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« Reply #4125 on: February 24, 2014, 11:48:54 PM »
  Here is another video of my version of the RMG device.  This time I'm using an even older totally dead 12v, 7aH battery, to see if this junk battery that won't take a charge anymore would be charged to some degree by the device.  At first the light bulbs would not even light, but I left the battery connected to the RMG circuit by accident, and after a few minutes the bulbs started to light, all 6 bulbs, but very dimly. Then the light intensity started to improve and get brighter.
  Here is the link to that video, which I uploaded late last night:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyIwj550Kjw

This is a classic case of a sulfated battery recovering when connected to an inductive load that 'spikes' back at the battery, which helps to lower its internal resistance by removal of plate sulfate deposits. It is not charging from the feedback winding. Most avid Bedini experimenters will be very familiar with this effect. If you measure the voltage across the battery over a period of time whilst on load, you will see the voltage rise erratically, then peak and finally fall . Its more than likely that you will have at least one shorted cell in the battery that may or may not recover.

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« Reply #4126 on: February 25, 2014, 01:21:05 AM »
  There are no inductive spikes going to the battery, as the RMG 65 turn feed back coil's AC voltage output, is both rectified and filtered down to 11 volts DC voltage.
So, it's not de-sulfating the battery, either.
  Both the electrolytic caps which are connected to the feed back coil are charging very quickly, and they do transfer that charge to the device input, battery, or both.
As can be seen by my connecting the feed back wire to the input of the device, which make the bulbs brighten up substantially.

  As mentioned, I need to redo my RMG coil to better conform to the yoke coil's output.  I'm starting to see just how many turns are needed, so that it will reach at least 130 volt AC output to the bulbs, as well as 15 volts DC output or so, from the feed back coil, back to the input. That's is my next step. 
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4127 on: February 25, 2014, 03:30:32 AM »
  There are no inductive spikes going to the battery, as the RMG 65 turn feed back coil's AC voltage output, is both rectified and filtered down to 11 volts DC voltage.
So, it's not de-sulfating the battery, either.
  Both the electrolytic caps which are connected to the feed back coil are charging very quickly, and they do transfer that charge to the device input, battery, or both.
As can be seen by my connecting the feed back wire to the input of the device, which make the bulbs brighten up substantially.

  As mentioned, I need to redo my RMG coil to better conform to the yoke coil's output.  I'm starting to see just how many turns are needed, so that it will reach at least 130 volt AC output to the bulbs, as well as 15 volts DC output or so, from the feed back coil, back to the input. That's is my next step. 
 

hi Nickz,

Just a small pieces of advise. Try not break something which works.
It's better to wind second set of coil and just reuse the ferrite cores.

I have read many cases where  engineer or scientist was not able to replicate "the positive  result" after months or years of work.

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« Reply #4128 on: February 25, 2014, 08:02:34 AM »
  Nick:
Yes :), It's to figure the best way out for the self feed path.
Well for sure it should be good capacitors that will hold it in self feed, sins this is not a system capable using the ground (yet). Might be if I could tweak and tune it with a freq. generator applied to the circuit just like Akula did.
Depending what happens, we shall see.
yeah, the right tuning caps are required and chokes, btw I figured out when using a slight smaller gauge of copper wire on chokes will minimize the ringing tone, as what I have done on my RMG.

Btw the battery seems like to hold the circuit running but be careful though.
We should replace the battery with a big cap to see if it will self feed that way, but the cap must have high capacitance for sure to ad the current the circuit needs.
but great to see this on video :)

Btw Which type of Ferrite are you using within the RMG air coils?
For Transmutation effect for output, because  the output will be greater if a higher grade of ferrite is places inside. To be positioned inside  for better output.

Try to make a mini bifilar for feedback, do not give alot of winds sins it gives alot of charging amps. revisit my videos you'll see how the bifilar works on the transformers.

Almost getting my hands on 2nd car battery again so I can start working with it again , has been a while. Been to busy on the ones  working already and powering my house for some months now :) (PM induction motor generator).

Soon I will try to build  a newer air core with ferrite for transmutation and with a Tesla coil inside somehow with orthogonal winding  to see it's effects on amplification. It will be interesting yet to see how the excitement will come about :)!

magpwr:
I wonder how Grum is doing with his Akula generator replication :), eager to try it out too but better to stick on some first to finish and maybe then to try out.

Btw how's the 1~3watt flyback generator coming along? have you tried a bit of
chubinidze's style with it? :) I would have tried it with that circuit.

