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magpwr

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5595 on: October 06, 2014, 06:08:16 AM »
hi everyone,

It is just noon over here.

Testing with method 2 which is switching a mosfet or transistor to provide power supply for tesla coil circuit in nanosecond failed.Tesla coil barely light AV plug with led.

This is 3 method left to be test
1)Superimpose signal onto tesla coil which my only concern the peak pulse won't be at sync.

3)If anyone noticed there is bifilar winding on toroid in a circuit which Ruslan showed in a photo but there was no functionality or information provided.
   I have just applied this concept into my virtual nanopulser circuit version 6.0 and i am surprised that it can generate pulse in KV.In other words i got nanopulser in kv to work.
   But i don't know if i can apply that output from transformer from (+) 150volts to power tesla coil and it's circuit which i have confident it will work in low voltage 12volts but unknown at 150volts.
   (To be tested awhile later)

4)Create another coil at receiver/multilayer section to provide this nano pulse base on latest ciruit V6 which is seen in Ruslan unboxed electrical cover video.

I have attached the latest update of nanopulser version 6.0 which is working to provide pulse in KV.

Transformer\toroid spec 100uH,100uH bifilar in virtual.
Screenshot of scope taken at 1us/div.

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3 Hours later-

I have attached the screenshot of all the nanopulse at this moment using 12volts supply.
This time TC4422 is directly connected to 12volts supply instead of 5volts.

All screenshot of nanosecond pulse scope shown is set at 20volts/div-

The component which gave the highest peak around 80volts for 12volts supply is IRF540 but also produce the most ringing waveform.Take note to connect 1N4148 from GND to gate to suppress noise as shown in screen-shot only for this component.

I have attach Japanese transistor 2SC2001 which produced the cleanest waveform but at lower peak.

I have also used G4BC10UD (600volts) which produce less ringing than IRF540 but at slightly lower peak.

The toroid is not finalized yet.At this moment i am using RF Toroid T-157 if i recall correctly is design to work with 250khz...1.5Mhz.
7 turn Bifilar winding merely give 1.25uH at each winding.

I have also tested on nanoncrystalline toroid which consist of 10 turns Bifilar on toroid but inductance is 14mH which produced the worst reading.

Next i need to find a black ferrite toroid which is hiding somewhere for the final test to wrap up the toroid portion.

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Latest update at 6pm in order to get the maximum optimal peak for the nanosecond pulse.The bifilar winding needs to be around 180uH...200uH.
I have attached virtual nanopulse which is using 12volts to do the benchmark to get the maximum peak."Any higher value eg 250uH the peak start dropping again.

Upon applying mere 1.25uH for pri/sec transformer in virtual which is similar to  my RF-toroid used in experiment at the moment.The peak at 1.25uH is similar to my actual experiment as already attached in my scope screenshot base on actual experiment.This is not optimal.

Time to get proper toroid winding on ferrite toroid to aim for 200uH bifilar.
Latest Screenshot attached "200uHBifilarOptimalPeak.jpg" at 12volts supply.

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Final update for today related to nanopulser-

I find it strange a tiny toroid can outperform my larger toroid.I have cheated a bit since i am using a variable HV generator to get around 400volts to get the necessary pulse as shown in latest attached screen-shot at 100volts/div for the final testing for today.

Best part G4BC10UD did not get warm barely <2C increase in temperature at this high voltage.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 03:09:24 PM by magpwr »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5596 on: October 06, 2014, 12:36:41 PM »
@itsu
what is the resonant frequency of the multilary coil with ground on the longest windings and signal at end of shortest windings?
can use the coil cuffed around it to drive it without the yoke
did you have a inductance measurement of the multilayer coil?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5597 on: October 06, 2014, 01:58:38 PM »
The K561TM2 chip in the top LHS of the Ruslan circuit (Mag edit 4) is the equivalent of CD4013A Dual flip-flop. What is this switching in the box below? It might be an electronic switch / transistor to switch through the supply current to the 5V regulator.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5598 on: October 06, 2014, 02:18:31 PM »
@itsu
what is the resonant frequency of the multilary coil with ground on the longest windings and signal at end of shortest windings?
can use the coil cuffed around it to drive it without the yoke
did you have a inductance measurement of the multilayer coil?

