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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8439184 times)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #240 on: October 04, 2012, 10:21:03 PM »
I managed to power up the completed device without the AT PSU before I'm away from the bench. Nothing special was observed during tuning with various caps across L2 and adjustment of VCO and no rise in output voltage on any winding. I'm not happy about the nano interface to the co-ax driver transistor as distortion of the pulse is visible at the collector. The nano with output disconnected produces clean sharp pulses. A ground earth was also applied as per schematic.
What is the amplitude of your nanopulser's output?
Also what is its rise time, pulse width and PRF ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #241 on: October 05, 2012, 08:51:03 AM »
That's a good formula if you know the dimensions and inductance L.
From my experience, L at 10kHz is very different than L at 10MHz.  I don't even try to measure at GHz...

Thanks for the comment, it is important.
Generally accepted in many devices to measure the inductance of a standard frequency - 1 kHz. Difference inductance at higher frequencies - associated with measuring capacitance of coil, core, etc.
Therefore, the standard measurements used  the same frequency - 1 kHz, to avoid symptoms of parasitic capacitances, because this device, in fact measures the total impedance of the reactive elements, so there is a difference.
At 1 kHz the parasitic capacitance is not manifested and the accuracy of measurements obtained high.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #242 on: October 05, 2012, 10:11:26 AM »
I suggest a table to compare types of digital integrated circuits
(for nano pulser)
I think, Dally not correctly indicated the replacement of ICs
 
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« Reply #242 on: October 05, 2012, 10:11:26 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #243 on: October 05, 2012, 10:32:09 AM »
I suggest a table to compare types of digital integrated circuits
(for nano pulser)
I think, Dally not correctly indicated the replacement of ICs
Wow!, I didn't think that such compilation of Russian and foreign logic families existed. Very useful stuff.

BTW: What russian forum has the latest news on Dally's v2 device?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #244 on: October 05, 2012, 10:33:35 AM »
Is there a way to build up to a voltage and then have that voltage released?


Like a zener will reverse at say 3.3, but it will still be a 3.3v drop in the current... is there something that can build up to say 4.5V then have a voltage drop of 0.7 until the input is less than 0.7?




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« Reply #245 on: October 05, 2012, 10:46:29 AM »
is there something that can build up to say 4.5V then have a voltage drop of 0.7 until the input is less than 0.7?
A Thyristor crowbar will do that.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #246 on: October 05, 2012, 11:03:23 AM »
Is there a way to build up to a voltage and then have that voltage released?


Like a zener will reverse at say 3.3, but it will still be a 3.3v drop in the current... is there something that can build up to say 4.5V then have a voltage drop of 0.7 until the input is less than 0.7?

You could also try an SCR - with a zener and/or resistive divider network to control the base of the SCR.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #247 on: October 05, 2012, 11:06:29 AM »
BTW: What russian forum has the latest news on Dally's v2 device?
So far the silence

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #248 on: October 05, 2012, 11:12:49 AM »
@d3x0r

An uninjunction  transistor will do that at a low current level, for example, a 2N2646. Also, you could do that with a comparator driving a power bjt or MOSFET if you need power.

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« Reply #249 on: October 05, 2012, 02:54:27 PM »
That's my point!  A saturable transformer is difficult to match. 
Its ferrimagnetic core has many parameters that need to be carefully tuned (e.g. dimensions, the AL value, BH characteristic - saturation point, permeability, frequency response).
You cannot just write: "use a 3cm OD ferrite torroid with 12 turns of wire" and expect it to work as advertised just because it worked for you or someone else.
The results are unpredictable unless you use the same core.

@Hoppy
I agree, but do you know where to obtain exactly the same core as Dally's?
If you mean the ferrite in nanopulser M6000HM 7*4*2
So today I found only M600 , M1000 and M2000HM permeability . Dimensions is the same 7*4*2 .
Dally wrote that we can use M3000HM . Not so far from M2000HM .

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #250 on: October 05, 2012, 02:56:53 PM »
If you mean the ferrite in nanopulser M6000HM 7*4*2
So today I found only M600 , M1000 and M2000HM permeability . Dimensions is the same 7*4*2 .
Dally wrote that we can use M3000HM . Not so far from M2000HM .
Welcome back!

@All
What is this spiral transformer made out of coaxial cable?
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« Reply #251 on: October 05, 2012, 09:36:44 PM »
Hello to all. Greetings from Romania
 
This is my first post here. It’s enough to say that I’m watching this forum (and a few others) for quite some time now. I know now after months of reading what we all share a common passion and we all are a little bit crazy to believe we can achieve the goal of OU. Who’s not crazy in this crazy days?  :)
 
Regarding the recent Dally’s experiments I have a few questions. Some of them are logical questions, other are technical. If to my questions the answer was already given maybe you can point me in the right direction. If one of my statements are wrong please correct them asap.
 
