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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10430209 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23640 on: September 24, 2022, 10:41:11 PM »
AG,

Please, emphasize on that , trying to picture it.
Do you mean the Inductor should be 1/4 from bottom too?

Maxolous
No that doesn't work the same way, lets assume the Tesla coil is in resonance to start with
get your scope probe and try it move it (a small difference a way from the coil as you do it)
you will find you just get maximum output 3/4 of the way up the tube.
The other strange thing is the way you wound the coil, When you empty a sink full of water
which way does it go down the plug hole clock wise or anti-clockwise ? depends on how you
wind your Tesla coil.

Sil

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23641 on: September 24, 2022, 10:56:47 PM »
AG,

I get what your saying about the direction of wind on the tesla Coil but the
water direction going down the plug hole might not be the best analogy.

Depends on which Hemisphere (N or S) you're in!  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTTJJAiQFRc 

Just sayin...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23642 on: September 25, 2022, 12:26:53 AM »
So what if you live in Uganda and your smack dab where there is no rotating vortex
who you going to ask in the sticks ?

It's right hand rotation in the north and left in the south and the 6 ft in between
Move your device!  ;D ;D

So on your working device how did you lock your peak sine wave katcher output
for maximum ? or are you just using a Tesla coil ?

Sil
« Last Edit: September 25, 2022, 08:40:51 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23643 on: September 25, 2022, 01:15:45 AM »
As far as I recall, I never tried to "modulate the kacher".
What I tried was to synch the Kacher burst to be on the top (or bottom or anywhere in between) of the sine wave peak from the Inductor / Grenade signal.
This was doable, but did not show any special effects to happen.
What I also did try was to get both the Inductor and the Grenade resonance points to meet (to be on the same frequency) by adding / removing series (inductor) and parallel (grenade) capacitors.
It turns out that this is not possible as the resonance points seem to resist each other (like a band pass filter), so when tuning the Inductor to say 24KHz resonance, then tuning the Grenade also to this 24Khz resonance frequency, the Inductor will be OFF resonance and vice versa, see this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENOekS6zQos
It is unclear to me if it is NEEDED to have both Inductor and Grenade on the same resonance frequency, but it seems logical to me.
Itsu

In a series resonance LC circuit configuration, the two resonances X C and X L cancel each other out.

In actual, rather than ideal components, the flow of current is opposed, generally by the resistance of the windings of the coil.
Therefore, the current supplied to the circuit is max at resonance.
https://www.elprocus.com/series-and-parallel-lc-circuit-resonance

some other explanation is here:
The reactive branch currents are the same and opposite
when two resonances, XC and XL, are present. As a result, they
cancel
each other out, leaving the key line with the smallest amount of current.
In this state, the total current is at its lowest, while the total impedance is at its highest.
https://www.linquip.com/blog/what-is-lc-circuit

How in a parallel resonance circuit do the two branch currents cancel each other practically or diagrammatically?
https://www.quora.com/How-in-a-parallel-resonance-circuit-do-the-two-branch-currents-cancel-each-other-practically-or-diagrammatically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAbY2AevWv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi24SpKYYoQ it is good to see it.

you may exercise yourself here:
https://www.sarthaks.com/3018902/the-current-flowing-in-two-branches-of-parallel-resonant-circuit-at-resonance-are



Additional link for these of you who are more  advanced  is here:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/a-Existence-of-splitting-two-energy-levels-when-two-resonances-have-same-frequency-but_fig3_247777140
that explanation  includes phase and/or mode dependency factor.
Unfortunately I don't think it will  "talk" to SolarLab or NickZ .
In my opinion they are not there yet.
Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23644 on: September 25, 2022, 04:32:12 AM »
No that doesn't work the same way, lets assume the Tesla coil is in resonance to start with
get your scope probe and try it move it (a small difference a way from the coil as you do it)
you will find you just get maximum output 3/4 of the way up the tube.
The other strange thing is the way you wound the coil, When you empty a sink full of water
which way does it go down the plug hole clock wise or anti-clockwise ? depends on how you
wind your Tesla coil.

Sil

Yeah! AG, I think that's important too. Sergey Stalker referred to it in this video. Am sure he was particular about his location when he said he winds Electric field- counterclockwise and Magnetic field- clockwise as a rule.
https://youtu.be/v6FrGTF731o

Maxolous

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23645 on: September 25, 2022, 05:11:54 AM »

In a series resonance LC circuit configuration, the two resonances X C and X L cancel each other out.

In actual, rather than ideal components, the flow of current is opposed, generally by the resistance of the windings of the coil.
Therefore, the current supplied to the circuit is max at resonance.
I agree with you , in other words only resistance will be left, so maximum current is drawn.

https://www.elprocus.com/series-and-parallel-lc-circuit-resonance

some other explanation is here:
The reactive branch currents are the same and opposite
when two resonances, XC and XL, are present. As a result, they
cancel
each other out, leaving the key line with the smallest amount of current.
In this state, the total current is at its lowest, while the total impedance is at its highest.
Am sure here you're referring to Parallel resonance which results to high impedance at resonance. Hence, it is called "Rejector cct". While at the other hand Series resonance is referred to as "Acceptor cct"

The frequency at which this occur is called "resonance freq".

