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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8327584 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5970 on: October 22, 2014, 02:13:17 PM »
That's odd. Your kacher driver seems to be behaving quite differently from mine.
I have a fair bit longer secondary wire than you and I am getting a higher operating
frequency. Maybe a difference in the kacher driver circuit itself. I am using the common
kacher circuit arrangement with two base resistors acting as a voltage divider to set the
bias point on the base. Bottom of the secondary goes to the base. Is that what you are using?
Which transistor are you using? I'm using the 2SC5200.
All the best...


I'm using the Fairchild FJL4315OTU. I have a 10K pot and 1k5 divider and 5V zener pair with common mode input choke. Bottom of secondary goes to base as with yours. I think the coil turn spacing will make the main difference between our setups.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5970 on: October 22, 2014, 02:13:17 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5971 on: October 22, 2014, 03:41:10 PM »

I'm using the Fairchild FJL4315OTU. I have a 10K pot and 1k5 divider and 5V zener pair with common mode input choke. Bottom of secondary goes to base as with yours. I think the coil turn spacing will make the main difference between our setups.

Hi Hoppy. Ok, maybe something along that line.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5972 on: October 22, 2014, 10:36:18 PM »
 Here is an explanation of  coils by by Robotustra of Ruslan granade coil..
 
http://www.realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/134930-ustanovka-ruslana-kulabuxova.html?start=2970
 
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5973 on: October 23, 2014, 07:07:53 AM »
Hi

Simplest method for measuring shortening coefficient cable and cable wave impendance !!  :)
Instead of sensitive RF-milivolt meter you can use oscilloscope. RF-signal generator unchangeable.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5974 on: October 23, 2014, 09:21:09 AM »
Acca,  thanks for this very nice explaination by Robotustra.

Together with the video links provided by Enjoykin earlier about Akula explaining these steps it must be a piece of cake....


However, the translated (in English) subtitles on those Akula video do hardly make sense, so are useless.
So still we (non Russians) have not really a clue what is being explained in those video's


Probably because of this i was not able to replicate the instructions from Akula to determine the "ground resonance frequency"
of MY local ground. 

(Magpwr, there you have the meaning of "land frequency" you mentioned earlier, not the Mains frequency in a country, but a poor translation
into English of the "ground (earth) resonance frequency").

Using his initial methode to hook up my FG and scope probe to 1 side of a coil leaving the other side open (having the grounded FG and scope
ground leads connected together) shows an almost flat frequency response over a 1KHz to 10MHz range.
No peaks in amplitude.

Then when grounding the other end of the coil has almost no influence on this flat frequency range, some dips, but no peaks.

So i doubt this is a usefull procedure, and/or my ground is not good (enough).

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5975 on: October 23, 2014, 09:35:32 AM »
I try found ground frenquencies so caled. And found that my short wire coils resonate all almost on same frenquency, on about 900 kiloherc (if coil frenquency without ground about 2-4 megaherc). If coil frenquency without ground is 600 kiloherc. then addading ground, coil resonate on about 100 kiloherc. So if coil frenquency quit hight (2-4) megaherc, then addading ground resonance gose down to same about frenquency: 900 kiloherc. But if you made from coil 2-4 megaherc kacher or tesla coil, then it not resonate on 900 kiloherc with ground, it resonate on 2-4 kiloherc, and that coil who resonate on 100 kiloherc testing with akula metod, if made from it tsla coil, then it resonate on about 600 kiloherc, I remeber...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5976 on: October 23, 2014, 09:47:26 AM »
My test schematic. Osccilioscope were line is punctir can be conected to ground, then signal on oscilioscope much better, but resonant frenquencies not change on that.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5977 on: October 23, 2014, 09:52:03 AM »
I try found ground frenquencies so caled. And found that my short wire coils resonate all almost on same frenquency, on about 900 kiloherc (if coil frenquency without ground about 2-4 megaherc). If coil frenquency without ground is 600 kiloherc. then addading ground, coil resonate on about 100 kiloherc. So if coil frenquency quit hight (2-4) megaherc, then addading ground resonance gose down to same about frenquency: 900 kiloherc. But if you made from coil 2-4 megaherc kacher or tesla coil, then it not resonate on 900 kiloherc with ground, it resonate on 2-4 kiloherc, and that coil who resonate on 100 kiloherc testing with akula metod, if made from it tsla coil, then it resonate on about 600 kiloherc, I remeber...