d3x0r,

i never measure the resonance of a coil with the (50 Ohm impedance) signal generator directly attached to this coil, i always use
a separate 2 turn wire coil around the coil to be measured.
When i do that (multilayer coil grounded at one end, the scope probe across this coil), a measure the following resonances
(sine wave signal when inputting 5V square wave):

944KHz 20Vpp
2.115KHz 10Vpp
3.965KHz 12Vpp

Concerning the inductance of this coil, i did mention that here: 
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg418931/#msg418931

but as i now have attached the yoke to the L3 coil, there are some slight changes as now i measure:

100Hz    146uH
1 KHz     146uH
10 KHz   145uH
100 KHz 87uH

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5599 on: October 06, 2014, 02:57:25 PM »
The K561TM2 chip in the top LHS of the Ruslan circuit (Mag edit 4) is the equivalent of CD4013A Dual flip-flop. What is this switching in the box below? It might be an electronic switch / transistor to switch through the supply current to the 5V regulator.

hi Hoppy,

That circuit do not make sense for me.
I have seen a circuit based on 4013 which was being used in solid state tesla coil somewhere.One of a kind circuit but without the LM393.I need to search for it maybe in my hdd or bookmark hopefully i have save it.

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I need to figure out on how to apply the nanopulse into device eventually.In one of the unboxing video i recall i have a seen something which looks like a pulse transformer which nearly look like a mini bbq ignition transformer in the box which is located nearest to the tesla primary coil.

 

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« Reply #5600 on: October 06, 2014, 03:22:09 PM »
Thanks Nick. Ii is an insufficient system anyway by itself. If katcher will improve it will be a good start to develop something better.

Itsu, i had uploaded the same waveform with this ringing a while back. Normally the diode which is connected in series with the 2,2nF cap has to face down to the ground for the cap to charge fast while oscillating with the half yoke primary. This ringing has the frequency determined by the half primary coil combined with the 2,2nF and the capacity of the diodes. That's the why it doesn't ring with just resistor in place of coil. It is irritating but if you make resonance at secondary side, it is being eliminated enough.

Mag, your second approach is more close to me, but i am also thinking better ways for doing it as it has some drawbacks.

Something very interesting about the multilayer grenade coil that perhaps you didn't notice yet. The magnetic field that takes place in that coil form, is in such a way as to create two similar poles at each ends. About at the middle of the coil, the other two poles are squeezing each other. Use this info to predict the relative winding directions of Tesla coil and its radiator.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5601 on: October 06, 2014, 03:22:29 PM »
d3x0r,

i never measure the resonance of a coil with the (50 Ohm impedance) signal generator directly attached to this coil, i always use
a separate 2 turn wire coil around the coil to be measured.
When i do that (multilayer coil grounded at one end, the scope probe across this coil), a measure the following resonances
(sine wave signal when inputting 5V square wave):

944KHz 20Vpp
2.115KHz 10Vpp
3.965KHz 12Vpp

Concerning the inductance of this coil, i did mention that here: 
http://www.overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg418931/#msg418931

but as i now have attached the yoke to the L3 coil, there are some slight changes as now i measure:

100Hz    146uH
1 KHz     146uH
10 KHz   145uH
100 KHz 87uH

Regards Itsu
so 1.888Mhz (suggested target kacher, irrelavent for impulse)  is 2 x 944... and the other should be 29Khz or 59Khz probably...
something like 206nF...


hmm what about your 25+25 turn coil's inductance?  also 146uH?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5602 on: October 06, 2014, 03:29:10 PM »
Thanks Nick. Ii is an insufficient system anyway by itself. If katcher will improve it will be a good start to develop something better.

