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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5535 on: October 04, 2014, 03:21:07 PM »
Working on the basis of 4.8MHz natural resonant frequency for the grenade coil and a coil former diameter of 50mm, I work out that the complete winding length is in the order of 31 metres. This is only around half of the wavelength which is 62.45 metres. Any comments on this? I have taken into consideration the increased diameter of the 24 and 12 turn coils.

hi Hoppy,

Ruslan have mentioned in Russian forum that 1/2 wave length of the coil is 18.75m.

multi strand copper wire for grenade coil is 2.5mm sq .I have forgotten the exact number for wire insulation part which is around 2.9mm .Please do refer to previous posting by Jeg or Void.
Calculation to derive the pvc pipe diameter was found to be at 5.25cm~ by Jeg or Void base on receiver coil winding spec which was posted.This after factoring insulation.

Advise to refer to previous posting....

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There is only 5.5cm diameter pvc pipe available at my location. :'(

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I have attached receiver coil spec for my personal use.The reason why there is 2 or 3 more winding at the bottom was based on past winding experience to get the upper winding foundation nicely done.
In practice eg:24,24 will never work out well for the upper coil in this case 24 top since lower foundation is weak at the sides.

For verification-Itsu have mention the same findings related to winding somewhere for the current device which he got 26.5khz once combine with 0.47uf hv capacitor.

Please ignore the Ferrite balun part as this is replaced with 2 turns for latest Ruslan device but take note the 2 outer larger coil is cw & ccw this time base on my observation.Double verification on this part is needed.
 

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« Reply #5535 on: October 04, 2014, 03:21:07 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5536 on: October 04, 2014, 03:36:44 PM »
I would like to add few things:

1)The resonances are best calculated by wire length (it is same as wavelegth) and this method is also how Ruslan also used in his calculations and his "grenade" coil which was aimed for 4.8MHz resonant frequency
2) First you build "grenade" coil with 48CW+48CCW + 24CW+24CCW + 12CW+12CCW then try to find its resonance without earth ground attached as antenna and later when grounded
cw ccw, ccw cw, ccw, cw ; 48-->24 flip
3) Depending on frequencies found you will need to build Tesla coil resonating on 1/3rd frequency of main coil
I still think it's 1/3 wavelength; λ/3 .  My resonances are 1200 (both ends of coil peek at resonance) with no ground, 900, 1800 (signal resonant on non ground side with ground side a; signal resonant on ground side with ground side a) and 1073, 2300, (signal resonant on non ground side with ground side b; signal resonant on ground side with ground side b)

should I tune for signal on the ground side or the opposing side?
So... 900 or 1073 at ungrounded sides of the coil, and a resonant on the ground side at almost double that ....




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Hopefully this will help in tunning... :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5537 on: October 04, 2014, 03:40:00 PM »
hi Hoppy,

Ruslan have mentioned in Russian forum that 1/2 wave length of the coil is 18.75m.

multi strand copper wire for grenade coil is 2.5mm sq .I have forgotten the exact number for wire insulation part which is around 2.9mm .Please do refer to previous posting by Jeg or Void.
Calculation to derive the pvc pipe diameter was found to be at 5.25cm~ by Jeg or Void base on receiver coil winding spec which was posted.This after factoring insulation.

Advise to refer to previous posting....

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There is only 5.5cm diameter pvc pipe available at my location. :'(

Hi Mag,

Thanks, this makes sense, as Rusla's coil former in video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmE_yZjIBrA  is probably only 25mm - 30mm dia, so a lot less wire length. I have 4cm, so will need more turns, assuming 4.8MHz fundamental is in some way critical??. How critical is the turns ratio of the step windings?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5538 on: October 04, 2014, 03:50:18 PM »
Hi Mag,

Thanks, this makes sense, as Rusla's coil former in video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmE_yZjIBrA  is probably only 25mm - 30mm dia, so a lot less wire length. I have 4cm, so will need more turns. How critical is the turns ratio of the step windings?

hi Hoppy,

The only thing i know critical is 1.7Mhz...1.8Mhz for the tesla coil resonance once all wiring is completed including the outer coil.

This advise is also for itsu.
If working with tesla coil in order to know resonance frequency of tesla coil while in operation the best practice as seen in many web sites is merely laying the probe near tesla coil(Around middle would do) around 10cm away estimate.


This is to ensure probe don't interfere with tesla coil by adding unwanted capacitance.