Cheerz~

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4129 on: February 25, 2014, 09:25:42 AM »
  There are no inductive spikes going to the battery, as the RMG 65 turn feed back coil's AC voltage output, is both rectified and filtered down to 11 volts DC voltage.
So, it's not de-sulfating the battery, either.
  Both the electrolytic caps which are connected to the feed back coil are charging very quickly, and they do transfer that charge to the device input, battery, or both.
As can be seen by my connecting the feed back wire to the input of the device, which make the bulbs brighten up substantially.

  As mentioned, I need to redo my RMG coil to better conform to the yoke coil's output.  I'm starting to see just how many turns are needed, so that it will reach at least 130 volt AC output to the bulbs, as well as 15 volts DC output or so, from the feed back coil, back to the input. That's is my next step. 
 

Nick,

The acid test is to leave the RMG running whilst monitoring the battery voltage. I can assure you that your battery will after an initial rise in terminal voltage, be seen to discharge over time, no matter how you arrange the feedback circuit. You will eventually appreciate through experimenting, how others have been mislead into thinking that their pulsed current devices are showing signs of self-running. Your old battery may have appeared dead but I have spent a lot of time experimenting with old sulfated batteries and have found that very few are without capacity. A battery will exhibit high internal resistance through plate sulfation but still 'lock-up' a considerable charge that can only be released when the plates are partially cleaned of sulfation. This can be achieved by simply connecting the battery to a load that draws a pulsed current, such as the RMG or a Bedini energiser, so high voltage inductive 'spikes' are not essentially required to cause a desulfation process in a battery. I had not seen your previous video that shows that you had a rectifier and caps across the feedback winding. Nonetheless, the pulsed current is partially desulfating your battery which is why you are seeing the erratic light levels from your lamp load.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4130 on: February 25, 2014, 11:31:55 AM »
...a considerable charge that can only be released when the plates are partially cleaned of sulfation. This can be achieved by simply connecting the battery to a load that draws a pulsed current, such as the RMG or a Bedini energiser, so high voltage inductive 'spikes' are not essentially required to cause a desulfation process in a battery.
I would have edited that statement like this:
...so high voltage inductive 'spikes' from a feedback circuit are not essentially required to cause a desulfation process in a battery.

In other words: the same circuit that is being powered by the battery, can desulfate that battery, ...without any feedback winding or feedback circuit.

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« Reply #4131 on: February 25, 2014, 12:58:16 PM »
  Nick:
Yes :) , It's to figure the best way out for the self feed path.
Well for sure it should be good capacitors that will hold it in self feed, sins this is not a system capable using the ground (yet). Might be if I could tweak and tune it with a freq. generator applied to the circuit just like Akula did.
Depending what happens, we shall see.
yeah, the right tuning caps are required and chokes, btw I figured out when using a slight smaller gauge of copper wire on chokes will minimize the ringing tone, as what I have done on my RMG.

Btw the battery seems like to hold the circuit running but be careful though.
We should replace the battery with a big cap to see if it will self feed that way, but the cap must have high capacitance for sure to ad the current the circuit needs.
but great to see this on video :)

Btw Which type of Ferrite are you using within the RMG air coils?
For Transmutation effect for output, because  the output will be greater if a higher grade of ferrite is places inside. To be positioned inside  for better output.

Try to make a mini bifilar for feedback, do not give alot of winds sins it gives alot of charging amps. revisit my videos you'll see how the bifilar works on the transformers.

Almost getting my hands on 2nd car battery again so I can start working with it again , has been a while. Been to busy on the ones  working already and powering my house for some months now :) (PM induction motor generator).

Soon I will try to build  a newer air core with ferrite for transmutation and with a Tesla coil inside somehow with orthogonal winding  to see it's effects on amplification. It will be interesting yet to see how the excitement will come about :) !

magpwr:
I wonder how Grum is doing with his Akula generator replication :) , eager to try it out too but better to stick on some first to finish and maybe then to try out.

Btw how's the 1~3watt flyback generator coming along? have you tried a bit of
chubinidze's style with it? :) I would have tried it with that circuit.

Cheerz~

hi Geofusion,

I have hit another road block since i only got a 22AWG instead of 26AWG or 28AWG magnet wire to form a tesla coil.
I have calculated in mm that using this magnet wire that i got with 600 turns i will need estimated PVC 39cm in height.
The objective is to do 800...1000turns with around 26AWG or 28AWG within 39cm height.