Itsu, i had uploaded the same waveform with this ringing a while back. Normally the diode which is connected in series with the 2,2nF cap has to face down to the ground for the cap to charge fast while oscillating with the half yoke primary. This ringing has the frequency determined by the half primary coil combined with the 2,2nF and the capacity of the diodes. That's the why it doesn't ring with just resistor in place of coil. It is irritating but if you make resonance at secondary side, it is being eliminated enough.

Mag, your second approach is more close to me, but i am also thinking better ways for doing it as it has some drawbacks.

Something very interesting about the multilayer grenade coil that perhaps you didn't notice yet. The magnetic field that takes place in that coil form, is in such a way as to create two similar poles at each ends. About at the middle of the coil, the other two poles are squeezing each other. Use this info to predict the relative winding directions of Tesla coil and its radiator.

hi Jeg,

Since you have mentioned about 2 poles.There was this Russian video which a compass was place near a coil which get compass to move.
Anyway there is nothing in that video worth mentioning as i recall.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5603 on: October 06, 2014, 03:50:23 PM »
so 1.888Mhz (suggested target kacher, irrelavent for impulse)  is 2 x 944... and the other should be 29Khz or 59Khz probably...
something like 206nF...


hmm what about your 25+25 turn coil's inductance?  also 146uH?

Well, its now connected to the 3 turn coil on the yoke, so hard to measure, but as it was resonating at 26.5KHz with 465nF, it
calculates to be around 78uH.

Regards Itsu

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« Reply #5604 on: October 06, 2014, 04:48:19 PM »
Well, its now connected to the 3 turn coil on the yoke, so hard to measure, but as it was resonating at 26.5KHz with 465nF, it
calculates to be around 78uH.

Regards Itsu

hi itsu,

I understand previously that you have completed building the device once we got the receiver coil specs.
I do fear that you have not factored in the oscillation frequency of Tesla coil once the antenna is in place over the receiver/multilayer coil.To get to 1.7Mhz ...1.8Mhz. recall 27.xxxkhz for the yoke is also the sub-harmonics for the 4.8Mhz or 1.7Mhz..1.8Mhz(3rd harmonics) base on the excel spreadsheet which i have also previously attached twice.

If you observe carefully at the Tesla coil portion for any of Ruslan device.It length of tesla coil itself is barely 12inches/30cm.

My 1st hand made Tesla coil is 30cm ,inductance reading at 1.069mH on 5.5cm dia pvc pipe using 20AWG(Base on observation)  and it is resonating at 1.3Mhz which i will be reducing the winding at the later stage.

Once i have completed the nanopulser portion to pulse in 1 or 2 KV for a start.
The circuit itself is completed but i need to figured on how to interface with the device which there is 2 possibilities left which i have mentioned in post couple of hours ago.

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The part which i don't understand why is Ruslan using 2 x 0.47uf 2000volts, 4 x 0.47uf 2000v in parallel configuration as spotted in 1 or 2 videos.
The combine uf value seems to be matching with microwave caps 2000volts around 1uf...1.8uf which is seen in older Akula video.
 

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« Reply #5605 on: October 06, 2014, 05:28:05 PM »
The biasing of the Karcher transistor looks wrong to me. Potential divider R12 & R13 should be reversed? What does the note referring to R12 / R13 say?

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« Reply #5606 on: October 06, 2014, 05:45:13 PM »
The biasing of the Karcher transistor looks wrong to me. Potential divider R12 & R13 should be reversed? What does the note referring to R12 / R13 say?


hi Hoppy,

I have created the old video for this version 4.0.I have reattached again for you.
The 460ohms resistor can be amended to 1k which i can get higher peaking.This was also shown in video.

I have already done major clean of nanopulser circuit  ver 4.0 and removing all the unwanted components which is not useful for me.The primary reason being i can't get nanosecond to below 100ns for version 4.0.

