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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10197346 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5385 on: September 29, 2014, 10:53:28 AM »
We have already covered this but it is a long time ago. These diodes and caps that you are referring about make demodulation of the mixed signal. (See am demodulation with diode and cap...).

What I would like to ask is if this 220v ac to 12v dc converter is able to handle a higher frequency than 50Hz at the input, cause its input frequency is at KHz range.

Hi Jeg. It could be 'demodulation' (a low pass filter), but I personally have not seen any scope shots from Akula or Ruslan
that would confirm that such low pass filtering is necessary. That may be the case however.

That's a good point about the frequency of the output waveform.  Some power supplies
might handle higher frequencies OK, but others might not work well at all very much above 50/60 Hz.
It would depend on the power supply. Off hand I don't know how a typical switching power supply might
perform at say 17 KHz input as compared to 50/60 Hz. I have never tried it. That is another reason
to consider rectifying to DC at the output however, like Ruslan showed in his recent hand drawn schematic.
I hadn't thought about that. Maybe someone out there has done some experimenting with this already.
I am more concerned about trying to get a circuit to produce over unity right now, and I will
worry about looping back the power only if over unity can be achieved. :) If a person can get to there,
then just viewing the output waveform on a scope should tell you what you will need to know to decide
how to loop back the output.

I think this is the power supply that Ruslan has been using in recent videos:
Model: S-120-12
Input: 120/240 VAC
Output: 12VDC, rated at 10 Amps max output current
Like this one on Ebay for example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-110-220V-DC-12V-10A-Switch-Power-Supply-Driver-for-LED-Strip-Light-S-120-12-/311100900630

All the best...



Offline magpwr

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5386 on: September 29, 2014, 11:47:47 AM »
Hi everyone,

There may or may not be a small possibility the switch mode power supply is modified to support higher frequency.

Just take a look at a various switch mode power supply circuit diagram as found via internet.

It's basically taking a/c mains and converting to dc before being stepped via tranformer which is switching at higher freq than mains.I mean around 200volts for 110volts or 400volts dc from 230volts at the first stage for switch mode supply.

The only possible/logical modification i know is to replace full bridge rectifier with 4 fast response diodes.Full bridge rectifier if you take a look at it's spec in datasheet is intended to be used in mains provided frequency 50/60hz.

If you want to experiment to confirm do try to see if slow bridge diodes can provide similar amerage in high freq in example yoke or toroid output.

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« Reply #5387 on: September 29, 2014, 12:09:33 PM »
Dear Team-partners!
I hope that someone already have done this so to inform us. If indeed needs 50hz, then there is an easier way to do it than to make modification at diodes side.

I already have used this technique in many cases and works fine. Just supply all the dc voltages by first converting 220v ac to 24 or 48 ac, and then rectify it through a bridge with no smoothing caps. Those 100hz dc pulses first of all synchronizes all the stages (katcher&LF) and at the end after the final demodulation we have 50hz at 220v. When you 'll be there and need further explanation just ask for it.

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« Reply #5388 on: September 29, 2014, 03:18:25 PM »
Dear Team-partners!
I hope that someone already have done this so to inform us.

Hi Jeg. Ok, I set up a quick test with a power fullwave bridge rectifier module, 
using a function generator set to 20Vpp into the FWBR, and from there to a 50 ohm load.
Exact results will depend on the actual FWBR module or diodes that are being used
in any given switching power supply, but these test results should give an idea.

At 17 kHz and 37 kHz, there is a negative portion to the output of the power FWBR.
This might cause problems for the switching power supply, including possible failure of
the electrolytic filter capacitors after a while at the power supply input. There is distortion on
the rectified waveforms at 17 kHz and 37 kHz, and there is some loss of peak signal level,
which is not surprising using a FWBR designed for use at 60 Hz.

Based on these test results, it would probably be a good idea to change the FWBR
or rectifying diodes at the input of the switching power supply if possible (as Magpwr suggested) to use fast or
ultrafast power diodes, or to do as Ruslan did and convert to DC using fast power diodes (12R06) right at the
output of the bifilar coil. There are of course probably other options as you suggested such as stepping down the
output voltage to the desired voltage before rectifying to DC to save having to use a power supply.
All the best.
:)

Tested at 60 Hz, 17 kHz, and 37 kHz

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5389 on: September 29, 2014, 03:34:35 PM »
If you are replacing the input stage FWBR with fast diodes, please check the following components as they are probably designed to block unwanted noise, i.e. filter stage that might need adjustment (i.e. diff cap and/or inductor).

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5390 on: September 29, 2014, 03:39:24 PM »
Nice Job Void, well done! I am thinking to buy such a module these days. When this will be done, i 'll post some pics of its inside to see all together if Mag's idea is possible!

