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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 9058010 times)

Offline itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #300 on: October 08, 2012, 04:29:54 PM »
What happens to the polarity of the pulses if you flip the switch S2 ?

Nothing,  they stay the same.
S2 changes (inverts) the signal on pin 1 of the nano-pulser 74HCT00, but seems not to effect the output nano-pulse polarity.
You can see that in one of the earlier video's where a flip the switch while scoping both the input and output of the nano-pulser
See this video at the 2:10 minute mark:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=027nASXSktc&list=UUdJ2A-075yx9y4bKqu_8Q8A&index=3&feature=plcp

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #300 on: October 08, 2012, 04:29:54 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #301 on: October 08, 2012, 05:54:26 PM »
@Itsu
You could change the polarity of these 300ns pulses as shown below, however it won't be a 1:1 replication anymore and the rise time may suffer because of the decreased gate fan-out. 
A slipshod job, in the least.

The alternative is to switch to emitter follower or add more gates or transistors.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #302 on: October 08, 2012, 07:05:15 PM »
Hello All!
Found here something to calculate ferrite ring permeability...
Hope will be useful for you all in near future :)...

http://coil32.narod.ru/download-en.html

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« Reply #302 on: October 08, 2012, 07:05:15 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #303 on: October 08, 2012, 09:20:55 PM »

verpies,


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The alternative is to switch to emitter follower

I will try that first (emitter follower), thanks for looking into this.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #304 on: October 08, 2012, 10:58:52 PM »
I will try that first (emitter follower), thanks for looking into this.
If you want to learn more about emitter followers then take a look at page 32 of the attachment, for a complementary push-pull emitter-follower in Fig. 52a.

P.S.
Note that I have not taken the time to analyze the DSR Diode driver that uses a saturable core transformer.
Maybe this circuit is supposed to work with Q6 conducting most of the time and interrupting the current in W1 of T1 only for 300ns (like in a car's ignition coil).
Maybe the current through L5 will not have the time to build up to destructive levels during the 50μs between the 300ns needles (assuming 20kHz oscillation of U2).
Unfortunately, the relevant document describing this method of driving the DSRD by a saturable transformer is written in Russian language.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #305 on: October 08, 2012, 11:22:34 PM »
Well, if you mention the NMR simulation at  http://www.drcmr.dk/JavaCompass/ ,
it would be prudent to maintain a strict analogy to it.

Wasabi correctly noticed that this simulation shows a unidirectional and constant strong vertical magnetic field, but the Dally device does not have any constant fields, does it?

Alas!, I don't think it even has a unidirectional field.

I could not find any better easy visual explanation of what is happening in process.
In simulation you are looking at there is constant aligment  of compas needle (magnetic domain) but in reality it will be AC sine wave driven rotating magnetic domain with second (small magnet) signal changing polarity too. So this is where you can compare it with what is happening in primary coil->LC  resonant balast coil energy transfer->output coil.
If that still does not explain what I tried to show, you might go and read NMR patents for better explanation:
http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/GB763062.pdf
http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm

It is crucial to understand process before you can take grasp on devices of this type and then actually assemble working unit.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #306 on: October 09, 2012, 05:15:48 AM »
 what is the flow of electrons in the cylinder?

I REALLY like this resonant frequency calculator, can give any two, leave third blank and it works.  It's a self contained script also, so can rip to standalone.


http://www.whatcircuits.com/lc-resonance-frequency-calculator/



Rewound my L1-L4 coils... these are more approximate to the dimensions, I found a cardboard tube that was about 4.58cm diameter.  I then used the flat sides of 1 Liter plastic bottles to make tubes that were an exact diameter to a seem so I could wind a coil on them.  L2 is about 2 layer of masking tape or 1 plastic bottle on top of L1, instead of on concentric PVC pipes.  I then wound RG58-strandedshield 21 windings, and a sub coil on the end that is 14 gauge copper 14x2 layers, so both ends come out like the blue windings of Dally.  Then I fit the outside on another sleeve of plastic bottles that fits outside.  Unfortuntatly the 14x2 coil is slightly larger, and I sized it to a slight diameter bigger than the coax...  will have to redo that one later ( RG50 - hooray for non american parts).


L1 is now 3.02mh (+.64)  (28 turns/cm  17.8cm, 498 turns, Dally spec 475, (needs minus 21, or 1cm-oh good, thought I was short )[/size]
L2 is now 20 gauge, 160 windings (to be turned back maybe) 0.400 ( -.865mh)  (currently 176 turns, Dally spec 159, needs minus 17, for 11 turns/cm )
L3 is now 0.020mh  (-.006)  (coax, shorter wire, needs foil shielding probably not stranded shield... but then what is the flow of electrons in the cylinder?  ) (21 turns as spec... )
L4 is now 0.182mh   (59 turns... that's actually what it should be... but then again at this diameter, it's more significant +/- a turn)


.... this this means I need 4uf capacitor instead of the 1 for L2....resonance at 4.2Khz.  Right now I have bad resonanance capping at only 50V . My (what was that first part, inverter) isn't generatating 150++V  ...


I dunno I guess I'll go forward with this,



I did some measuring of my coils...
L1 is 2.28mH  28gauge 
L2 is 1.265mH  24 gauge
l3 (insdie and outside) is 0.026mh (lowest end of my meter, not nesscarily accurate)
l4 is .126mh  12 gauge
the additional coil I had on L4 is .256mh



My L2 computes resonant around 4.3Khz with 1uf cap (almost exactly 1.0)


L2 was pk-pk 200V, the L1 driver voltage is something around 150V, as my neons only come on briefly, so, by turns, the best I could do ....