1. Logical ones:
 
I think Dally said that he was trying to tune up his electronics when suddenly the effect appear.
 
I don’t have a problem with this statement, but:
a) does he expect to believe us that he was mixing the 2 generated frequency and after some tuning it’s all done? I hope not. Maybe for him it’s like this. For the rest of us it’s not quite that easy because we do not know what we are doing. And we do not know what we are doing, because:
b) we do not know the working principle of his device. It’s there any chance to ask him somewhere about the working principle of his device? I will be very glad to hear something like this: “my device it’s a NMR device. Based on this researchers conclusions regarding the study of that and that and that (maybe quote some of them) I have concluded that if I stimulate the atoms of  nitrogen with the exact frequency of 27.54 MHz by means of a nanopulser, with minimum 8513 joules of energy, and align previously the spins with a polarized magnetic field of minimum 0.5T, we can achieve OU. Or something … anything regarding the bases of his device. Otherwise I don’t think we can do much about it, only presumptions, and everything that he shared with us 'til now it’s for nothing. Sure I learn about something new and extraordinary and that’s the nanopulser. And what’s going on in a coaxial cable. But that’s all. We cannot reproduce his work without knowing what's going on. It's like recreating the wheel after we seen it some place else but we do not know the working principle. We never saw something rotating until know.
 
His device seems to be a very well carefully design and a very delicate piece of engineering (if it’s not a fake) . It’s not a bunch of electronics connected together, some coils winded with some wire after that fingers cross and let’s hope for the best. And voila lights up.
 
When he conducted his tests for sure he based his work on some theories and he was searching for something. Vasily and Сергей В. (btw, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you shared with us), can you ask some general guidelines from Dally, like the ones described above? It’s there any place on the web where we can contact him? (I only understand russian by means of google-translate). We all know about the approximations of the translations of google and the missing of technical terms, slang expressions in it's dictionaries. I will do it myself if you can point me in the right direction and provide help with the translation.
 
2. Technical questions
 
Until I decide to built up a replica I have just 2 questions (many of the other questions I have, already have been answered or they are in the waiting state like this one: what’s the frequency and the amplitude of the tension applied on L1?). Btw did I said L1? If so …
 
a)         quote ”The first coil was wounded long time ago and originally was a secundar of Dally's Tesla Coil experiment.” If that’s the case are this statements correct?
-           if Dally was using a coil that he has found it suitable somewhere in his lab then the number of turns and the wire diameter are not something critical (I’m not talking about 45 turns instead of 475).
-           Also the former diameter it’s not something critical (if you are not constructing an exact replica)
b)         quote “Core ring must be cooled by RADIATOR OF TRANSISTOR OR THYRISTOR” can this ring be cooled with other methods (I’m thinking why not submerge the ring in transformer oil and the tank containing the ring and the oil cooled with some radiators) The exact question is: the ring must be cooled by the radiator of the transistor or a separate one it’s just the same? I don’t like mounting on same radiator 2 elements that are heating – it’s a personal choice.
 
All the best,
Mihai

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #252 on: October 05, 2012, 11:37:31 PM »
Hello to all. Greetings from Romania
 
This is my first post here. It’s enough to say that I’m watching this forum (and a few others) for quite some time now. I know now after months of reading what we all share a common passion and we all are a little bit crazy to believe we can achieve the goal of OU. Who’s not crazy in this crazy days?  :)
 
Regarding the recent Dally’s experiments I have a few questions. Some of them are logical questions, other are technical. If to my questions the answer was already given maybe you can point me in the right direction. If one of my statements are wrong please correct them asap.
 
1. Logical ones:
 
I think Dally said that he was trying to tune up his electronics when suddenly the effect appear.
 
I don’t have a problem with this statement, but:
a) does he expect to believe us that he was mixing the 2 generated frequency and after some tuning it’s all done? I hope not. Maybe for him it’s like this. For the rest of us it’s not quite that easy because we do not know what we are doing. And we do not know what we are doing, because:
b) we do not know the working principle of his device. It’s there any chance to ask him somewhere about the working principle of his device? I will be very glad to hear something like this: “my device it’s a NMR device. Based on this researchers conclusions regarding the study of that and that and that (maybe quote some of them) I have concluded that if I stimulate the atoms of  nitrogen with the exact frequency of 27.54 MHz by means of a nanopulser, with minimum 8513 joules of energy, and align previously the spins with a polarized magnetic field of minimum 0.5T, we can achieve OU. Or something … anything regarding the bases of his device. Otherwise I don’t think we can do much about it, only presumptions, and everything that he shared with us 'til now it’s for nothing. Sure I learn about something new and extraordinary and that’s the nanopulser. And what’s going on in a coaxial cable. But that’s all. We cannot reproduce his work without knowing what's going on. It's like recreating the wheel after we seen it some place else but we do not know the working principle. We never saw something rotating until know.
 
