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Offline Enjoykin

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5685 on: October 10, 2014, 12:11:44 AM »
Hi Itsu

You have a nice Tek.scope - thanks for vid.

Would you like to share with us your working schematic of Ruslan device ?

Reg.

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« Reply #5686 on: October 10, 2014, 12:38:48 AM »
Itsu i think you should try modular buiding procedure. Build one block - test it - and put somewhere untill you finish all modules. Then join all building blocks and do some final fine adjusting.

I have found original and tested Katcher schematic on mosfet transistor. It's very simple to build and test. 50 minutes job.

Schematic and pictures building manual i have found on site RadiosCats
http://radioskot.ru/publ/bp/kacher_na_polevom_tranzistore/7-1-0-779

Katcher on 311V
http://radioskot.ru/publ/kacher_s_pitaniem_ot_220v/1-1-0-586

Vids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLRUEIF1Qg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB8NPq4ALpw

Brovin Katcher on Bipolar transistor
http://radioskot.ru/publ/bp/kacher/7-1-0-785

This is special edition Katcher Forum - all about Brovin's Katchers is here
http://radioskot.ru/forum/15-648-1

Reg.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5687 on: October 10, 2014, 12:40:39 AM »
hi itsu and another keen device builder,

Base on the link which was posted by Acca which i spoted yesterday
https://vk.com/doc8712300_325715744

What i have merely done is translate the original pdf in google/document translator from Russian to English.Then create a pdf and manually transfer all the images from pdf in Russian to English version pdf.

I have merely highlighted all the key pointer in the English document in "blue"

Please refer to the attached English document.
Do look for some key stuff like nanosecond pulse width-50ns and etc which can be applied for current device.

If you take look at Akula tesla coil tuning video which a English pdf was created.You will find that information in many areas tallies.

In words 2 different device creator Akula and Ruslan both have the similar concept although the device looks different.

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« Reply #5688 on: October 10, 2014, 01:52:20 AM »
I think syncro-mesh is not good solved on given schematic. I don't know does it was original schematic from Roman Karnouhov or not.

To explain:
Switching power supply lines from other circuit (variant of phase-looped-lock) is wrong porcedure. From given schematic by somebody mikmur katcher get his current and voltage from two 1N5819 diodes (output of PLL) to drive collector and base of transistor KT805A. This is wrong because always exist some time-lag to charge input and output capacitances of transistor and start self-auto-triggering. So we got a circuit with big phase error. Differential phase between self-auto-triggering katcher impulses and top of sinusoide of reactive power circuit is significant. We never be able to "lock on" katcher impulses on peak of sinusoide. There i didn't take in account errors due to  temperature and impedance drifts and harmonics jamming from "grenade" output-coil.

Look how Roman Karnouhov was solved that problem on his schematic. Independent power-supply flow for collector and base circuit. and it is a good solution - not like in mikmur schematic.

I have some idea how we can fix the sync problem.

I was vary carefully analysed schematics and found that Roman katcher is not a usual Brovin katcher. It is exactly Tesla Magnificent Transformer. If you take a look you will see extra coil just like Tesla TT had and smal RF bifilar choke between secondary and extra katcher coil.  Secondary and Extra Coil are out of phase by 180o exactly. I must admit role of RF bifilar choke on that place is just beyond the grasp of my mind. Tesla's conception and work is much familar with my mind.

Here is Sidorovitch Katcher - variant of Brovin's katcher and Tesla Magnificent Transformer.  Take attention of small HV capacitor between gate of mosfet transistor and katcher seconary coil. It's rated 3nf/10KVolts (rms). His role here is important - additional phase shift make (soft start) and protect Gate-Drain juntion to HV breakdown (thanks to Miller's internal capacitance Cgd).

The most simplest and effective PLL i've got from friends on TeslaCoils.ru. PLL on UCC27425 dual 4-A high speed low side MOSFET driver with enable inputs. Two variants with an antenna and current transformer.

Datasheet
http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/U/C/C/2/UCC27425.shtml



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5689 on: October 10, 2014, 04:07:41 AM »
Hi Nickz,

Looks like i would to buy expensive large toroid or yoke online.

But I am not sure if you are able to advise me the tv brand and estimated display inch which the yoke was extracted from which i can use it as a rough guide for me.
Thanks in advance.


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« Reply #5689 on: October 10, 2014, 04:07:41 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5690 on: October 10, 2014, 04:17:12 AM »
Бтг синус на выходе

Ruslan Kulabuhov 18 сент. 2014 г.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2akNL5k2xNA

Anapa More Начало-1  9 окт. 2014 г.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5toIutlc_w

Генератор ПУШ-ПУЛ 33 кГц (авто подстройка частоты выключена) качает феррит от TV далее резонансный контур 33 кГц, на биф катушку (индуктор обмотан красной изоплетой) белая намотка по типу граната. На осциллограмме видны интересные всплески с резонансной частотой самого бифиляра, т. е. 1,5 мГц.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5691 on: October 10, 2014, 07:18:01 AM »
I lost my set of images I had ...
someone (akula something?) had a filter module on their kacher.  This helps make it more stable, and isolate the power supply from back spikes...


this has to be within the resonance of the kacher... or can be a destructive harmonic...


