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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11805152 times)

itsu

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« Reply #6465 on: November 05, 2014, 10:24:51 AM »
Itsu, can you put curent transformer  now were is red dot, betwen one end inductor and capasitor?

I can, but that point is/was grounded as per the latest diagrams!

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« Reply #6466 on: November 05, 2014, 10:27:44 AM »
Itsu and can you scan like in schematic in this post again, but first oscilioscope probe to one end conected who grounded to uper dot, then grounded end of oscilioscope conected to buttom red dot? Because oscilioscope one end is grounded riht?


http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422138/#msg422138

Ok,  will try tonight,  yes the ground lead of the probe is grounded at the same common ground i have.

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« Reply #6467 on: November 05, 2014, 10:49:47 AM »
Guys I need your experience.
First of all, this current transformer that you use in the 3T line, doesn't alter the phase of the line? Do you think that this is the case? Well, lets describe what I have implement until now so to understand what happens to my construction so to be easier to track my mistakes.

I use the same schematic as Ruslan's handrawing. The 3T line consisted only of the tuning cap and the inductor. The 28T line is as you see it in the schematic. 28T in series with grenade, and at the other side the diode charging the 10uF cap through a choke.

After tuning it and fixing some directions of my coils, I managed to pass the high frequency oscillation into my main grenade line. 200V pk-pk from katcher exactly at the center of the pulse. My initial problem which I faced yesterday was that the imposition of the signal to the low freq signal, didn't affect my bulbs at all! See attachment. Then I put an other diode from grenade to ground. Anode to grenade, cathode to ground. The resulted waveform changed a little and I noticed that a very weak energy added to my bulbs but it is not as strong interaction as at Urfa's video. I suspect that my katcher needs to re wounded on the other direction. But, I think that what ever winding direction you do to your katcher, the result is the same. Only negative particles at the antenna. Is that true? Did you notice something different by changing direction at kacher side?

First set of waveforms is the low freq signal at the cathode of the diode before the 10uF cap, and the voltage at the 3T line as taken at the leads of the cap. Second set of waveforms when katcher on fire. Third waveform that I will attach later cause I don't have an available shot right now, is when I added the second diode between grenade and ground.
Do you have something to note?

   

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« Reply #6468 on: November 05, 2014, 10:58:06 AM »
As i see it, the katcher high freq voltage, imposed exactly at the middle. If I could move it to the upper side then I will have an average increment. But the way it is imposed the average is the same as zero. I wish my English to be better. 

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« Reply #6469 on: November 05, 2014, 11:09:21 AM »
This is with the added diode. Nothing extremely different but as I told you there is a small increment of my bulb light, with a small decrement of current at the input!. As you see this time katcher's signal moved a little to the zero line, so average voltage changed a little. How can I move this oscillation on the top of the low freq signal? Some diodes missing I think.

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« Reply #6470 on: November 05, 2014, 12:54:26 PM »
Hi itsu,

You might be interested to know what is the frequency of the PLL used in the attached circuit.

By punching in some numbers as attached in this Online PLL Calculator
http://www.changpuak.ch/electronics/calc_03.php

We can see estimate Min frequency,Typical Frequency and Maximum Frequency by using 4.7nf /4700pf capacitor for 4046 as attached.

The current transformer you are working on is also the likely AFC sensor for the LM393."If anyone still can recall the block diagram from Akula months back containing LM393 comparator and PLL"

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Another area i need you to understand to align with my thinking as mentioned in my previous post less than 24hours ago.

To know the estimate LC resonance of 1.2uf capacitor in series with 25 turns x 2 bifilar.
http://www.pronine.ca/lcf.htm

I just put 1.2uf for cap and 124.5uH base on reading for my winding 25 x 2 turns bifilar.
I have attached to show LC reading it's 13khz.

itsu please read carefully-


This is the interesting part using the harmonics calculator punch in your  kacher coil resonance value at 1.3Mhz and take a look at the 100th sub-harmonics it reveals as 13khz.
The Pwm generator as indirectly provided by 4046 PLL  at around 28khz(estimate typical frequency or eg: 26khz at 50th sub-harmonics)

We take that 13khz x 2 =26khz (To show you the Pwm generator is running at 2 x the resonance frequency of 1.2uf and 124.5uH at 13khz.)

