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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8338594 times)

Offline Jeg

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« Reply #5805 on: October 16, 2014, 06:29:57 PM »
hi everyone,

Harmonics solved
Well done Mag! Nice and simple method. Is it possible to check something more? Ruslan said the low freq is the 1/100th of the resonant freq of grenade. If this is 1.7Mhz, then low freq would be 17khz. Can you check how they appear both on your scope?

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« Reply #5806 on: October 16, 2014, 06:51:31 PM »
Well done Mag! Nice and simple method. Is it possible to check something more? Ruslan said the low freq is the 1/100th of the resonant freq of grenade. If this is 1.7Mhz, then low freq would be 17khz. Can you check how they appear both on your scope?

hi Jeg,

Before i sleep.
I have done a quick test base on what you said.1.7Mhz and 1.7Mhz.

Result-Although i can see the alignment from top to bottom (green as shown in previous attachment)but the side of the 1.7Mhz is sticking out so this part is not aligned.

Don't you have a digital scope to try?

By the way recall Akula mentioned it's pointless to go below 18khz if it's a air coil."Base on my <3 or 4 weeks old posting"

That's all for today.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5807 on: October 16, 2014, 06:54:23 PM »
Hi Void
Yes he means this 25+25 inductor. In an other Ruslan's post on realstrunik he spoke about 11 meters of cable when his grenade at the time was about 33meters. So 1/3 wavelength will have the same result.

Hi Jeg. Thanks for the reply. Ruslan stated his grenade coil was 37.5m for that coil I believe.
37.5 / 2 = 18.75m. I don't think Ruslan has mentioned anything about using a 1/3 ratio.
Some things Ruslan has said previously appear to be changing recently however. It does seem
that he is now saying the bifilar primary winding wire length on the grenade coil should be 1/2
the length of the grenade coil winding. Let's see if T-1000 or another Russian speaker can clarify about this. :)
All the best...



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« Reply #5808 on: October 16, 2014, 07:05:44 PM »
In other drawing.
Itsu, now you see diference betwen your conection and Ruslan?

Hi MenofFather,

yes, i see what you mean, but how you found out thats the way Ruslan has connected it from that small picture is beyond me.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5809 on: October 16, 2014, 07:10:34 PM »

I am now able to conclude on how to derive either the resonance frequency of the multi layer coil or obtain the needed frequency for the tesla coil.
But the easy approach is to first know your resonance frequency of the multilayer coil eg:26.1khz,27khz or something that fits within this range 18khz....37khz



But but but, the multi layer coil (2x 48, 2x 24, 2x 12) does not resonante at  range 18khz....37khz, thats the 2x 25 turn pickup coil with the 0.47uF
capacitor in series!

My  multi layer coil (2x 48, 2x 24, 2x 12) resonates (without any capacitor attached) at severall points starting at 950KHz - 4MHz.

And looking at your screenshot, i see a small high frequency sine wave of about 1.620MHz, and a bigger sine wave half of the frequency,
meaning 810KHz, not 27KHz or am i missing something?



Regards Itsu
« Last Edit: October 16, 2014, 11:05:31 PM by itsu »

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« Reply #5810 on: October 16, 2014, 08:24:28 PM »
Hi MenofFather,

yes, i see what you mean, but how you found out thats the way Ruslan has connected it from that small picture is beyond me.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5811 on: October 16, 2014, 09:03:44 PM »
Hi Jeg. Thanks for the reply. Ruslan stated his grenade coil was 37.5m for that coil I believe.
37.5 / 2 = 18.75m. I don't think Ruslan has mentioned anything about using a 1/3 ratio.
Some things Ruslan has said previously appear to be changing recently however. It does seem
that he is now saying the bifilar primary winding wire length on the grenade coil should be 1/2
the length of the grenade coil winding. Let's see if T-1000 or another Russian speaker can clarify about this. :)
All the best...