Thanks MenofFather,

but did you use the method described by Akula to measure the resonance frequency peaks of your coil??

It does not work with me.
When using my normal methode to measure the resonance of a coil (2 turn wrap around the coil to be measured and connecting
my FG to it and probing the coil with my scope) i DO see some sharp resonance peaks, also around 900KHz and 2 and 3MHz.

Grounding the end of the coil will change these peaks frequencies, but when using another coil, again i have different frequencies.
So not a specific "ground resonance frequency" (like 1.8MHz) to be found on MY ground.

Regards Itsu 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5978 on: October 23, 2014, 10:16:09 AM »
Itsu Akula has in his dacha laboratory 3 grounds.

One for instruments oscilloscopes. spectral analysers etc. other independent for tunning his generators and third for home devices.

Dont use same ground for oscilloscope, signal generator and your generator because return currents and noise. If you have flast response  - something is wrong with ground. In any case you need make new two grounds.

Reg.

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« Reply #5978 on: October 23, 2014, 10:16:09 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5979 on: October 23, 2014, 10:41:20 AM »
As we see from Kapanadze and Akula videos, the ground wires are long and length of wire may be a critical factor in achieving tuning to a specific Telluric frequency. Having separate equipment ground makes sense as Enjoykin points out. Maybe incremental adjustment of ground wire length to a given coil setup may prove more helpful in establishing a specific 'sweet spot' that can be identified as a responsive earth frequency. However, it is becoming clear that we need specific guidance on tuning to the ground and preferably well translated into English!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5980 on: October 23, 2014, 10:48:30 AM »
Thanks MenofFather,

but did you use the method described by Akula to measure the resonance frequency peaks of your coil??

It does not work with me.
When using my normal methode to measure the resonance of a coil (2 turn wrap around the coil to be measured and connecting
my FG to it and probing the coil with my scope) i DO see some sharp resonance peaks, also around 900KHz and 2 and 3MHz.

Grounding the end of the coil will change these peaks frequencies, but when using another coil, again i have different frequencies.
So not a specific "ground resonance frequency" (like 1.8MHz) to be found on MY ground.

Regards Itsu
I only not ground oscilioscope (or can not ground it), maybe letter tray ground and generator. I say, I found frenquency on  about 900 kiloherc for all short wire coils (20-25 meters coil wire lenght).
Akula not say, that if he graund diferent coils, frenquency is same, but it must not have big diference. But I think if he use coil of long wire, then he not get 1.8 megaherc frenquency.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5981 on: October 23, 2014, 11:56:22 AM »
Acca,  thanks for this very nice explaination by Robotustra.

Together with the video links provided by Enjoykin earlier about Akula explaining these steps it must be a piece of cake....


However, the translated (in English) subtitles on those Akula video do hardly make sense, so are useless.
So still we (non Russians) have not really a clue what is being explained in those video's


Probably because of this i was not able to replicate the instructions from Akula to determine the "ground resonance frequency"
of MY local ground. 

(Magpwr, there you have the meaning of "land frequency" you mentioned earlier, not the Mains frequency in a country, but a poor translation
into English of the "ground (earth) resonance frequency").

Using his initial methode to hook up my FG and scope probe to 1 side of a coil leaving the other side open (having the grounded FG and scope
ground leads connected together) shows an almost flat frequency response over a 1KHz to 10MHz range.
No peaks in amplitude.

Then when grounding the other end of the coil has almost no influence on this flat frequency range, some dips, but no peaks.

So i doubt this is a usefull procedure, and/or my ground is not good (enough).

Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

Later on i have mentioned that we need not worry about the frequency of the land or Ground frequency after i watched this "not so useful video,just Eye Candy" from Akula.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awy9OgRd-D8

Just picture this in your mind if Akula travel to Germany to sell the 20watt stuff to the Chinese investor from China.