The setup might look similar to Grumage on the outside but on the center it's where i plan to put the tesla coil(ferrites not decided yet if need to put it in).This would only happen only after i experiment with L/C surrounding the tesla coil just to observe what results i'm getting at resonance of L/C in order to power up the tesla coil.The actual outer pvp pipe(as seen in Akula or Grumage video) inner diameter of the outer pvc pipe would be covered with aluminum tape or (aluminum foil with thin double sided tape add on) at the top portion and half of inner pipe all the way down.Objective to radiate to outer coils.

Like your NST powered Tesla coil video where you bring your hand close and observe sparks to your hand.Just kidding.

I would also need to get a pure-sine wave inverter 500watt...1000watt from ebay.I will lookout for those with free shipment.

The only small notable improvement related to spark length on my 1watt hv circuit is that i have added 1nf capacitor in parallel with the only resistor 1Kohm in the circuit.
I can't use hv flyback transformer for Akula device since the high voltage was already generated by  inverter 220vots to yoke.From virtual experiment i discovered the output from just 1 turns was already creating dangerous high voltage around 1...2KV.


(This is considered high risk experiment)


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« Reply #4132 on: February 25, 2014, 01:48:01 PM »
I don't understand why you cant get it to work ?
Could it be because you have not tried it yourself?

And why have you complicated the physics ?
How is it complicated?

1 There is always an earth independent from the operating coils and main circuit ! It will not work without it
Then connect the Earth to your device and show us how it generates electric energy in that manner.

2 The other point is how does the system create a higher frequency to the input frequency...
For example with frequency multipliers.

This is about energy production nothing else ! For this there is many ways to achieve the same effect of power production with only a difference in the structure of output current.
What structure does current have besides magnitude and direction?

VOLTS = PRESSURE
I like simple mechanical explanations, too.
so enlighten us: Pressure of what? the force of pressure is exerted between what?

AMPS = FLOW
Flow of what?

CAPS = COMPRESSION
I think you meant "Capacitance"
....anyway, compression of what?

EARTH = ATTRACTION
What is being attracted to Earth in your device?  What simple mechanistic mechanism is responsible for this attraction? How are you coaxing that force of attraction to become electric energy?

If we include magnets that a change in ohms law will incur and if this change is coherent with the end formula for production of energy than any drop in resistance will permit a higher output in amps via the propagation of field lines of force being applied to the reactive part of the circuit .
SO let us add this as /  MAG 1 + MAG 2  ECT ECT ECT ....... now we begin to build up a simple picture of how we may grow the current !
That's hard to understand. Show us a simple diagram.

P.S.
Current is not energy.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #4133 on: February 25, 2014, 02:50:42 PM »
I would have edited that statement like this:
...so high voltage inductive 'spikes' from a feedback circuit are not essentially required to cause a desulfation process in a battery.

In other words: the same circuit that is being powered by the battery, can desulfate that battery, ...without any feedback winding or feedback circuit.

Agreed; your edit provides a clearer explanation of what I was trying to tell Nick.

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« Reply #4134 on: February 26, 2014, 11:52:11 PM »
I would have edited that statement like this:
...so high voltage inductive 'spikes' from a feedback circuit are not essentially required to cause a desulfation process in a battery.

In other words: the same circuit that is being powered by the battery, can desulfate that battery, ...without any feedback winding or feedback circuit.

Absolutely, If we scope the un smoothed input to a switched coil or similar we can see the pulsating input current. Just discharging a battery that is sulfated can improve the battery. And I think that the way the battery being conditioned is discharged makes a difference to how well and fast the battery is re-conditioned, the pulsating input can be used to trigger another circuit.

When we discharge a sulfated battery the current through it desulfates it, it's very simple. Often to speed up the desulfation of a battery I will pulse charge or trickle charge a battery until it has some charge showing then I discharge the battery with a good load for that battery, eg. a 7 Ampere hour battery I might use 1 Amp discharge current and a 35 Ampere hour battery I might use 3 amperes discharge current. And try not to discharge the battery below 12 volts by too much.

It works like this, if you use a partially sulfated battery it will improve in capacity and reduce the internal resistance.

The discharging of the battery being conditioned does just as much or almost as much to desulfate the battery as the charging does. If it didn't, it just would not make sense.

It's getting enough charge in the battery to begin with to be able to discharge it that is the trick, and however that works best for you is best, some ways work quicker than others.