XL=XC ,
where X =WL and XC=-1/Wc
 ( am taking W for Omega)

WL = 2πfL
Wc = 1/2πfc (where f is freq)

Therefore; 2πfL =1/2πfC
                   4π²f²L=1/C
                    f² =1/4π²LC
                   
                    Fr  =1/2π√LC
This is now that frequency the resonance occurred and it is called resonance frequency.

Most devices are based on this phenomena.

Ruslan once said in 2016 that pple should raise the voltage of the inductor by tens of volts. In other words, maybe up to 60v. That means increasing it from 3turns to somewhat 5-7turns. I tried it, the result was not pleasant. At series resonance of sort where the impedance is cancelled out and you are only left with the resistance of conductor only, the current that will be circulating there would be up to 70-100Amps. Most folks complain of heated up inductor and grenade. That is the cause. It just like the device of Barbosa and Leal where the current circulating in their loop is much also when read with a clamp meter.
In the case of this device, having such current oscillating at resonance is a matter of importance.

Maxolous.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23646 on: September 25, 2022, 05:44:05 AM »


Ruslan once said in 2016 that pple should raise the voltage of the inductor by tens of volts. In other words, maybe up to 60v. That means increasing it from 3turns to somewhat 5-7turns. I tried it, the result was not pleasant. At series resonance of sort where the impedance is cancelled out and you are only left with the resistance of conductor only, the current that will be circulating there would be up to 70-100Amps. Most folks complain of heated up inductor and grenade. That is the cause. It just like the device of Barbosa and Leal where the current circulating in their loop is much also when read with a clamp meter.
In the case of this device, having such current oscillating at resonance is a matter of importance.

Maxolous.

This is excerpt from Ruslan in 2016. Translated for you

Good time of the day.  Maybe we can find common ground here.  I must say right away that I do not sit much on the forums.  No time !  However, now for the 5th time I am assembling the Akulina installation to increase power.  There are ideas .... But in fact, people are looking for a little bit of everything.  All these systems operate on the basis of standing and traveling waves.  You must first catch the movement of particles in the coil.  Those.  as Kapanadze does with a tester or ammeter.  Only at HF ​​frequencies, no ammeter will help and you will need to catch it with an oscilloscope.  First rule : Wind the coil 40 meters .  2. Find out its resonant frequency (1/4 wave) Inductor 1/4 \u003d 10 meters of the same wire (for example 2.5 mm) Connect the generator to a 10-meter coil, drive rectangles at a frequency of 1 MHz and crawl higher until 40 meters  no sinusoid will appear.  Maximum amplitude.  It is advisable to take a normal, laboratory generator!  With adjustable output from 0 to 20 volts.  We achieve the maximum amplitude and move tenths of kilohertz until the sine starts to dance.  This is your wave resonance!!!  We fix the frequency and voltage.  It is for this that everything will have to be done by generators.  Next ... We shake the Tesla under this frequency to get the effect.  Then we do everything as I did or Shark.  In this case, everyone wants to repeat this device.  Forward !  We fix everything beautifully and firmly, not forgetting that the resonance and effect can escape in cases of fastenings on the terminals.  We need to get the effect itself and the work, and not the finished device.  As soon as you begin to understand what to do next, you yourself will be able to move.  So .... Tesla, as we know, also wets the sinusoid.  Let's say your frequency is 1.821 MHz.  Crap frequency, but alas.  We'll have to tune the Tesla to it.  The shark used a shnyaga between Tesla and the toroid (Antenna) above the inductor.  This is just fine tuning.  It is needed before launch.  Then the system holds and it doesn’t matter where it slipped within small limits.  But !  Again ... What goes where?  We apply a rectangle signal to the Inductor with a frequency of 1/50.  We consider: 1820: 50 \u003d 36.4 kHz pumping with a rectangle through a decoupling (Pot) with 23-29 turns of wire 2.5 squares.  I repeat, you need to make the voltage on this harmonic not 10-20 volts, but an order of magnitude higher.  Up to about 50-60 volts and get the same dancing effect at the output.  Further !  Do not forget that Tesla does not need strong power.  It is not necessary to start up sparks and wet it so that it pierces.  This is not necessary !!!  Better to make a controlled Tesla.  We continue: A voltage of 195-200 volts will appear at the output.  This voltage will not be higher.  Why ?  We'll come back to this later.  It is necessary to wind the transformer - reactor (Coil) in such a way to get the desired voltage.  This requires experimentation.  Remember that we are pushing the current in the reactor with a shear wave.  Created by Tesla.  Another wave is formed in the coil under the influence of pumping with rectangles.  The particles of which constantly rotate left and right.  Giving them the movement of a pulsating Tesla, we accelerate them in the conductor itself.  This is a gemmoroy understanding, but a fact.  Tesla must operate in one half-cycle or from one arm of the transistor.  It is desirable to control Tesla with a pack - a pulse generator.  When everything is clearly set up, you will see how the effect manifests itself when changing the width of the pack.  Tesla's consumption is scanty, and the pumping does not strain at all.  The output current is up to 7 amperes and the voltage is 200-209 volts.  Light bulbs and PSU pulse work well.  Now for the pickup: 1. The coil is connected through a diode bridge.  No parallel capacitors!!!  2. You only need one half wave from the Tesla.  Otherwise, Tesla will take back what it gave

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23647 on: September 25, 2022, 11:09:48 AM »

Dear Wesley,

Although I agree with what you wrote, it does not address the problem I was describing being: "It turns out that this is not possible as the resonance points seem to resist each other (like a band pass filter)" IMO.

