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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10430243 times)

Offline vasik041

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23325 on: August 30, 2022, 04:05:25 PM »
Nick,
What would you like to do there ?
If you want make something practical I can make special topic for you on my bench and not allow the person in question interfere there.
Regards,Vasik

Offline ramset

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23326 on: August 30, 2022, 04:17:38 PM »

That forum has always had benches for builders to manage and moderate And even this forum now has places that builders can moderate


For last few years !


No interference
No trolling


Just building !
For years now


Here I believe it’s not about a build or idea ?
It seems either a lack of ideas or fear to share or ?
Stage fright ?
Or just asking people to experiment with no real path to follow?
“Just do it “??
Huh?


Or pointing at someone else and blaming them ??
HUH ?
For certain , all who are serious experimenters
Never stop testing new ideas or revisiting old experiments!


Yes all pay attention!
It takes more than words to get them off the bench
And onto yours !
And honestly , nothing others say ( written here above as a hindrance)
Stifles the research, if anything it improves the quality and determination!


Respectfully
Chet


Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23327 on: August 30, 2022, 04:24:57 PM »
   Vasik:   Thank you for the offer, however, I can also start another thread there, or here, as has been suggested. 
   But, for now, I think that I will wait and see what becomes of all of this, first.
   As I don't need to see it still continuing, on some of the other threads that we also read every day, as well.
   Like you or I, there are others there have shared their feelings about this, also.
   
   At this time Vasik we are ALL very stuck with our devices, or any further improvements. So, until at least one of us has some
positive results, I don't know what more to do. I was hoping that Geofusion, Itsu, apecore, or any others that have built the controlable kacher circuits would show us the way, but, that has not happened, as yet. So, I'm not sure where we go from here,
and is why we still need have some positive discussions to try to resolve that issue in some way. And not just waste more time and money.
   PS.  Chet:  Thanks, but no thanks. I don't agree with your logic, or opinions. This whole thing has me sick, as it touches deep into my soul. Something that you may not understand. So, for the time being, you can have HIM. Just like "Color", as I've had enough, but you seam to need him.   I will check in from time to time, there, to see how things are going. But, will not post, until this disruption has changed.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23328 on: August 30, 2022, 04:41:57 PM »
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At this time Vasik we are very stuck with our devices
Nick,
It might looks so, but I've been working very hard and I believe made some progress.I posted many ideas, but it looks like nobody cares.Also with such negative atmosphere there, I mean famous person jumping from topic to topic and spreading negativity and lies, I don't really want make any further attempts to start or post something.And I feel no support from forum administrations. Everything seem to be ok for them.I believe that something good in this research can come only from community effort, but no efforts made to organize such community, or even prevent degradation of what we have :(

Regards,Vasik

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23329 on: August 30, 2022, 05:07:03 PM »
   Vasik:   I totally agree. And I will not accept things as they are. I would personally like to talk to Peter himself, but, it seams he may not be too concerned, as well. He has my email and contact info, and can contact me anytime day or night. No matter where he is at.
   But, at this time my point is to focus on this issue, first, before getting involved with projects. As I don't trust some of the members nor their intentions.
   
   Concerning the projects, I am ALWAYS interested, and I do care. And I will never give up, no matter who or what is there to affect us.  I feel that it is important for members to do more than just discuss things. It is also too easy to make suggestions, for someone else to do. The best way is to show what works, as well as what doesn't, so we can all learn for it. That is what I have always tried to do. And avoid wasting even more years at this.
   Results, good or bad,  I am always interested in, as I know that this is still, just a work project in progress. 
   So, Vasik, if there is something that you would like to show or tell us about, I'm all ears... 
   
   NickZ
« Last Edit: August 30, 2022, 07:28:53 PM by NickZ »

Offline ramset

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23330 on: August 30, 2022, 05:22:24 PM »
IMO
Here would be a better place to start a moderated board (vasik)
Lock it between posts if persons try to disrupt or strong negative opinions !
There are many more persons with Kapanadze builds sitting on the shelf here!


The other forum was more TPU guys and not really a strong foothold on Kapanadze
As there were never any investigations ( 3rd party independent lab type) as with TPU


One thing is certain there is a TPU claim on that forum
It is not all as you write here …just supporting negative “mile high” type views!


Yes omnipresent person does purport to do experiments
And over the years has shown a lab image but ?


 also persons do confront blatant dismissive remarks
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4339.msg100406;topicseen#msg100406


Honestly the higher level of conflict does bring similar counter conflict or balance !
And peeps learn more about the “what if’s”


Can’t all be the choir !


That being said
Yeah it does get pretty upsetting when it seems more ego and ……assumptions at times!


No stone left unturned!
Start a builders board and educational investigation section.
MODERATE!


It should do very well if it engages(hosts) a build or means to a result!
These are unique forums (open source) with no financial or ego driven agendas
No master to remove disagreeing opinions or refuse answers to questions!
  it’s not perfect…
But you can have a self moderated (VERY UNIQUE forum feature) builders board to control content ( within terms of service agreements)

Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23331 on: August 30, 2022, 05:48:28 PM »
   As long as blatant insults and disinformation is allowed to go wild. I will not be part of that, neither here nor there, and will not get involved. Nor will I have to start another thread just to get away from people like him. And I am still wondering, what's up with the admin. On vacation, perhaps?
   And, I'm thinking how long before the same thing will happen here. It's not just about locking a moderated thread. He was here, before, as you may know. Perhaps this was one of the forums on his list of banded forums, if not, it should be.
Or did you enjoy the "fairy tales" thread, that's been deleted, due to the same BS, but he still is doing his thing, on most of the other threads, NOW.
    BTW:  Along with Itsu, Vasik, AG, and others, we did have long discussions and many tests at OUR, about these Ruslan/Stalker type of devices. Not just about TPU, IF you recall, without these problems, at all. Almost 500 post just by me, alone, not to mention all the others.   
   