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Ruslan have mentioned somewhere in Russian forum it is very important to get around 37.5m for the multi layer coil else you will need to redo all over.

itsu have got it right for the receiver coil use his pvc pipe spec at 5cm if i recall correctly.

Capacitor eg:0.47uf 2kv can be tricky as the uf value varies even from the same make.Buy 4 capacitors which likely all 4 cap would have quite similar value but not exact most of the time.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5539 on: October 04, 2014, 04:02:38 PM »
hi Hoppy,

The only thing i know critical is 1.7Mhz...1.8Mhz for the tesla coil resonance once all wiring is completed including the outer coil.

can you dig up a reference for that?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5540 on: October 04, 2014, 04:08:35 PM »
can you dig up a reference for that?

hi d3x0r,

I do advise to check on my previous posting on where i obtained the information and not forgetting the pdf from Akula speech which i have attached previously.
The pdf which allowed me to decode to kick start this forum to provide a much deeper level of understanding than the past.

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« Reply #5541 on: October 04, 2014, 04:13:09 PM »

.... but take note the 2 outer larger coil is cw & ccw this time base on my observation.Double verification on this part is needed.

Mag about what coil you r talking ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5542 on: October 04, 2014, 04:20:00 PM »
Mag about what coil you r talking about?

hi Jeg,

I need assistance to double verify if the 2 large outer coil(One on tesla coil and another over multi layer) are cw,cw or cw and another ccw once the "2 turns winding" is used to link tesla coil to antenna over the multilayger coil.

This "latest" device is reveal in Ruslan video where there was removing the electrical box using a drill to show what is inside while the device is in operation.

The 2 turns was first spotted by itsu.The older version was the ferrite where there is CW and CCW winding done on ferrite, but i think the older version both the 2 outer large coil is aligned eg:cw&cw or ccw&ccw.

Please assist as my eyes may deceive me hence double checking is preferred for this area.

It would be easy to change winding direction of large outer coil at the multi layer coil once confirmed.

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« Reply #5543 on: October 04, 2014, 04:52:05 PM »
My opinion on this according to my understanding and experiments is that

1. You put the outer primary coil of Tesla in the direction which needs for the Katcer to work. No problem if it is CW or CCW. Katcer works with only one direction primary and this depends on which direction you wound the Tesla coil itself.

2. Radiator's direction do play a role as it is one direction pushing and it has to be in a way as to force the low frequency down to zero or lower during the whole pulse train of spikes. While doing this, the coil reacts in an opposite manner and gives a positive narrow current pulse for each time you force it to go down to zero level or lower. At the end of each cycle, the mean value of current will be higher than without katcer's pulses.

3. Ferite between Tesla and radiator is just for frequency correction. It is not there for making the pulse narrower because we anyway bring in resonance the granade coil at lets say 1.8MHz and even if you give it a narrower pulse, this coil will react in a time according to its resonant frequency. Which is 1/1.8MHz.

According to this last paragraph, the two turns in the air in place of the ferrite in Ruslan's latest photo, is there only by accident or for a Hertz order frequency correction which is unnecessary.

Ps. T1000 mentions about loading positive only cycles. This is because if you do the same to negative, you give back to the environment what you gain during the positive cycle. At the design of the future we will load negative cycles also, but at the opposite side than we do to the positive cycle. This eventually will double the output power.


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« Reply #5544 on: October 04, 2014, 05:11:42 PM »
My opinion on this according to my understanding is that

1. You put the outer primary coil of Tesla in the direction which needs for the Katcer to work. No problem if it is CW or CCW. Katcer works with only one direction primary and this depends on which direction you wound the Tesla coil itself.

2. Radiator's direction do play a role as it is one direction pushing and it has to be in a way as to force the low frequency down to zero or lower during the whole pulse train of spikes. While doing this, the coil reacts in an opposite manner and gives a positive narrow current pulse for each time you force it to go down to zero level or lower. At the end of each cycle, the mean value of current will be higher than without katcer's pulses.

3. Ferite between Tesla and radiator is just for frequency correction. It is not there for making the pulse narrower because we anyway bring in resonance the granade coil at lets say 1.8MHz and even if you give it a narrower pulse, this coil will react in a time according to its resonant frequency. Which is 1/1.8MHz.

According to this last paragraph, the two turns in the air in place of the ferrite in Ruslan's latest photo, is there only by accident or for a Hertz order frequency correction which is unnecessary.

hi Jeg,

Thanks Jeg for your input.

But i would "like" to ask you again what was your visual findings on the large outer coil if it is aligned or it is cw & ccw base on the latest device with 2 turns.