Also when a battery in good condition is loaded moderately it first drops voltage quite a bit, but then when the chemical action catches up to the demand on the battery the voltage will rise while under the load. Basically when the battery is first loaded it does not exactly match the chemical action with the load demand, but it does equalize to a point where the voltage drops continuously from a certain point on wards.

I do not understand how people would not realize that the loading of a battery causing current to flow though it would not help to dissolve the hard sulfate.

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« Reply #4135 on: February 27, 2014, 08:56:14 AM »

I do not understand how people would not realize that the loading of a battery causing current to flow though it would not help to dissolve the hard sulfate.

Cheers

In my opinion this is the major reason why some experimenters are mislead into reporting that their devices display signs of self-running and why after a time they fail to repeat the 'charging' effect after a few operating cycles with an old poorly conditioned battery. I believe that even Bedini has in the past misinterpreted this effect as caused by aetheric / free energy charging. Nick may be reading these posts thinking that we are disinformation freaks / gov agents trying to burst his bubble but I'm sure he will come to realise that there is a lot to learn about battery vagaries and the self-charging effect is just one of them.

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« Reply #4136 on: February 27, 2014, 10:22:44 AM »
In my opinion this is the major reason why some experimenters are mislead into reporting that their devices display signs of self-running and why after a time they fail to repeat the 'charging' effect after a few operating cycles with an old poorly conditioned battery. I believe that even Bedini has in the past misinterpreted this effect as caused by aetheric / free energy charging. Nick may be reading these posts thinking that we are disinformation freaks / gov agents trying to burst his bubble but I'm sure he will come to realise that there is a lot to learn about battery vagaries and the self-charging effect is just one of them.

I've spent quite a bit of time observing the behavior of batteries in different arrangements, I was also confused by it long ago by the claims of the Arfican Guy Promoting Bob Boyce's controller and transformer apparently "self charging" a battery. He claimed that after the night of operation the battery was charged to 13.8 volts, and has been only charging his battery like that for his daughters toy car for some time. Obviously he lied for notoriety or for Bob or to try to justify his initial mistaken claim. It was featured on Peswiki.

One of the reasons I believe nothing they (PesWiki) promote, they wouldn't know if their arse was on fire.  ;D They raised money for him to do more experiments based on his claims. Now I know the effect was simply a vaguery of less than brand new Lead Acid battery function. But did he know it at the time ? Not sure but he still lied about the charging of the battery for the child's toy car. Only way to excuse that is if the claimant admits his folly and apologizes for making false claims and lying. Still won;t mean anyone will trust him again.

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« Reply #4137 on: February 28, 2014, 01:28:06 AM »
I've spent quite a bit of time observing the behavior of batteries in different arrangements, I was also confused by it long ago by the claims of the Arfican Guy Promoting Bob Boyce's controller and transformer apparently "self charging" a battery. He claimed that after the night of operation the battery was charged to 13.8 volts, and has been only charging his battery like that for his daughters toy car for some time. Obviously he lied for notoriety or for Bob or to try to justify his initial mistaken claim. It was featured on Peswiki.

One of the reasons I believe nothing they (PesWiki) promote, they wouldn't know if their arse was on fire.  ;D They raised money for him to do more experiments based on his claims. Now I know the effect was simply a vaguery of less than brand new Lead Acid battery function. But did he know it at the time ? Not sure but he still lied about the charging of the battery for the child's toy car. Only way to excuse that is if the claimant admits his folly and apologizes for making false claims and lying. Still won;t mean anyone will trust him again.

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Hi Farmhand,


I agree with you 100% regarding the behavior of batteries. I have made observations with regards to 'testers' fooling, not only themselves, but also unwittingly stupid investors. If you look at my YouTube slide show on my Inductive Resistor Heater research, you will see that I had to resort to a rather crazy start up procedure to insure good linear discharge of my batteries during both types of tests ... pulsed and resistive loading (outline at the end of the slide show). Specifically, after a lead-acid battery is properly charged (for its type -flooded, gel, AGM, etc.),  and then let to sit and stabilize at a RESTING VOLTAGE (of its choosing... could take hours). when you load it, resistive or pulsed, the battery voltage will drop and then hover at a 'low' plateau and then will begin to rise ... sometimes to above the RESTING VOLTAGE and also hover there for a while and then FINALLY begin a fairly linear drop under a constant load.


I have witnessed demonstrations to investors where the scam artist ONLY demonstrates for the interval leading up to RESTING VOLTAGE. So the scam artist loads the battery (with maybe a light bulb), the voltage drops, he-she-it turns on their 'magic' circuit and the battery begins to 'charge' (or so it seems).  The investor hands over loads of money and ... well, there it is.