   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23332 on: August 30, 2022, 06:06:54 PM »
Guys Talking about unfinished devices I am looking at one of Alexee Sergey's device needless to say it doesn't work
the circuit is on page 976 it uses the IR2153 and IR2110 the device has 2 phase output  pin 5 and 7 with a center
frequency on pin 2 the firsrt thing i notice the feed to the 74hc14 pin 1 pin 13 of the HC14 feeds a delay line the component
values dont position the HF window in the correct place, it's as if the values are ether wrong or it's set too high but he labels the device as 15khz. Changing the capacitor from 4.7nan to 6.8 would shift the window but it also looks like the design circuit also has some other problems to de bug. for instance the UCC37321 is to slow to keep up amongst other things.

 
Sil
« Last Edit: August 30, 2022, 08:17:01 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23333 on: August 30, 2022, 06:31:38 PM »
   AG:    If you think that it does not work, why bring it up?
    We need to discuss what if anything, does work. Or at least has potential.
   
   The link to the device that Vasik pointed to, that does not use a Tesla coil, but a transformer instead, did seam pretty interesting.
   Also the device I linked to which was a new simpler Kapanadze type of replication using a spark gap, was also worth studying.   These are the subjects that I prefer to discuss, as soon as the "air clears" for real.

   NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23334 on: August 30, 2022, 08:37:45 PM »
Nick I missed that one where did you see that and do you have a link to it ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23335 on: August 30, 2022, 09:45:36 PM »
 Consider this - just one (very inexpensive) design/development approach to look into: 

An STM32 Micro is used as the base for all Pulse Generation and Control sources (Katcher/TT base plus pulser
control Fets, as well as the Push-Pull Fets). Component characteristics are pre-measured (phase, delay, amplitude)
which allows for "pre-distortion" (precise compensation for device operation - Fet rise/fall/delays; coil/transformer
phase and propagation parameters, etc.)... 

Touchscreen/LCD MMI buttons/sliders/keypad allow setting/controlling individual parameter of each component via
their source signal characteristics and displaying those individual settings.

Monitors/sensors can also be distributed throughout the device (voltage, current, magnetic [Hall devices], electrostatic)
to measure and display pseudo real-time operation. 

A methodical design and setup also aids in understanding the individual and interactive operation of the overall device.

This is nearly the same as you would apply when analyzing a device on the bench using conventional Test & Measurement
(T&M) Instruments but is much easier and more suited to real-time experiments. Set-Points and Automated Recorded Results
also allow a wide range of unattended optimization. 

Overview of the STM32L4 training: 06.1 Timers - General purpose timers (TIMx) theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKpQ3n0_WwI 

One of the comments -  "I stood up from my chair on my feet chin up, chest out, shoulders back, stomach in with love and
pride for my nation for the next 40 minutes listening to the Big Brother roaring about STM 32 timers." 

Stm32 Intro To timers (more layed back) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtAi6-7Lnlw 

So, that's what we're up to for the LinGen, Ruslan Generator and a variety of other devices. The STM32 Micro also serves
as the final controller for a completed device.  Being portable, with a few software changes, the same micro can be used on
other similar devices or designs.  These STM32 devices are professional grade automotive, and can be had in mil spec.

This is apart from, but linked to, the seperate CAE analysis.

It's a new approach to solving an old challenge!

SL 
 
« Last Edit: August 31, 2022, 12:33:09 AM by SolarLab »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23336 on: August 31, 2022, 05:31:06 PM »
Nick are you talking about the mains powered device that uses two 12 Volt wingdings and a tank coil ? Don't it use a large set of ferrite rings down it's center because of the low frequency ?

Its the same principle as the one on your living room table as far as I can see.

Sil


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23337 on: August 31, 2022, 06:09:03 PM »
   I am not sure what you are taking about. The links I gave and Vasik posted are not about my replication.Nor do I use ferrite, nor have low frequency.  Check the provided links on OUR.
  I will answer you only here though.

  NickZ
« Last Edit: August 31, 2022, 09:24:47 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23338 on: August 31, 2022, 06:26:29 PM »
AG
Here vasik posted  what I believe is a schematic from a
Smudge paper
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4339.msg100435;topicseen#msg100435


And alludes to it being familiar to those working on these devices


If one of you has the ability to show this Vasik comparison ( similar schematic or towards a similar mechanism??


Then you have the bits you need to open a build topic for investigations
And no one can interfere !


That being said smudge will have his own thoughts on this ( which may agree or disagree)
One things is certain..smudge (Cyril )is opening a discussion on this topic …
a “what if”?


BTW
Smudge has a builders topic here already ( with Partzman)
For clarity
If just one piece of this puzzle can be absorbed by the reader’s
Towards an “Ah -Hah “ moment …as to how this might work ?
Then perhaps more will engage !

Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #23339 on: September 01, 2022, 06:21:07 AM »

A "Precision Controller" Example

An example of another "related" design (Meyer's Water Fuel Cell) where a precision "controller"
(STM32) would yield an optimum working device using the approach detailed here:

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg570336/#msg570336

Current, etc. are sensed in "real-time" and the "pulse frequency" is adjusted to maintain resonance
and thus optimum operation. Meyer employed a PLL with reasonable success but the system was
somewhat limited by the single loop design capability. An explaination of the Meyer system:

https://www.academia.edu/32045299/Stanley_MEYER_Resonant_Electrolysis_Cell_System

SL