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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10142264 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23625 on: September 23, 2022, 03:46:15 PM »
Gentlemen
For clarity, there are times itsu does testing where it’s not on main channel
Just like members here will also do from time to time.
Just post a link at discussion/build forum which makes it viewable when you click the link ( but not on their YouTube channel)


Respectfully
Chet K




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23626 on: September 23, 2022, 04:05:55 PM »
   AG:   If you look you will find it, but, what it shows is what I'm telling you. Oh, you forgot already.   It is impossible to have both circuits running on the SAME frequency. 


 You can look for frequency matches, all you want. As you are never going to build it, it does not really matter.

   NickZ
What Do you mean?  Oh, you forgot already.   It is impossible to have both circuits running on the SAME frequency. 
What two frequency's ?
PS don't take life too seriously, as no one can get out of it alive

Sil

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23627 on: September 23, 2022, 04:40:30 PM »
Gentlemen
For clarity, there are times itsu does testing where it’s not on main channel
Just like members here will also do from time to time.
Just post a link at discussion/build forum which makes it viewable when you click the link ( but not on their YouTube channel)


Respectfully
Chet K
Hi Chet Itsu did a lot of experiments on the Katcher and Grenade BUT he won't reply to me, can you ask him if he has a video on modulating the katcher and a link to it ?

Many thanks Sil

Offline ramset

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23628 on: September 23, 2022, 05:20:11 PM »
Seems in TPU …that two frequencies at once thingy ( perhaps?) came up yesterday!
A higher voltage AC running over the top of a DC which ran through the wire !


And some others recently have written two frequencies at once in the same wire ?
And yes I know the DC and frequencies not usually applicable… unless a pulsating frequency or ?


Honestly it could be totally unrelated to your discussion here !


Also I know itsu likes to help when he can ( that’s why he does this)
However like most builders he loathes the noisy parts of discussion ( fight fight fight stuff with no clear direction or …focus!


Just saying ….
BTW
I’ll try to ask … ( I have never done this request thing …( invitations to the battle
And I would never expect his involvement in such !


However he might find  the link …which I will post here if he does !
Next few days ?
Respectfully
Chet
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To below… thanks !( sorry if I overstepped..














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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23629 on: September 23, 2022, 05:42:05 PM »

As far as I recall, I never tried to "modulate the kacher".

What I tried was to synch the Kacher burst to be on the top (or bottom or anywhere in between) of the sine wave peak from the Inductor / Grenade signal.
This was doable, but did not show any special effects to happen.

What I also did try was to get both the Inductor and the Grenade resonance points to meet (to be on the same frequency) by adding / removing series (inductor) and parallel (grenade) capacitors.

It turns out that this is not possible as the resonance points seem to resist each other (like a band pass filter), so when tuning the Inductor to say 24KHz resonance, then tuning the Grenade also to this 24Khz resonance frequency, the Inductor will be OFF resonance and vice versa, see this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENOekS6zQos

It is unclear to me if it is NEEDED to have both Inductor and Grenade on the same resonance frequency, but it seems logical to me.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23630 on: September 23, 2022, 09:16:43 PM »
   Hello Itsu.   Thanks for the clarifications.   There are actually three different signals running at the same time. The two you've mention above ( grenade output coil frequency, the grenade inductor frequency.Plus also the Kacher frequency.
I think that what AG wants to know, is the sync frequencies between the Kacher/TC frequency and the grenade inductor frequency, or grenade output coil frequency.He is looking for a specific frequency match there.
 So it's the match or sync of the set harmonic math Kacher to the grenade frequencies, I guess, Instead.
   Thanks for answering him.

  NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23631 on: September 23, 2022, 09:32:09 PM »

Hi Nick,

if you look / listen to my video, you hear that around 20 second into the video i mention that the Kacher runs on 1.2MHz which is in sync / resonance with the Grenade base resonance frequency (according to its wire length)

So my 24Khz frequency on the push pull is 1/50 part of the 1.2MHz (50th subharmonic), so meaning i have a 1:50 relation between kacher frequency and Push Pull frequency if that is what you want to know.

But I have seen many different relationships coming by all these years, so your guess is as good as mine which one is the correct one.