I remember that he was speaking about a grenade of 33 m wavelength. On the other hand he speaks about a diameter of 5cm which results a 32.2m wavelength in this specific form of 48-24-12. Close to 33 and 11.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5812 on: October 16, 2014, 09:04:48 PM »
Hi guyz.

   magpwr,
Well done on the part of Resonance and understanding the Harmonics on frequencies for the Tesla coil and grenade coil. This is it.
This will be the example that everyone needs to follow and this has to be achieved in order for the device to work and most of other devices too. Synchronization

T-1000:
Thnks for the conference notes, they help alot. Got most of the answers from Realstrannik.
   

Hoppy,
yes the  PVC I use  is 50mm diameter (5cm)  both Tesla and grenade.

TheGrenade coiling length is ~21cm long. ( length seen from above)
telsa is about 15cm long.
But any length can be adjusted, just need to find the right frequency , harmonics and sync.

   Void:
well for what I can tell is the  winding of the Bifilar primary on grenade (x2 25) is that bifilar is same direction wound as the 2x 24 layer of  grenade, CW. Yet how you layer them ontop of eachother is different though, see the schematic as we all have it.  It can be seen that it it's 1/2 of the grenade too. about ~ 10.5 cm length



Btw guyz If someone does not want to rewind the grenade to exactly 37.5 meters turned or has it different (2 MHz frequency Kacher) Here is a table for calculating frequency Kacher, changing the length of the grenade.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0vR-jPQQMqBwIGozntELrAqh8ydLJ_0thRTARzevFk/edit#gid=0


Keep it up guyz, this is progressing at a beautiful rate.

  Cheerz.

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« Reply #5813 on: October 16, 2014, 09:20:29 PM »
hi Jeg,

Before i sleep.
I have done a quick test base on what you said.1.7Mhz and 1.7Mhz.

Result-Although i can see the alignment from top to bottom (green as shown in previous attachment)but the side of the 1.7Mhz is sticking out so this part is not aligned.

Don't you have a digital scope to try?

By the way recall Akula mentioned it's pointless to go below 18khz if it's a air coil."Base on my <3 or 4 weeks old posting"

That's all for today.

Nope. It is an analog scope.
I don't see any particular reason for not going even to 5Khz. The lower the frequency the longer the current pulse cycle, the more the discharges you can do per cycle.

I would also like to thank T1000 for translating, and all of you guys for giving your best to this fascinating project.

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« Reply #5814 on: October 16, 2014, 09:27:24 PM »
Experimented with measuring the length of the grenade with a signal generator...
found resonances with scope probes connected directly at about 7Mhz... Removed the scope probes, and moved them instead to a coil around the signal generator signal conductor, so it's a current measurement on the signal generator otuput; so I'm really erading the signal, but get enough feedback at resonance to the drive that it shows up.... re-tuning found resonance around 6.24Mhz, which is like 48m which is about what I have using core measurements and increasing radii ... at that point, a square wave ends up with lots of parallel harmonics.  I was driving at a frequency lower than that, but with a shorter duty cycle pulse signal.... so was a combination of tuning the base freqneuency and then the pulse width to find the best harmonics on a FFT math function on my scope....


(2 3/8" core/ 60mm)  ... figured 1/8" wire steps which I guess is a little wide
64/32/16


my kacher is 37m I guess... 200 turns 60mm ... I guess I need another 60 turns to get to 48m ...

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« Reply #5815 on: October 16, 2014, 11:06:57 PM »

MenofFather,

i modified my circuit according to your suggestion (28 turns secondary of the yoke in series via a 0.47uF capacitor with the multi turn coil)

I swapped the nano-pulser little toroid secondary leads, and now indeed the nano-pulse at 150V dc input is only 330Vpp instead of 1KV, but
also about 1/3 wider at 50ns instead of 15ns.