Looks like Itsu might either have a destructive harmonic at the low frequency (tune position of primary on kacher?)
Or the pull up is too strong... or the pull down is too weak, so the kacher secondary pull on the base doesn't turn it off very well... or it's turned on too much... or it's turned off too much the pull up needs lower resistance... I'd think it'd be useful to watch the base... and to know what the logic output looks like closer to the ICs

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5692 on: October 10, 2014, 10:57:00 AM »
Hi Itsu

You have a nice Tek.scope - thanks for vid.

Would you like to share with us your working schematic of Ruslan device ?

Reg.

Hi Enjoykin,

I am following this original Ruslan diagram: 
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg417159/#msg417159

with the modifications as mentioned yesterday in my post #5682

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5693 on: October 10, 2014, 11:03:05 AM »
Itsu i think you should try modular buiding procedure. Build one block - test it - and put somewhere untill you finish all modules. Then join all building blocks and do some final fine adjusting.

I have found original and tested Katcher schematic on mosfet transistor. It's very simple to build and test. 50 minutes job.


Well,  i am working in modules, i only put the electronics on 1 breadboard.

Not sure why you point to all these kachers, i have build several which are/were working.
I am now following the kacher setup as presented in the Ruslan diagram now.

Thanks,  regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5694 on: October 10, 2014, 12:57:01 PM »
If you take a look you will see extra coil just like Tesla TT had and smal RF bifilar choke between secondary and extra katcher coil.  Secondary and Extra Coil are out of phase by 180o exactly. I must admit role of RF bifilar choke on that place is just beyond the grasp of my mind. Tesla's conception and work is much familar with my mind.


The choke function there is to filter out spike of sinus  wave and it is tuned to dampen all signal except of peak of sinus wave. So the function is same as nanosecond pulser circuit just clever version with 35kV+ range...
Roman explained this in one of videos just nobody cared to translate it into proper English.

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« Reply #5695 on: October 10, 2014, 02:13:11 PM »
hi Jeg,

not sure what you mean by  "your yoke's primary oscillation".


Sorry for the delay but posts grow up very quickly and i miss some from reading!

When mosfets open and close there is a higher oscillation of about 600KHz-900KHz, superimposed on the peak of the low KHz base signal. Those oscillations are due to the sub-resonance between the half yoke primary, the 2,2nF cap, and the capacities of the two diodes (snubber side). If you play a little with those capacities you can tune those oscillations to a subharmonic of your grenade and take an advantage of them.

Akula is not a child for designing protection snubbers with so much noise. My opinion is that this so called snubber is not there for protection but for artificially producing these HF oscillations and load them on the low frequency base signal of 17 or 27KHz.

You also lack the one side pushing from your yoke's primary which only happens at a cw-ccw arrangement.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5696 on: October 10, 2014, 02:40:07 PM »
Hi Enjoykin,

I am following this original Ruslan diagram: 
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg417159/#msg417159

with the modifications as mentioned yesterday in my post #5682

Regards Itsu

Hi Itsu. It has been pointed out several times here that this schematic is not
created by Ruslan. It was created by mikmur and posted on the realstrannik forum.  :)
The schematic combines a portion from Akula's schematic with various changes/additions
made by mikmur, and was not directly based on any actual device. The only schematic Ruslan
has released (for his recent devices anyway) was the hand drawn schematic which only had blocks
for the push-pull driver and kacher driver.
All the best...

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« Reply #5697 on: October 10, 2014, 02:47:42 PM »
Thanks Void,

i will refer to it in the future to the original Mikmur diagram then.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5698 on: October 10, 2014, 02:54:57 PM »
Hi Itsu. Was thinking about the high voltage falling off on your kacher, shown in your video. 
If you measure the drive signal/power to your kacher circuit on the scope, does the drive/power
to the kacher remain exactly the same? If the drive to the kacher circuit is not falling off,
then one possibility is you may be getting corona discharge or arcing somewhere in your tesla coil.
You may not see anything, but you may hear a slight sizzling noise on the coils or maybe smell
some ozone if this is happening.
All the best...
 

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« Reply #5699 on: October 10, 2014, 03:20:56 PM »

Void,

the yellow trace is the collector voltage, and it does not fall off like the output does.
As the input current (3A) stays the same (or even increase when the output goes down),
i doubt that the drive signal/power is decreasing.

At 900V pp i also doubt there is any corona discharge or arcing somewhere in the Tesla coil,
i certainly did not hear any sizzling noises (i know how a kacher should sound like).

One thing might causing it as i feed separate 12V to the Kacher primary coil directly from the PS,
but the return (emitter) goes via the breadboard return path which might pose a problem for this 3A.
I did not notice any heating up, but i will change that tonight for a direct return path to the PS too.

Thanks,  regards itsu
 

 

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