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Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6525 on: November 07, 2014, 11:43:00 AM »

Questions:

Do we know if the new setup really resonates at 34KHz?
Do we know if the new setup really uses 1.2uF capacitor?
Does this mean that the 18.75m (or less) bifilar coil has an inductance of only 18uH?
If so, how does one get such a low inductance with a 18.75m 2 layers coil? (bifilar way, but in opposite directions?)

Regards itsu

I have noticed once that I had two resonant points while tuning. One was the calculated value according to the classic equation, and one higher frequency like it was a mirror of the first. Perhaps it was a harmonic. You can use a coil as the one you say, but Tesla bifilar is far more effective in terms of radiant storage.

itsu

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« Reply #6526 on: November 07, 2014, 11:44:39 AM »

The spark length peaks around the frequency I tuned the Kacher - 1.316MHz, same as grenade frequency.

Voltage is around 1KV and current drawn by Kacher at tuned frequency is 0.68A. The voltage figure is not reliable as my HV probe (home made) is loading the secondary too much.

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Hoppy

Thanks Hoppy,  i meant to ask the input voltage/current   :)

Regards Itsu

Hoppy

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« Reply #6527 on: November 07, 2014, 11:46:41 AM »
Thanks Hoppy,  i meant to ask the input voltage/current   :)

Regards Itsu

Input voltage is 24V and current at tuned frequency is 0.68A.

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Hoppy

skywalker66

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« Reply #6528 on: November 07, 2014, 11:48:12 AM »
All,

here it is presented that the latest Ruslan 24V system works with these value's"

http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg421510/#msg421510

push-pull osc:  34.15KHz
series cap 1.2uF
bifilar coil 18.75m (2 layers Tesla way)

When using an online resonance calculator like:  http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm

it shows that for reaching 34.15KHz, with a capacitor of 1.2uF the inductance of the bifilar coil needs to be 18.26uH
This is very low as i measured my 3 layers bifilar coil to be 246uF (18.75m)

Now that i have 2 layers, so about 12m, it still measures 111uH.
With 1.2uF it will resonate at 13KHz which is far away from the mentioned 34.15KHz

Questions:

Do we know if the new setup really resonates at 34KHz?
Do we know if the new setup really uses 1.2uF capacitor?
Does this mean that the 18.75m (or less) bifilar coil has an inductance of only 18uH?
If so, how does one get such a low inductance with a 18.75m 2 layers coil? (bifilar way, but in opposite directions?)

 
Regards itsu

Do we know if the new setup really resonates at 34KHz?

YES ! He show this freq. on his freq. meter (34.15)

Do we know if the new setup really uses 1.2uF capacitor?
NO. More like 2 x 0.47 series + a small one white cap for tuning which means about 0.235 -- 0.300 uF let say.

Does this mean that the 18.75m (or less) bifilar coil has an inductance of only 18uH?
Absolutely NO! That 18.75m is more like a myth, Ruslan never show a 3 layer inductor on his grenade coil, but 2 layer which is not fit to 18.75m. You check you self this mater.
Now if we do math for F=34.15KHz, C=0.25uf (more or less) result L=86.88uH so is close to what Ruslan inductor appear.

Cheers !

Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6529 on: November 07, 2014, 11:57:08 AM »
All,


it shows that for reaching 34.15KHz, with a capacitor of 1.2uF the inductance of the bifilar coil needs to be 18.26uH
This is very low as i measured my 3 layers bifilar coil to be 246uF (18.75m)

Now that i have 2 layers, so about 12m, it still measures 111uH.
With 1.2uF it will resonate at 13KHz which is far away from the mentioned 34.15KHz

Questions:

Do we know if the new setup really resonates at 34KHz?
Do we know if the new setup really uses 1.2uF capacitor?
Does this mean that the 18.75m (or less) bifilar coil has an inductance of only 18uH?
If so, how does one get such a low inductance with a 18.75m 2 layers coil? (bifilar way, but in opposite directions?)

 
Regards itsu

I cannot see how reaching 34.15KHz, with a capacitor of 1.2uF is possible using the coil specification we have been given. Its around 0.5uF.

IMO, we don't know anything we are given on a circuit diagrams truly relates to the claimed self-runners we see on Ruslan's videos. Remember that these circuit diagrams are not drawn by Ruslan.

Regards
Hoppy

Edit: Checked with my coil, its as Skywalker suggests around 0.3uF

skywalker66

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« Reply #6530 on: November 07, 2014, 12:12:19 PM »
Hopy,

Ruslan showed in one of his videos hand- draw schematic which I attached.

URFA experimented with this schematic and get that intriguing effect.

Hoppy

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« Reply #6531 on: November 07, 2014, 12:19:46 PM »
Hopy,

Ruslan showed in one of his videos hand- draw schematic which I attached.

URFA experimented with this schematic and get that intriguing effect.

Yes, this is the hand-drawn schematic I based my build on and is the only one from him to my knowledge. I differentiate between a circuit diagram and a circuit schematic.  ;)

It may be that more capacitance is needed once a proper earthing system is established, which might account for why Ruslan shows paralleled 0.47uF caps in his videos??

skywalker66

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« Reply #6532 on: November 07, 2014, 12:35:54 PM »
It may be that more capacitance is needed once a proper earthing system is established, which might account for why Ruslan shows paralleled 0.47uF caps in his videos??