We have 2 tightly coupled coils (Grenade and Inductor) and each need to be in resonance on the same frequency (again, not sure if this is a requirement).

I can tune the inductor to resonance say 24 kHz using some series capacitors without any problem (having Xl and Xc canceling each other leaving R only, so minimum impedance etc.).

When then tuning the tightly coupled Grenade to that same 24 kHz resonance frequency by either using series (series resonance) or parallel (parallel resonance) capacitors, it will do that, but at the same time
it will de-tune the 24 kHz resonance frequency point of the Inductor and vice versa.

I referred to the behavior of an over coupled band pass filter mentioned here in Fig. 4:  https://www.robkalmeijer.nl/techniek/electronica/radiotechniek/hambladen/qst/1991/12/page29/index.html

So the 2 resonance peaks of the Grenade and the Inductor will never be on the same 24KHz frequency.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23648 on: September 25, 2022, 02:50:20 PM »
Dear Wesley,

Although I agree with what you wrote, it does not address the problem I was describing being: "It turns out that this is not possible as the resonance points seem to resist each other (like a band pass filter)" IMO.

We have 2 tightly coupled coils (Grenade and Inductor) and each need to be in resonance on the same frequency (again, not sure if this is a requirement).

I can tune the inductor to resonance say 24 kHz using some series capacitors without any problem (having Xl and Xc canceling each other leaving R only, so minimum impedance etc.).

When then tuning the tightly coupled Grenade to that same 24 kHz resonance frequency by either using series (series resonance) or parallel (parallel resonance) capacitors, it will do that, but at the same time
it will de-tune the 24 kHz resonance frequency point of the Inductor and vice versa.

I referred to the behavior of an over coupled band pass filter mentioned here in Fig. 4:  https://www.robkalmeijer.nl/techniek/electronica/radiotechniek/hambladen/qst/1991/12/page29/index.html

So the 2 resonance peaks of the Grenade and the Inductor will never be on the same 24KHz frequency.

Regards Itsu

I have never tried to put caps to tune grenade to res. It's worth exploring. We're you putting it in parallel or series. Is it just after grenade's terminals or after series 28 turns.

Maxolous

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« Reply #23649 on: September 25, 2022, 03:34:19 PM »
   I suppose that what is being called resonance is the best highest output, with the least resistance.
The point that I was making is that although you can figure at what point this resonance should happen at, there is no one home, there. And, there is no one home, at any other point on the inductorl/grenade circuits, that will allow for self running.
That is the real problem, as we have all turned and turned those tuning pots, only to find that no amount of tuning nor using the 2000v wima caps brings home any needed results. So, the real question is why...and what to do about it.

   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23650 on: September 25, 2022, 04:53:36 PM »
Pardon me ,

Look https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1hsdku
Can you do that without taking amps from power source , just that?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23651 on: September 25, 2022, 05:11:38 PM »
I have never tried to put caps to tune grenade to res. It's worth exploring. We're you putting it in parallel or series. Is it just after grenade's terminals or after series 28 turns.

Maxolous

Max.,

it's hard to say if the Grenade is in parallel or series resonance, look at the drawing at the green circle.

The caps there are in parallel with the output transformer, but in series with the Grenade and 28 turn yoke coil.

Itsu


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« Reply #23652 on: September 25, 2022, 07:00:08 PM »
Max.,

it's hard to say if the Grenade is in parallel or series resonance, look at the drawing at the green circle.

The caps there are in parallel with the output transformer, but in series with the Grenade and 28 turn yoke coil.

Itsu


  Itsu: Green circle is how I have my tuning caps installed, but, they can get very hot and crack, even the 2000v wima caps. And are needed to tune the grenade output coil, before the full bridge rectifier.

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« Reply #23653 on: September 25, 2022, 09:16:05 PM »
Max.,

it's hard to say if the Grenade is in parallel or series resonance, look at the drawing at the green circle.

The caps there are in parallel with the output transformer, but in series with the Grenade and 28 turn yoke coil.

Itsu

Itsu,
It's parallel as far as the grenade position is concern.
Thanks for the reminder , it's worth playing with.
Somehow, a reverse diode at one of the terminal connect interaction faster than bridge. You may wish to try that.
Maxolous

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« Reply #23654 on: September 25, 2022, 09:25:24 PM »
Or this!