His device seems to be a very well carefully design and a very delicate piece of engineering (if it’s not a fake) . It’s not a bunch of electronics connected together, some coils winded with some wire after that fingers cross and let’s hope for the best. And voila lights up.
 
When he conducted his tests for sure he based his work on some theories and he was searching for something. Vasily and Сергей В. (btw, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything you shared with us), can you ask some general guidelines from Dally, like the ones described above? It’s there any place on the web where we can contact him? (I only understand russian by means of google-translate). We all know about the approximations of the translations of google and the missing of technical terms, slang expressions in it's dictionaries. I will do it myself if you can point me in the right direction and provide help with the translation.
 
2. Technical questions
 
Until I decide to built up a replica I have just 2 questions (many of the other questions I have, already have been answered or they are in the waiting state like this one: what’s the frequency and the amplitude of the tension applied on L1?). Btw did I said L1? If so …
 
a)         quote ”The first coil was wounded long time ago and originally was a secundar of Dally's Tesla Coil experiment.” If that’s the case are this statements correct?
-           if Dally was using a coil that he has found it suitable somewhere in his lab then the number of turns and the wire diameter are not something critical (I’m not talking about 45 turns instead of 475).
-           Also the former diameter it’s not something critical (if you are not constructing an exact replica)


I would think the driver coil isn't super critical....  the step-up transformer is 3:70 ratio, and is driven with 12V, so output should be 280V.  The frequency of the sound from the toroid is 4.2-4.8Khz, so we can assume that the frequency is a multiple of that... plus having built a replication close to the schematics, that is the frequency range that the circuit yields.  The second oscillator seems to be 50hz, with a pulse width probably equal to the length of the coax cable.  The coax is driven at the 280V from the driver coil, with a 2x step-up transformer so should be 560V, but through a lower number of turns than the L4, so L4 should be a step-up from that.... but then the pulse goes + and - as it comes back the same distance it went... so it's not that simple.


L2 is a LC tank in harmonic with the driver frequency, and is probably not 100% critical as long as it is in harmony with the driver.




b)         quote “Core ring must be cooled by RADIATOR OF TRANSISTOR OR THYRISTOR” can this ring be cooled with other methods (I’m thinking why not submerge the ring in transformer oil and the tank containing the ring and the oil cooled with some radiators) The exact question is: the ring must be cooled by the radiator of the transistor or a separate one it’s just the same? I don’t like mounting on same radiator 2 elements that are heating – it’s a personal choice.
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I would think that cooling is cooling....

All the best,
Mihai


Attached the belkin and (...) book that was mentioned by Dally for the nano-pulse shaper... he says Fig 22 is the basis of his nano pulse shaper; the spec of this core is 7-4-2, 3000HM, .... 6 windings:12 windings... 


I was considering resonance of the primary L1 circuit... L1 is attached only to another coil on the toroid, but one side is attached to ground... the 70 turns off the step-up toroid are 24mH, the L1 is 2.25mH ... since they are basically a series coil, would be total 26.25mH ?  If I put a 50nf capacitor in series with these coils that would give it a resonant frequency of 4.393Khz... Or is the factor of the magnetic resonance in the toroid the more important factor?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #253 on: October 05, 2012, 11:45:56 PM »
If you mean the ferrite in nanopulser M6000HM 7*4*2
So today I found only M600 , M1000 and M2000HM permeability . Dimensions is the same 7*4*2 .
Dally wrote that we can use M3000HM . Not so far from M2000HM .

Regards


In my prior message I attached a PDF that was the belkin and ____ book that dally said he based his nano-pulser shaper on (Fig 22) in which the specification is 3000MH....

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« Reply #254 on: October 06, 2012, 10:27:27 AM »
I guess I was wrong about the frequency of the nanopulser...


In that I'm back to having no clue.
I got some alternate LSxx00's to try... but I couldn't get it going again.


I started playing with a circuit simulator, and the simulator starts with a very high speed oscillation....


I dunno if I had a flaw in the resistors I chose; but increasing the resistances don't slow it down...


maybe it's voltage regulators... maybe it's the caps I chose to filter the power rails... Mine didn't behave this way; and if it did behave this way... which is really sorta what I expected... it's just gate delay toggles for the delay and the capcitor and resistor don't matter; so maybe I blame the simulator?


In the simulation, more current is coming out from the logic gates than is going in from the variable resistor.  This explains why the variable resistor really seems to do nothing....
« Last Edit: October 06, 2012, 12:24:39 PM by d3x0r »

 

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