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Lastly i have once again proven there is no direct LC resonance involved for this device.Put it simply the bulb should not be lit at all if there is no power to kacher/tesla coil.
But be surprised if kacher is turned on as i mentioned previously all the harmonics at various point is inter-related.

To derive the kacher /tesla coil frequency is the most important part eg:7Mhz divide by 4 .

The fully assembled multi-layer kapanadze coil together with 25 turns optimal resonance point eg:7Mhz is the one which ultimately determine the "Sub-harmonics frequency" of every other section of the kapanadze device.



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Determine frequency of my assembled kapanadze coil and important setup guide.
This is after connecting the wire top of 25 turns together with the top of multilayer coil and both wire along with ground of my scope and signal generator is connected to Earth.Then apply signal at 1 available wire from 25 turns.Scope is connected to 1 available wire from multilayer coil.



6.64785Mhz  (Optimal frequency of fully assembled multilayer kapanadze coil with 25 turns bifilar winding.Careful tuning also reveal at this frequency it starts to constantly vibrate to higher voltage in mV better than than the rest of the frequency which is already at optimal resonance)

6.64785/4=
1.661962Mhz (My kacher frequency to be oscillating at with antenna attached)

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60th sub-harmonics version-

27.699khz (60th sub-harmonics PWM generator)
13.849khz (120th sub-harmonics.Capacitor value selection base on-LC resonance of "capacitor" and 25 turns x 2 bifilar at 3 turns)

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50th sub-harmonics version-

33.239khz (50th sub-harmonics PWM generator.*Ruslan version)

16.619khz (100th sub-harmonics.Capacitor selection-LC resonance of "capacitor" and 25 turns x 2 bifilar at 3 turns)


(The divide by 60 PWM generator of mine can also be converted to divide by 50 as well and both case it's locked to tesla coil radiated frequency )
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 03:06:04 PM by magpwr »

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« Reply #6471 on: November 05, 2014, 02:09:42 PM »
Hi Jeg!

Can you tell what is your grenade self resonant freq, katcher freq., and 3T+cap+inductor series resonance frequency (push-pull freq.) ?

Also you can try connect kacher negative (ie transistor emitter) to ground thru a diode ( kathode at emitter and anode at ground) not directly, and notice if there are any difference on your scope.

Cheers !
     

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« Reply #6472 on: November 05, 2014, 02:18:51 PM »
Hi Jeg!

Can you tell what is your grenade self resonant freq, katcher freq., and 3T+cap+inductor series resonance frequency (push-pull freq.) ?

Also you can try connect kacher negative (ie transistor emitter) to ground thru a diode ( kathode at emitter and anode at ground) not directly, and notice if there are any difference on your scope.

Cheers !
   
Nice idea, i will test it. My frequencies are 1MHz and 16,6KHz

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« Reply #6473 on: November 05, 2014, 04:09:06 PM »
I can, but that point is/was grounded as per the latest diagrams!

Regards Itsu
I think no meter grounded or not, you can remove ground. Maybe then you get phase shift like in Ruslan osciliogram between sine and pulses, because now, in you picture is no phase shift.
Thank you.  :)

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« Reply #6474 on: November 05, 2014, 04:13:33 PM »

After tuning it and fixing some directions of my coils, I managed to pass the high frequency oscillation into my main grenade line. 200V pk-pk from katcher exactly at the center of the pulse. My initial problem which I faced yesterday was that the imposition of the signal to the low freq signal, didn't affect my bulbs at all! See attachment. Then I put an other diode from grenade to ground. Anode to grenade, cathode to ground. The resulted waveform changed a little and I noticed that a very weak energy added to my bulbs but it is not as strong interaction as at Urfa's video. I suspect that my katcher needs to re wounded on the other direction. But, I think that what ever winding direction you do to your katcher, the result is the same. Only negative particles at the antenna. Is that true? Did you notice something different by changing direction at kacher side?

I not see differnce, that is kacher winding direction.

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« Reply #6475 on: November 05, 2014, 07:01:12 PM »
I not see differnce, that is kacher winding direction.

Hi Menof how are you doing :)
You mean that either cw or ccw it outputs the same particle sign?