For me the smallest details does matter-

For example if the old device outer coil winding direction is aligned on tesla coil and antenna coil over multilayer.Then a ccw,cw winding was applied on the ferrite.
Now looking at the latest device it looks simple 2 turns coil instead of ferrite rod with cw,ccw.
But observe carefully the direction of the 2 outer large coil seems not aligned this time it seems like cw and ccw formation which makes a world of a difference if you are constructing the device.

Using the ferrite rod is a  little complicated one reason being we don't know what is the actual core material used/PERMEABILITY is unknown.Someone did ever mentioned material 61 or 66 for ferrite which i can't fully recall or to verify.

Related to ferrite-The only hint i know Ruslan mentioned it is MF or Medium frequency which covers up to 1.7Mhz or 1.8Mhz which is easy to verify base on Tesla coil resonance frequency.
 

 

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« Reply #5545 on: October 04, 2014, 05:46:05 PM »
Do you remember in which page is the photo with this coil that you r talking about?

My winding directions are copied from this link which published by GF

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/134930-ustanovka-ruslana-kulabuxova.html?start=1620

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« Reply #5546 on: October 04, 2014, 05:58:09 PM »
  I don't think that the pvc pipe former for the air coils, is 5cm. It looks more like 1 1/4 inch tube, or less for the blue TK coil. Could also be a 1 1/2 inch pipe. 
So, 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inch former. But, not 2 inches, or bigger.

  I also don't think that the resonator coil is 25,25 turns, as only 12,12 turns is seen on both Akula and Ruslans, or TK devices.

  The Kacher secondary is not much over 6 inches long, possibly 20 to 22 gauge.

  And I feel that there is a purpose for the ferrite rod frequency tuner coils, and not just using a couple of turns in the air, like Ruslan is showing.
The device probably works without this ferrite rod, but not as well. Otherwise Akula would not have used it.

  Hoppy: I got my new Mazill crt working now. The problem was a combination of one bad solder joint, and possibly a bad new battery. The device works ok with my 12v, 10 amp battery charger. But, the brand new battery will not hold the charge, and I may have to replace it with another one. Voltage drops too much when the device is turned on. Which also makes the fets heat up, as well, as you have previously mentioned.
 My fets, IRFP260N (6 pack) are all a bit different from one another, and so are  their output readings.
I'll screw the fets down in place on the heatsinks when I find the right size drill and screws, as the motherboard heatsinks don't have the mounting hole in them.

  Guys: You can wind the aircoils with the same winds on each layer by placing a pin, or a thin two inch screw, through the former pipe, on the ends of where to first wind is. That way the other winds will aline the same, or nearly so. The other smaller coil turns can be held in place by tape or tie wraps.
But, I don't think that that it's all that important.

   
 

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« Reply #5547 on: October 04, 2014, 06:08:45 PM »
Nick, Ruslan himself spoke about 37meters or close for making the grenade, which correspond to a 5+ cm diameter meter. He also said 11meters wire for the inductor which correspond to 25+25 turns. Perhaps later he changed the design. Can u pls attach the picks where you see 12+12?

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« Reply #5548 on: October 04, 2014, 06:13:53 PM »
Do you remember in which page is the photo with this coil that you r talking about?

My winding directions are copied from this link which published by GF

http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/134930-ustanovka-ruslana-kulabuxova.html?start=1656

hi Jeg,

It's ok.I have just cracked\solved this outer coil winding direction mystery  in 3 minutes using another alternative verification approach.

The answer is shown below-
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everyone,

Base on latest video of Ruslan where he removed box cover for his latest device while in operation-
Пояснение по работе Генератора СЕ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOc-7EXMvNc

Base on my observation and justification why only 2 turns is used instead of "ferrite rod with cw&ccw winding" is because i have spotted both large outer coil(On tesla coil and another over multilayer coil) winding is not aligned this time it is eg:cw and ccw for the latest current device shown in video.

If you observe the ending for the both outer coil is facing in the opposite direction this means the winding direction for the large outer coil is different this time-

I have attached screen shot from video for the justification purpose-

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« Reply #5549 on: October 04, 2014, 06:21:18 PM »
Very nice Mag. If we could find the relative direction of granade also, it would have more sense. If you look at the picture at my previous post attachment, there all the directions can be shown.

Nick if you spoke about this pic that Mag attached, yes it looks like it has 12+12 and heavier gauge wire than the grenade.

 

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