I have actually plotted that behavior as part of my tests and presented it in my test data as shown in my posts elsewhere ...  just to account for this so as to be thorough.


Regards,


Greg

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« Reply #4138 on: February 28, 2014, 06:20:49 AM »
Hold back a bit there ! I have charged  a battery over night with a transformer that was not plugged into the grid. I would be happy to open up that a bit wit you ! But if you have so convinced yourself it can not be achieved than who am I to change your mind.

Some things will only happen when you have the correct formula to begin with ! If you just go by chance it may never happen .

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Atommix


Hi Atommix,


I'm not sure which specific post you are replying to, or commenting on, but  I'm interested in knowing more about what you mean when you said you:


"have charged a battery over night with a transformer that was not plugged into the grid."


What does that mean exactly?


Thank you,


gmeast

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« Reply #4139 on: March 01, 2014, 09:19:15 PM »
hi Geofusion,

I have hit another road block since i only got a 22AWG instead of 26AWG or 28AWG magnet wire to form a tesla coil.
I have calculated in mm that using this magnet wire that i got with 600 turns i will need estimated PVC 39cm in height.
The objective is to do 800...1000turns with around 26AWG or 28AWG within 39cm height.

The setup might look similar to Grumage on the outside but on the center it's where i plan to put the tesla coil(ferrites not decided yet if need to put it in).This would only happen only after i experiment with L/C surrounding the tesla coil just to observe what results i'm getting at resonance of L/C in order to power up the tesla coil.The actual outer pvp pipe(as seen in Akula or Grumage video) inner diameter of the outer pvc pipe would be covered with aluminum tape or (aluminum foil with thin double sided tape add on) at the top portion and half of inner pipe all the way down.Objective to radiate to outer coils.

Like your NST powered Tesla coil video where you bring your hand close and observe sparks to your hand.Just kidding.

I would also need to get a pure-sine wave inverter 500watt...1000watt from ebay.I will lookout for those with free shipment.

The only small notable improvement related to spark length on my 1watt hv circuit is that i have added 1nf capacitor in parallel with the only resistor 1Kohm in the circuit.
I can't use hv flyback transformer for Akula device since the high voltage was already generated by  inverter 220vots to yoke.From virtual experiment i discovered the output from just 1 turns was already creating dangerous high voltage around 1...2KV.


(This is considered high risk experiment)

Hi magpwr :)

 ahh  ok . yes true that, you will need a 26 to 28AWG wire for it for sure to manage atleast 1000 winds on the  specific PVC measurement that is needed. I have 28 Gauge but that will be used for the Chubinidze :) soon that I will replicate too.

Yes I have seen Some aluminium covering inside the pvc pipe within Akula's video, yes it's al about resonance of the L/C , Might be that he used aluminium tape, which I have alot here, That might be something that I can use while I have the chance to replicate it soon, and try it out. Oh yeah it's the radiate outer coils with it hehe :)

Haha, yeah the NST tesla coil Project is something different, Besides me touching it and holding it, but it gave me to opportunity to explore the tesla coil very deeply to see what els can be achieved, even with the human body, and have it all in memo :).
But it's limited till their because of the home made salt water caps I used, of X capacitance. all experimental.
I will be showing something els soon , of which I find amazing,
When holding on to the tesla coil and off ground, it seems to Enhance your Vibrational field of your own spiritual energetic body, and electrifying it, so you could turn on lights from a distance passing you hand over them around half a meter/ meter  away.
 
Yes that is also what you will need man :), pure sine wave inverter, I have mines already, 2 of them, one 800watt and 350watt.
when time comes they will come to use.

Ah alright it's becoming more clearer now for me to know how your flyback circuit has :). Yes simple one indeed , as I have tried many hehe.
Btw the 1nf cap, what is the voltage?

Yes the Yoke is powered by the Circuit and the inverter, but it can only be tweaked with the freq. circuit connected to the IGBT's or mosfets. haha oh yeah, that I have from experience here with some of my experiments, having 2 winds or just 1 , dangerous amount of HV can be produced that can do harm if not carefull.

I've been doing some testings on some other L/C resonance Akula style and seems to be a awesome result of OU. but I will be applying it on my coils see what I can come up with.



Use this setup on your 1 watt hv generator to Tune the frequency. as example
picture below

cheerz :)