It is more like a combination of series-parallel caps (0.47 series with a group of 0.47||0.22||0.1 or so), look closely picture attached. Equivalent capacitance will be near 0.3uf.

Hoppy

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« Reply #6533 on: November 07, 2014, 12:39:35 PM »
It is more like a combination of series-parallel caps (0.47 series with a group of 0.47||0.22||0.1 or so), look closely picture attached. Equivalent capacitance will be near 0.3uf.

Yes, you are right! - good eyeballing.  :)

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« Reply #6534 on: November 07, 2014, 12:43:52 PM »
Hi Mag & all,

The PWM frequency is 21.9KHz. As I previously commented, the pulsing is primarily an interaction between the grenade and inductor coils and only appears when the inductor coil is tuned to resonance, max voltage amplitude across the cap (480 / 490nF). The lamp pulses even without the Kacher powered up. However, when the Kacher is running, the amplitude of the secondary coil voltage does affect the pulse rate. Slight adjustment of the PWM frequency either side of the 'sweet spot', in my case about 21.9KHz provides full control over the pulse frequency. It may be that the onset of lamp pulsing is a convenient indicator as to when the inductor coil hits the 60th harmonic of the grenade coil. As a side issue to this, I have attached a scope shot to show how the waveform (scoped IGBT drain to source) is affected by the Kacher HV oscillations.

hi Hoppy,

Thanks for the reply Hoppy.This is getting interesting Hoppy.
I have verified that to get this pulsing effect you were indeed using 60th Sub-harmonics of 1.316Mhz.

I just entered 1316000 hz into the excel harmonics calculator at the sub-harmonics section and i got 21.933khz at the 60th sub-harmonics which tallied with your pwm generator.Nice...... :D

This is important piece of verification for me or for us since i am about to start assembling the antenna later which is combined with my wireless 60th sub-harmonics generator which is sync with kacher.

 

It's just 7:40pm here i just woke from my 1 hour cat nap to give me energy for the rest of the night till 1am.
 

I have previously mentioned about the 1/2 wave at 100th or 120th sub-harmonics which will be around 12khz...15khz which the L/C resonance of the 25 turns with 1uf or 1.2uf will fall within that range.

I understand without the L/C resonance eg 470nf at around 22khz the kapanadze coil won't even light a bulb.

If you recall URFA played with kacher in order to light the bulb without it bulb won't even stay lit for long. or even power on.

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Although i am unable to co-related to the old Akula device.I know he was using around 0.8uf...1.8uf 2000volts  microwave capacitor in the past from the 3 turns.Just take a look at the common range of microwave capacitor value.


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« Reply #6535 on: November 07, 2014, 12:52:03 PM »
So, until now we can conclude that Ruslan tried combinations of caps till get a series resonance frequeny which match 50-th subharmonic of kacer.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6536 on: November 07, 2014, 12:54:34 PM »
It is more like a combination of series-parallel caps (0.47 series with a group of 0.47||0.22||0.1 or so), look closely picture attached. Equivalent capacitance will be near 0.3uf.

hi skywallker66,

If you connected 4 capacitor in parallel the uf value actually increases.

Please don't be confuse with "RESISTOR" if you combine 4 resistor in parallel only then it's resistive value will be lowered.



That piece of picture from video was already reverse engineered by me to derive estimate value at  (0.47uf+0.47uf)+0.22uf+0.1uf.To get around 1.3uf which tallies with the circuit diagram at 1.2uf.

 ;D

 

Hoppy

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« Reply #6537 on: November 07, 2014, 12:58:33 PM »
So, until now we can conclude that Ruslan tried combinations of caps till get a series resonance frequeny which match 50-th subharmonic of kacer.

Don't you mean 60th harmonic? Kacher and Grernade are matched.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #6538 on: November 07, 2014, 01:05:04 PM »
Questions:

Do we know if the new setup really resonates at 34KHz?
Do we know if the new setup really uses 1.2uF capacitor?
Does this mean that the 18.75m (or less) bifilar coil has an inductance of only 18uH?
If so, how does one get such a low inductance with a 18.75m 2 layers coil? (bifilar way, but in opposite directions?)

 
Regards itsu
To answer your questions you need to get starting points first:
1) The frequency grenade coil is resonating with ground connected and BEMF (Tesla coil or similar source) oscillations are picked up from antenna. (the the signal source should have ground isolated by diode and earth is negative side)
2) The frequency ratio between signal source and grenade coil resonance (should be 1/3rd as Ruslan mentioned)
3) The induction heater circuit frequency ratio to grenade coil (1/50th, 1/60th and down to 1/100th with division step 2)

When you have numbers for the list above your questions will have answers :)

skywalker66

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« Reply #6539 on: November 07, 2014, 01:10:11 PM »
Don't you mean 60th harmonic? Kacher and Grernade are matched.

No, according his last video. Ruslan showed 1.736MHz for Kacer and 34.15KHz for push-pull, and he mentioned something about 50th subharmonic in that video . Now you can do the math for yourself.