I have attached version 6 which i am currently using for my experiment which positive or negative pulse is  buffered by TC4422 which is connected to 12volts supply at this moment but i will amend to higher voltage around 18volts...19volts.
But in virtual i can't apply 12volts or high for TC4428.

Please read my explanation in previous posting less than 24hours ago.


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« Reply #5607 on: October 06, 2014, 05:47:01 PM »

If you observe carefully at the Tesla coil portion for any of Ruslan device.It length of tesla coil itself is barely 12inches/30cm


I roughly scaled it at approx 20cm max, probably closer to 16cm.

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« Reply #5608 on: October 06, 2014, 06:04:41 PM »
  Itsu:
  Thanks for the video. Can you lease connect some higher wattage bulbs for as load, maybe three 100w bulbs.  As the 120 watts from your two bulbs is not much of a draw.
  I find that 100w bulbs light much better than the 50 to 60 watt one do. As these devices are load sensitive.
  Also, can you connect your Kacher, using the whole antenna set up.
Do you have a ferrite rod to tune the antenna with?
  Try different tuning caps, you may find some that work better than the one you have on the 3 turn coil.
  I'm trying out different tuning caps to see if I can obtain a higher output from my induction part of the circuit. As without the proper resonance the Mazilli/yoke crt is not very effictive. I suspect the same with the Ruslan crt.

  I'll also try to upload a video today of what I have going so far. I've got the new Mazilli/yoke circuit working now. It is still heating the fets, as before with the previous Mazilli. But, this crt has not gone into what you Itsu called the caotic state, and stays at the lower power output state which you had called the "normal" running state. I did find a couple of tuning caps that help to increase the amplitude, and bulb brightness. Most of my caps which worked on the previosly induction crt,  did not help on my new circuit.
  My snubber part, or fet protection is made of 480ohm resistors to the base,  18v 5w zeners, and UF306 crossover diodes, and small 10k resistors.
  The yoke primary (5 or 6 turns) is connected the fets on short thick wire connections, the negative side is also connected by thick short wire connection. I'm trying to avoid overheating issues, still.  Not working so far, as one of the fets still becomes untouchable in one to two minutes.
  I'll probably connect up my Akula/Ruslan air coil to the above set up today or tomorrow, also. I still need to add some more turns on the output coil, to complete the 48,48 turns, and opposite wound 24,24, 12,12 turns.
  My kacher crt is ready to go, as well.
 
   Guys:
   It's good to compare notes from the output readings at the yoke secondary, (not connected to the air coils), maybe to just a single 100w 110v, or 220v bulb(s).  To see how that part of the crt compares between the various members here and their Akula/Ruslan circuits replications that are now being built.
  The yoke's induction crt is the most important part, as that is where the real power is being produced at, possibly being drawn from the surrounding ambient, as mentioned by some. The kacher crt just adds to it, when in sinc, and the earth ground connection allows it to happen.   That's the tricky part... and where the magic lies.   Using Impulse Technology, to obtain that special resonant state.

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« Reply #5609 on: October 06, 2014, 06:07:03 PM »

hi Hoppy,

I have created the old video for this version 4.0.I have reattached again for you.
The 460ohms resistor can be amended to 1k which i can get higher peaking.This was also shown in video.

Thanks for re-posting this video. I must of stopped short of the point where you changed the resistor to 1K! The normal biasing would be with the base at a around third of supply rail - resistors reversed.

It won't be long before I have everything built and ready for testing. Most of the electronics and Yoke coil is built, so I just need to wind the grenade coil and Karcher. I will start with the original configuration incorporating the errors you found and see if I can match your virtual testing findings. I have a 24V, 3-phase PSU which will give me around 18V / 16A output using a single phase input.

For those using IGBT's as I am, a diode clamp may be needed at the input to counter the gate Miller effect.