By the way. The choke which connects with that cap at the above drawing is 100uH. This choke is responsible for charging the 10uF cap. Is it possible to charge full the capacitor during each cycle? No. It has to be less than 1.5uH at 33Khz or less than 5uH at 16Khz.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2014, 09:25:23 PM by Jeg »

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« Reply #6476 on: November 05, 2014, 09:32:59 PM »
Ok,  will try tonight,  yes the ground lead of the probe is grounded at the same common ground i have.

Regards Itsu

ok, done, see screenshot.

Bifilar (tesla) was 13m in 2 layers around the Grenade.

White trace  is with ground lead of the scope probe at upper dot,
yellow trace is with ground lead of the scope probe at bottom dot.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #6477 on: November 05, 2014, 10:17:19 PM »
I think no meter grounded or not, you can remove ground. Maybe then you get phase shift like in Ruslan osciliogram between sine and pulses, because now, in you picture is no phase shift.
Thank you.  :)

Ok,  now i see what you mean,  in the below picture taken from this Ruslan Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8RcRlzk16w,
it can be seen that the SECOND trace show without the Kacher activated, the current (spiky signal) through the 3 turn secondary/bifilar coil is trailing 90°
the sine wave which is the voltage from the Grenade before the FWBR and Cap.
A trailing current means no resonance (as confirmed by the low voltages seen) and at the inductive side of the resonance.

While in the FIRST trace we see suddenly when the Kacher is activated, the voltage now 180° out of phase with the current spikes.

I tried the same (ungrounded), but even when detuning out of resonance, the current spikes and the voltage stay more or less in the same phase relation with or
without the Kacher.

(it could be that one of the probes was reversed (on the current transformer f.i.), which means that with the kacher activated (first trace)
the voltage and current ARE in phase, and without the Kacher active (second trace) the current is LEADING 90° the voltage, meaning
out of resonance at the capacitive side!!) 

Regards Itsu



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« Reply #6478 on: November 05, 2014, 10:43:12 PM »
Today I've established that the 1/4 wave frequency for my grenade coil is 1.316MHz (5.26MHz / 4). With PWM running at 21.9KHz (1/60th), I can now get a sharp resonance on the inductor with 492nF of capacitance. I have found that my 10W load lamp will pulsate slowly when the Kacher frequency is very close to 1.316MHz when finely adjusted with a ferrite rod inside the Kacher secondary coil tube. This pulsing looks quite like the that I've seen on past videos of claimed self-runners. The pulsing varies in frequency depending on how close to resonance the inductor circuit becomes. The voltage across inductor cap rises sharply to over 400V and the rectfied voltage at the input of the SMPS is around 115V with 10W lamp load connected. The mustache waveform from the current transformer becomes very sharp and the tip aligns perfectly with the peak of the voltage sine wave. With previous tuning attempts, the tip has been slightly misaligned with the peak of the sine wave. I do not have an external earth wire connected yet but when the supply is disconnected from the device, I get a couple of flashes of the lamp after disconnection.

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« Reply #6479 on: November 05, 2014, 11:18:34 PM »
Today I've established that the 1/4 wave frequency for my grenade coil is 1.316MHz (5.26MHz / 4). With PWM running at 21.9KHz (1/60th), I can now get a sharp resonance on the inductor with 492nF of capacitance. I have found that my 10W load lamp will pulsate slowly when the Kacher frequency is very close to 1.316MHz when finely adjusted with a ferrite rod inside the Kacher secondary coil tube. This pulsing looks quite like the that I've seen on past videos of claimed self-runners. The pulsing varies in frequency depending on how close to resonance the inductor circuit becomes. The voltage across inductor cap rises sharply to over 400V and the rectfied voltage at the input of the SMPS is around 115V with 10W lamp load connected. The mustache waveform from the current transformer becomes very sharp and the tip aligns perfectly with the peak of the voltage sine wave. With previous tuning attempts, the tip has been slightly misaligned with the peak of the sine wave. I do not have an external earth wire connected yet but when the supply is disconnected from the device, I get a couple of flashes of the lamp after disconnection.

hi Hoppy,

Thanks for reporting this latest findings of valuable interest.Hopefully we can see a short video soon to watch the bulb pulsing.

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