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« Reply #20145 on: January 04, 2019, 07:26:48 PM »
Hi Belfior. I tried with a flyback driver at around 15 to 20 kHz or so.
Rectified to pulsating DC through a HV diode. I could not get the HV cap to charge that way.
Maybe you will have better luck than me.

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« Reply #20146 on: January 05, 2019, 03:15:20 PM »
Hi Belfior. I tried with a flyback driver at around 15 to 20 kHz or so.
Rectified to pulsating DC through a HV diode. I could not get the HV cap to charge that way.
Maybe you will have better luck than me.

Hi Void.

I have multiple setups and the one I am using is 2 caps in series connected by an LED. Positive lead from a sig gen to one cap and negative to the other cap, so the LED is "unsulated".

Nothing happened. Then if you connect ground to any side of the LED it lights up. Then I realized the "negative" sig gen lead is laos ground, so I effectively joined both sides of the cap with ground. Now I am building a "sig gen" that is powered with a battery and trying the experiment again

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20147 on: January 05, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20148 on: January 05, 2019, 05:54:07 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....
Hi Forest,
could you please explain a bit more what you mean ?

"in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity."

Perhaps some example...
Thanks,-V.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20149 on: January 05, 2019, 05:57:02 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....
Hi there could you please explain in English only I got lost at the 'ambient field' and I don't understand since we no longer use electrons since I'm told
they don't exist I think the term is 'charged particles' and the bit about did something wrong is also confusing.
Sorry :'(
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« Reply #20150 on: January 06, 2019, 01:09:21 AM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....

Well I think it comes down to internal resistance of the cap or battery. The equation for charge in a cap does not involve current. So in my mind it come down to resistance. How much current do you need to get the cap into the required voltage level? So if a cap goes to 9000v with a 9000v pulse, then we have something, because voltage we can manufacture. Then if we charge the cap 60k per second and the load takes power out 60 times per second, I think we got something else too. So if we get into voltage pulse == big charge that is the amps you need. If current would play a major role with caps, you could see that from the equation. but that charge in the cap turn straight into current. An area worth to look at. With maxwell saying it is the rate of change that determines the displacement current. In DC circuit usually very easy. some rate of change while the caps charge and then 0. In AC circuits it is a total different thing. Rate of change == displacement current

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« Reply #20151 on: January 06, 2019, 01:30:01 AM »
displacement : inrush cold conductor/ hot conductor rush-hour/ freeway= superconducting state Not ideal state= no resistance but ultra-low resistance !
Look for the "coil,channel,tube"- dimension on micro-/ nano-chips and the electronic flow in quantity and compare this with 1mm radius coil !
to resist,  resistance, resistor to trans-(res-) istor and circuit : 1,10,100,.......How many circuits on 1square centimerter micro-chip/photovoltaic cell modul ? How many milli-/ centi-/meters conductor on 1 sqmm ?

  "Inrush pulses", controled by " soft 'cold ' electricity" drive;
    hot conductor ~ EDM effect= erosive and coil lifetime use shortening
Electric  circuit a. 0°C cooling b.0° F cooling c. 0° K cooling or RTS coil/ tube
Sharp Voltage fall to Zero Voltage : Phenomen , thermical ? Steady constant velocity, acceleration, deceleration


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« Reply #20152 on: January 06, 2019, 02:44:33 AM »
F.Y.I. 

Attached a zip file brief relating to "Does using High Voltage to Increase Electron Inertia
yield Generated Electric Power?" 

[[[File doesn't like .rar or.zip - so I'll just paste it here]]]

ELECTRON INERTIA 
ELECTROMAGNETIC   MOMENTUM  AND  ELECTRON  INERTIA  IN  A  CURRENT CIRCUIT
By  Professor  E.  G.  CULLWICK,  O.B.E.,  M.A.,  D.Sc,  F.R.S.E.,  Member.
(The paper  was first received 12th April, and in revised form13th  June, 1955. It was published
as  an INSTITUTION  MONOGRAPH in September, 1955) 

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/64e4/8cc38d68decf787fda1519db1f51f25a13a2.pdf  

Conservation of Energy. Readings on the Origins of the First Law of Thermodynamics. Part II
Jaime Wisniak, Department of Chemical Engineering, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, Beer-Sheva,
Israel 4105. Correo electrónico: wisniak@bgumail.bgu.ac.il 

http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0187-893X2008000300010 

Ingles (English) pdf
http://www.scielo.org.mx/pdf/eq/v19n3/v19n3a10.pdf 

See notable page 222: Hermann Ludwig von Helmholtz (1821-1894)

