also, use polypropylene type caps with a DC rating of at least 400V and preferably higher.

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« Reply #1586 on: May 23, 2013, 10:15:45 PM »
   Menof:
   I have made it both ways, and have not noticed a big difference, but as I'm trying to replicate the akula video as closely as I can, I'll continue to use the center tap for now, to see if I can hit on whatever it is that makes a difference. Previously I was just using a single layer white wire as the primary, instead. Which is still on the yoke, to be used as akula's has his also, (with open ends). Hard to tell if that wire is connected to anything or not, but maybe you are right and it goes from the 220v input to the yoke, and back to it, to close that circuit. That would explain some things. The main thing is to be able to get that surprising output, that he is showing. There may be more than one way to do it.


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« Reply #1587 on: May 23, 2013, 10:36:57 PM »
 Hoppy, I have not used or needed caps up to now.  Did you watch my video that I just posted?
The only component is a transistor. I love simple circuits. Right now my circuit is running as cool as it can get, and very brightly lighting the 110v 7watt incandescent bulb, which is my test indicator.

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« Reply #1588 on: May 23, 2013, 11:15:40 PM »
Hoppy, I have not used or needed caps up to now.  Did you watch my video that I just posted?
The only component is a transistor. I love simple circuits. Right now my circuit is running as cool as it can get, and very brightly lighting the 110v 7watt incandescent bulb, which is my test indicator.

Yes, I've looked at your video of the Joule Thief. Try a winding on an enclosed ferrite such as a double E-core or toroid for even better efficiency.

What is your next step in your progress towards self-running?

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« Reply #1589 on: May 24, 2013, 12:20:54 AM »
  I have wound many toroids, round air cores, yokes, and other circular cores, along with  E-cores, and even iron transformers, they all work, and work well. But, the toroids and E-cores ring the worst.  Air coil don't, at least not much. Ferrite cores have the most punch and current output, per volume, but their ringing at higher outputs is hard to take.
 
  My ongoing Akula replication is what I'm currently working on. It's the toughest build of all. As no one really knows how it works, or can replicate it, as shown.  Before trying for a self runner it must first run, and produce good output, at least 100 watts, or more. Then I'll try to feed back path as shown. I've already wound the feed back coil on it, but need the two bigger AC caps shown, or maybe not so big.
  I'm sure with time more information will be forthcoming, especially if there are really hundreds already working in other countries. Or you can just wait and buy it, when available, now that it has been sold. 
  Thanks again to all our Russian speaking posters, as without them this may not be possible.