[size=78%]L1 is 22.5cm long, and using 28 gauge wire has 25 turns/cm for 562 turns.[/size]
L2 is 22.5cm long and using is approx 20 turns/cm for 450turns
L4 is wound with 12 gauge wire, 4 turns/cm, and is 24cm long, 96 turns.

[size=78%]L1 : 562:96 = 5.854 .... 150V/5.854 = 25V[/size]
L2 : 450:96 = 4.687 ... 100V/4.687 = 21V  (100V for half wave rectified...)


but I was clearly reading 75V on the capacitor across L4 (when L2 was at resonance)


The cap I was using on the L2 coil was also a 100V mylar capacitor, maybe that capped it?  But it didn't look chopped or have strange drops...




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1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------Coil calculation— One-layer coil a turn to a turn                Diameter of former D: 46 mm                Diameter of a wire d: 0.848 mm                Length of winding l: 134.454 mm=>Number of turns of the coil: 158.554=>Inductance: 354.738 µH   (3.02mh)  (coil too short)2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------Inductance calculation— One-layer coil a turn to a turn                Coil inductance 354.738 µH                Working frequency 0.0069 MHz                Diameter of former D: 46 mm                Diameter of a wire d: 0.848 mm=>Length of winding l: 134.455 mm=>Number of turns of the coil: 158.555=>Q~ 413 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------Contour calculation                Inductance of a circuit: 354.738 µH                Circuit capacitance: 1500000 pF=>Frequency of a circuit: 0.0069 MHz

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #306 on: October 09, 2012, 05:15:48 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #307 on: October 09, 2012, 05:31:55 AM »


Rewound my L1-L4 coils... these are more approximate to the dimensions, I found a cardboard tube that was about 4.58mm diameter .... 

Hope it's a typo. Should be 45.8mm  :)
 
@all: thank's for all the usefull data (T-1000, Vasily, Verpies, Itsu and so on)
 
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #308 on: October 09, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »
Okay, so I reassembled all these coils, measured inductances again and they were the same measurements... added some caps to get my L2 frequency down to 5-6Khz...


If I don't connect L1, I get plenty over solid high voltage in the neon/cap/resistor side of the coil.  As soon as I connect the other coil, I get a voltage drop entirely across that winding on the toroid.


I can get a resonant voltage in L2 of 50volts... and I dunno, probably that also reverse inducts into L1 in turn the toroid, so maybe there's a harmonic there that I can't control....


hmm... which by the way, when I use only the high voltage neon side, I have no frequency adjustment ability...


I need some terms for the outputs on the toroid...


Something I learned with the joule thief... if I had multiple secondaries, if I shorted one, the other wouldn't get the same amount of power... so both sides really had to be balanced....


But anyway, how do I keep L1 from being a 0 ohm load that consumes all of the pulse from the toroid?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #308 on: October 09, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #309 on: October 09, 2012, 07:35:46 AM »
Is there any reflection through a bridge rectifier?  Like is the capacitance on the other side actually part of the primary side?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #310 on: October 09, 2012, 08:36:04 AM »
what is the flow of electrons in the cylinder?

I REALLY like this resonant frequency calculator, can give any two, leave third blank and it works.  It's a self contained script also, so can rip to standalone.


http://www.whatcircuits.com/lc-resonance-frequency-calculator/



Please find very interesting and usefull site with numerous calculators for LC circuit
and EM waves propogation .
Want recomend for all OU resechears .
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #311 on: October 09, 2012, 09:05:38 AM »
But anyway, how do I keep L1 from being a 0 ohm load that consumes all of the pulse from the toroid?
@d3x0r
Before I can help you, I must know which schematic diagram you are using to build your circuit.
There are many versions floating around.

Please post a link to it. For example see here...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #312 on: October 09, 2012, 09:36:58 AM »

(Added video links)

@d3x0r
Before I can help you, I must know which schematic diagram you are using to build your circuit.
There are many versions floating around.

Please post a link to it. For example see here...



Here...  Actually the post after yours....

But in either case, 4 of Tr2 is connected to L1 directly, which saps all the power.


(these are some of my testings... )


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxyfKbh6Loo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M482imX3L78

« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 01:02:07 PM by d3x0r »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #313 on: October 09, 2012, 01:29:58 PM »
L1 is now 3.02mH (+.64)  (28 turns/cm  17.8cm, 498 turns, Dally spec 475, (needs minus 21, or 1cm-oh good, thought I was short )
Because L1 has an inductance of 3.02mH it means that it resists 4.6kHz AC sine wave as much as an 87Ω resistor (a.k.a. impedance).
Because W4 of Tr2 outputs a 4.6kHz rectangular wave, then this impedance is lower because a rectangular wave also consists of many additional higher frequency sine waves (says Mr. Fourier). Approximately 71Ω

So the question becomes: Why W4 of Tr2 cannot handle a 71Ω load?

Do you enable any other loads on your secondary windings?  If yes then disconnect them and report what happens.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2012, 09:37:41 PM by verpies »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #314 on: October 09, 2012, 01:43:07 PM »
@d3x0r, verpies
In Dally video, observe that he turns on the inverter first, then the nano pulser, and then the load. Maybe it is a problem of inrush current at power on. In my setup, I use a different inverter, that presents a similar problem. The nano pulser frequency has to be adjusted to the resonant frequency of L2 and C at the vco. The inverter frequency does not need to be at that frequency. What I can see on my setup is a 4.6 KHz sine wave with a smaller wave riding over it. I still cannot get a reasonable amplitude, but the effects are there.

 

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