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« Reply #5391 on: September 29, 2014, 03:42:58 PM »
If you are replacing the input stage FWBR with fast diodes, please check the following components as they are probably designed to block unwanted noise, i.e. filter stage that might need adjustment (i.e. diff cap and/or inductor).

Hi starcruiser. Yeah, that sounds like it could be more trouble than it is worth, if there are
low pass filtering components right at the input. 

Jeg's idea of stepping down the voltage using a step down transformer could work
if you wound the step down transformer on a large torroid core or yoke core. You
may be drawing as much as 6 or 7 Amps, so you would need a hefty ferrite torroid core.
Ruslan's approach of converting to DC right at the output of the bifilar coil might be
a simpler solution if you don't want to mess around too much.
All the best...
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5392 on: September 29, 2014, 03:54:38 PM »
Hi guyz,

Take a look. 
This is what I have and anothor from 115V / 230V ac to 12V 5amps .

Enjoy

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« Reply #5393 on: September 29, 2014, 04:42:40 PM »
  Ok, now I get it...  What confused me was the use of the word INVERTER, as it is NOT and inverter, but a 110v-220v to 12v down stepping power supply, instead. As Hoppy had mentioned.
So, lets not use the word "inverter", as it's a misnomer.

  The $30 PSU that was linked to is only a 5 amp unit, and we probably need a 12 to 20 amp one, instead. Like Geos 16amp PSU, or similar.

  I will however use my already wound flyback to rectifier diodes/capacitor set up to convert the 3 combined frequencies at the bulb output location, to a useable 12v dc output source, and send that back to the input side of my device.
If that doesn't work, then I'll have to obtain the right power supply, such as the one that Geo has.
  I've already tested the above set up previously, and it works, but not with enough power for the device to self run when I tried it.
It needed about 10 amps, or so. But, I'll give it another go at it though.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5394 on: September 29, 2014, 05:03:51 PM »
The $30 PSU that was linked to is only a 5 amp unit, and we probably need a 12 to 20 amp one, instead. Like Geos 16amp PSU, or similar.

Hi Nickz. If you mean the power supply I linked to on EBay, which appears to be the same model that Ruslan is using (S-120-12),
as I mentioned in my comment above it is rated at 10 amps maximum output current. This is apparently sufficient to self
run Ruslan's last few devices. If it is rated at 10 Amps max, and the circuit is drawing say 6 or 7 amps, the power supply
might well run quite hot. A switch mode power supply with a higher output current rating should run cooler. I believe when
you use the TL494 to drive the push pull inverter and get everything working right (over unity), I think Ruslan said that it
shouldn't pull more than about 6 amps and maybe less to power the driver circuits. This would seem to indicate that if you
are getting over unity that it is taking some load off of the inverter driver circuit, which Ruslan also mentioned in his comments.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5395 on: September 29, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »
hi everyone,

I have finally found what i was looking for in the area of subharmonics.

Recalled the Akula Tesla coil tuning video which i was interested about after MenofFather have assisted to translate for us what Akula was saying in that video.

Recall this numbers 4.8Mhz

1.8Mhz 3rd Harmonics

then at 27khz at 66.6 subharmonics later where he found what he was looking for in that video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig

I consider myself lucky to find this web site within 5 minutes of my search-
Sub Harmonic Calculator for Rife Fundamental Frequencies
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/calcul.html

Here i downloaded excel file called Rife.xls 

I have attached this file Rife.xls  which i had modified a little by dragging down the index so that i am able to see all the interesting sub-harmonics
It's mid-night here.
I have just input 1800000 and it gave me the 66th sub-harmonics value at 27272.3hz or 27.272khz

If you got microsoft office please ensure security macro is set to low to prevent errors.

I have not tried free excel viewer which should work as well.

This is the area which i am still learning.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #5396 on: September 29, 2014, 06:47:04 PM »
Guys I disclose this video for a while just to see the result of supplying this circuit with 100hz pulses, a possible solution for ruslan's circuit. If you don't have time to watch it just go straight to min.19' I will probably proceed this way as I am familiar with this method.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XinprHC4sw

Offline Jeg

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« Reply #5397 on: September 29, 2014, 06:52:24 PM »
Great calculator mag! Thanks

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« Reply #5398 on: September 29, 2014, 08:18:02 PM »

1.8Mhz 3rd Harmonics

then at 27khz at 66.6 subharmonics later where he found what he was looking for in that video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rALEpvBQig


Interesting that both are ham / CB amateur band frequencies.

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« Reply #5399 on: September 29, 2014, 08:42:25 PM »
I think you mean 27mhz Hoppy. This is 27khz