Do you think "Akula need to travel to China to do a land survey for the ground frequency" before he can sell the device to those investors in Germany.

Answer is Hard "NO".Which is why i mentioned previously  this is good news for us because we need not worry too much about specific frequency for a given land.

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In the meantime i have fully created this attached circuit which will just follow tesla coil frequency."This is always locked to the tesla coil resonance frequency and produce 1/60th the frequency of tesla"
Now before even proceeding with actual experiment i have already ensured there is no possibility of frequency runaway between tesla and yoke driver.Since circuit lock everything in place.
My 1st headache is solved.

I have to add the phase shifting stage so that frequency from the tesla coil and output from yoke would be aligned,just need to tweak a little at RV3.

There is 2 easy method to obtain signal one is short wire act as antenna place near tesla coil couple of cm away with protection 2xdiodes 1n4148 from clock input to supply 4017 supply rail.
Another method is to use small RF toroid design to work up to 2Mhz or 3Mhz at least.A wire from collector from tesla coil transistor is going through this toroid with around 5..7 turns.
This is fed to clk input of 4017 via resistor.

The output of TC4452 needs to be fed to mosfet or IGBT instead of directly connecting to transformer.Please ignore transformer stage in virtual.

I find that 4017 is less noisy than the 74HC4017 for the square wave output although the max frequency is only 2.4Mhz as per signal generator test.
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There is limitation in virtual i can't do capture and save as REF for the scope to show everyone the perfect frequency alignment.

Now i can proceed to the next stage on where to plan to inject nanosecond pulse in kv for the time being. :)

Since i just received my large nanocrystalline toroid it's just the pending  winding to be done for now.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5982 on: October 23, 2014, 12:46:40 PM »
Akula not say, that if he graund diferent coils, frenquency is same, but it must not have big diference.

Exactly. What robotustra wrote was his own ideas about how he thinks you might
be able to find a 'ground frequency'. It is not necessarily what Akula really meant or did.
Also, I have noticed that both Akula and Ruslan include lots of their own ideas and interpretations
in their various videos and comments, but this doesn't mean that they are always right.
They were/are also likely trying to figure out various things, and their own ideas of how things are working
or should be working are not always necessarily right. Sometimes they could be quite wrong.

This may well be why Ruslan keeps telling people to do lots of experimenting for them selves,
that he can't give step by step instructions, as there are likely various things that Ruslan as yet can
not explain or does not understand himself. Same for Akula.  Akula seems to have a pretty good
idea what he needs to do to make a self runner, but that doesn't mean he really fully or
properly understands everything. (This is of course assuming that that no trickery has been involved by these guys).

The best anyone can do is keep smiling and keep experimenting and see where it leads. :)
IMO, when it comes to this stuff, taking different comments from various sources for granted or relying on
assumptions about how things must be working, no matter what the source is or how authoritatively they state it,
is probably not advisable. If something really is true you should be able to prove it to yourself in your own experiments.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5983 on: October 23, 2014, 01:34:22 PM »
hi itsu,

Later on i have mentioned that we need not worry about the frequency of the land or Ground frequency after i watched this "not so useful video,just Eye Candy" from Akula.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awy9OgRd-D8

Just picture this in your mind if Akula travel to Germany to sell the 20watt stuff to the Chinese investor from China.

Do you think "Akula need to travel to China to do a land survey for the ground frequency" before he can sell the device to those investors in Germany.

Answer is Hard "NO".Which is why i mentioned previously  this is good news for us because we need not worry too much about specific frequency for a given land.

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I do think you have a point and I'm sure Kapanadze never went to great lengths with a scope, or even used a scope to work out his optimum ground frequency. As Void says, it appears to be more a case of trial and error, in the face of so many conflicting ideas and statements as to what is correct or incorrect. Next step, a few days / months / years in the garden shed looking for the magic. Oh happy days!  :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5984 on: October 23, 2014, 03:45:31 PM »
Next step, a few days / months / years in the garden shed looking for the magic. Oh happy days!  :)

 :)


 

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