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23632 on: September 23, 2022, 09:50:15 PM »
   Itsu:   Yes, I tried to explain that each self runner shown is running at different frequencies. This may imply that, what  is more important may be the match at coil frequencies, like the inductor is 1/2 the grenade output coil size, exactly.The Kacher may also need to interupt the push push pull signal, at just the right time.But what that right time is, is still not well known, in practice as yet. Since each device is running at different frequencies.
   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23633 on: September 23, 2022, 10:33:08 PM »

Well Nick, 


there you touch upon another mystery, as a stretch of wire of a certain length will resonate at a specific base frequency, say 40 m will resonate at (speed of light in copper (m/s) / length (m)) is 270 / 40 = 6.75MHz.

Coiling that same 40 m wire up into a coil will change its inductance and capacitance, and therefor change this base frequency.
Especially the Grenade which is wound a certain way partly clockwise, partly counterclockwise will resonate at a different frequency as when it was a stretched length of wire.


So taking a piece of wire 1/2 of the 40 m wire and coiling that up in another way (bifilar) will yet change this coil resonance frequency in another way.

Expecting these 2 coils still being in some kind of special relationship because they have a 1:2 wire length relationship is very far-fetched if you ask me.

 
So i don't think these wire lengths used are any special, they just are there to have a base wire length to start building and fine tune using the series / parallel caps, but TUNING to what, that's the question (one of them).

Itsu
 

 



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23634 on: September 23, 2022, 11:17:06 PM »
   Well, just trying to figure out why the device is set up a certain way, which for now is beyond me.
And I'm not trying to re invent any thing. Just trying to understand what may be needed, or not needed. The fact that the inductor is 1/2 size of the output coil may be important.I agree that the way they are wound may also be important. Also was why I built the simple Kacher circuit. Without needing to place a HV pulse at any particular place.
  Good night, Itsu.   Thanks again.   
   NickZ

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23635 on: September 24, 2022, 07:08:47 AM »
Hi all, thanks first to Chet and Nick for there patience and also to Itsu for his help in his reply. What has crossed my mind is this circuit others are using, where the katcher is modulated at which could possibly be .25 wave or perhaps divide by 40 of the 1.2Mhz main grenade frequency as disrupter so a 1.2Mhz freq modulated with divide by 4 test and a divide by 40 using a sine wave or 50/50 balanced sqr wave oscillator

So 1200,000.0 /40 = 30 khz

Sil

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23636 on: September 24, 2022, 07:52:56 AM »
AG
Interesting cct you have above, just like the earlier one which also work like the "AND gate". That Inductor sure is the Tesla Transformer's Primary.
Am trying to figure out how you set this, I see a pot on the Ir2153 which could set TT freq. While I supposed the 555 timer sets the frequency of PP and duty cycle.

One thing one has to struggle with is that duty cycle and freq. on 555 is probably not independent of each other . When varying one the other changes as well. I stand to be corrected.

Nice cct.

Maxolous

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23637 on: September 24, 2022, 10:36:05 AM »
Is there somebody here knowing Georgian language ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23638 on: September 24, 2022, 12:39:03 PM »
AG
Interesting cct you have above, just like the earlier one which also work like the "AND gate". That Inductor sure is the Tesla Transformer's Primary.
Am trying to figure out how you set this, I see a pot on the Ir2153 which could set TT freq. While I supposed the 555 timer sets the frequency of PP and duty cycle.

One thing one has to struggle with is that duty cycle and freq. on 555 is probably not independent of each other . When varying one the other changes as well. I stand to be corrected.

Nice cct.

Maxolous
Max Hi yes your right, I just intended in showing a simple way of modulating the sine wave as a sine wave but you will need to turn the sqr wave into a sine wave with LC
in resonance for each frequency.

Another phenomena is the self oscillating Tesla coil is 3/4 the way up from the earthy end
 the largest out put can be found.

Sil

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23639 on: September 24, 2022, 05:30:47 PM »

Another phenomena is the self oscillating Tesla coil is 3/4 the way up from the earthy end
 the largest out put can be found.

Sil

AG,

Please, emphasize on that , trying to picture it.
Do you mean the Inductor should be 1/4 from bottom too?

Maxolous