The 2x 60W / 220V bulbs are brighter due to the 28V secondary influence, but there is almost no pulse to be seen ontop of the 27KHz resonance sine wave.
Also no pulse really visible on the signal across the 2 bulbs.
Guess the pulse is to low to have any influence, and i probably need to inject it in an other way.

video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dej2vAa9UVM&feature=youtu.be


Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5816 on: October 16, 2014, 11:25:06 PM »
so I found a coil that was closer to spec, when measured it also has a 6'ish resonant point, with all the accessory coils connected.
the kacher generates moderately high voltage, but isn't great.  was tuning and testing with a power supply and a signal generator.
When I replaced the power supply with a battery, it wouldn't pulse as high.  I had to ground the negative of the battery to get it to oscillate correctly, and generate output.  so it's really picky about having all the peices of the antenna connected, and touching the ferrite kills the output.  I had the cuffed coil open, and when I connected the capacitor the kacher output (output of the grenade) was severely diminished.  eventually I had to turn everything off, connect the capacitor, setup the resonance for (45Khz, it's like 220nf) then enabled the kacher and it worked.  Even ended up at a opint the kacher was self-oscillating without the base resistor.  The composite of the 45khz (was low, only like 5V; needs a stronger drive than a signal generator) was slightly higher output than the kacher alone.  and can see the kacher in sync with the 45khz wave... was pretty stable match for frequencies.  The kacher is about 1.5Khz  (6/4) and needs to be cleaned up; my old secondary is also 'in the circuit' I accidentally put my had by it and got a small burning, and touched it, and it would be plasma... I heard a sizzling noise when I turned up my voltage, but wasn't getting voltage output... thought something was frying but maybe I had breakout. 
At a higher voltage on the power supply the current would go down and down... and the current was in error at one point, which is when I started to move toward a battery... at 12V was only 120mA, and my transistor remained cool. 
works better than my last shot.


previously any time I knocked the antenna off, the output would die (I dunno hard to say how much, was just +/-60V LEDs from ground) but towards the end, had a disconnect and it was still getting strong output...


the signal generator (45Khz) present or not has a stronger effect on my output; previously it didn't composite correctly.

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« Reply #5817 on: October 17, 2014, 12:28:09 AM »
Nope. It is an analog scope.
I don't see any particular reason for not going even to 5Khz. The lower the frequency the longer the current pulse cycle, the more the discharges you can do per cycle.

I would also like to thank T1000 for translating, and all of you guys for giving your best to this fascinating project.

hi Jeg,

Ruslan did ever mentioned in Russian forum the lower the frequency the better the output."Something like that"

But it's known fact that Air core transformer don't perform well in low frequency unless there is a medium-ferrite core eg:2000MNH .Recall SR123 device.

I would prefer to follow Akula explanation which Ruslan device is derived from.



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« Reply #5818 on: October 17, 2014, 12:44:05 AM »

But but but, the multi layer coil (2x 48, 2x 24, 2x 12) does not resonante at  range 18khz....37khz, thats the 2x 25 turn pickup coil with the 0.47uF
capacitor in series!

My  multi layer coil (2x 48, 2x 24, 2x 12) resonates (without any capacitor attached) at severall points starting at 950KHz - 4MHz.

And looking at your screenshot, i see a small high frequency sine wave of about 1.620MHz, and a bigger sine wave half of the frequency,
meaning 810KHz, not 27KHz or am i missing something?



Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

OK you caught me there.
Let me explain i was being really "blunt" when i simply mentioned "multi-layer coil" to save typing time. :)
It was catered for general audience assuming they have read all the older posting less than 4weeks back to understand where 27khz was obtained from.
"Very long sentence written does have it own problems"  :D

To be specific instead of multi-layer coil-i should have mentioned  the resonance frequency which is obtained from across capacitor "0.47uf" which is connected to 2x25 turns(Layered coil) in series which is winded on the opposite end of multilayer coil.This is connected to 3 turns of yoke.






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« Reply #5819 on: October 17, 2014, 12:46:48 AM »
  Itsu and All:
  Here below is an older video of mine, showing on my RMG replication how the feed back circuit can influence the brightness of the bulbs. I'm still trying to get back to where I was, with that previous circuit, but now using the yoke, grenade, and kacher coils combo.
  I was previously was able to light up to 7 100w bulbs, maybe even more, if I had had more of the right turning caps, but that's what I had on hand.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbSJx91vtO4&feature=youtu.be


  Itsu:  Nice video.  I think that you are going the right way.
  Good call to reverse the yoke secondary coil, seams to make a difference.
Thanks...

 

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