"Helmholtz concludes this section as follows: "

(a) Whenever natural bodies act upon each other by forces of attraction or repulsion, which are independent
of time and velocity, the sum of their *** vires vivae and tensions must be constant; the maximum quantity
of work which can be obtained from them is therefore fixed and finite; 

(b) if, on the contrary, bodies possess forces which depend upon time and velocity, or which act in other
directions than the lines which unite each two separate material points, for example, forces of rotation, then
combinations of such bodies would be possible in which force might be either lost or gained ad infinitum."

*** vis viva noun  vis vi·va | \-ˈvīvə\       plural    vires vivae\-īˌvē \
Definition of vis viva : the force of a moving body calculated as the product of its mass and the square of
its velocity : twice the kinetic energy   ***

DOES USING HIGH VOLTAGE TO INCREASE ELECTRON INERTIA
YIELD GENERATED ELECTRIC POWER?
 

Based on Helmholtz's conclusion above consider rapidly increasing the "tension" by pulsed high voltage.
In the patent below, paragraph [0002], replace the "electron mass reduction" idea with the "pulsed high
voltage" concept.

US 2014/O159845 A1 Jun. 12, 2014 
SELF-SUSTAININGELECTRIC-POWER GENERATOR. UTILIZINGELECTRONS OF LOW INERTIAL MASS
TO MAGNIFY INDUCTIVE
   Inventor    William N. Barbat 

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/a7/7e/ef/a4f6ce53545d68/US20140159845A1.pdf 

Abstract
Electrical oscillations in a “sending coil” radiate inductive photons toward one or more “energy-magnifying
coils” comprised of a photoconductor, doped semiconductor, or a superconductor. Electrons of low inertial
mass in the energy-magnifying coil(s) receive from the sending coil a transverse force having no in-line
backforce. The low-mass electrons in the energy-magnifying coil(s) receive acceleration proportional to
normal electron mass divided by the lower mass. Secondarily radiated inductive-photon energy is magnified
proportionally to the electrons' greater acceleration, squared. Magnified inductive-photon energy from the
energy-magnifying coil(s) induces oscillating electric energy in one or more “output coil(s).” The electric
energy output exceeds energy input if more of the photon-induction energy is directed toward the output
coil(s) than as a counter force to the sending coil. After initiating the oscillations, the generation of electric
power becomes self-sustaining.

FIELD
[0002]  This disclosure introduces a technical field in which practical electrical energy is created in accordance
with the overlooked exception to the energy-conservation rule that Herman von Helmholtz described in his
1847 doctrine on energy conservation: “If . . . bodies possess forces which depend upon time and velocity, or
which act in directions other than lines which unite each pair of material points, . . . then combinations of such
bodies are possible in which force may be either lost or gained ad infinitum.” A transverse inductive force qualifies
for Helmholtz's ad infinitum rule, but this force is not sufficient of itself to cause a greater energy output than
input when applied to electrons of normal mass due to their unique charge-to-mass ratio. However, the increased
acceleration of conduction electrons of less-than-normal inertial mass, as occurs in photoconductors, doped
semiconductors, and superconductors, is proportional to the normal electron mass divided by the low electron mass,
and the magnification of harnessable inductive energy is proportional to the greater relative acceleration, squared.

BACKGROUND
[0003]  Magnetic force also satisfies Helmholtz's exemption to the energy-conservation rule because magnetic force
is transverse to the force that causes it, and magnetic force is determined by the “relative velocity” (i.e., perpendicular
to the connecting line) between electric charges. Magnification of magnetic force and energy was demonstrated by
E. Leimer (1915) in the coil of a speaker phone and in the coil of a galvanometer when he irradiated a radio
antenna-wire with radium. A 10-milligram, linear radium source produced a measured 2.6-fold increase in electrical
current in the antenna-wire in comparing inaudible radio reception without radium to audible reception with radium.
This represented a (2.6)2=7× increase in electrical energy flowing through the respective wire coils. The possibility
of this enhanced reception being attributed to a person's body holding the unit of radium to the wire was eliminated
by Leimer's additional observation that, whenever the orientation of the small radium unit was changed to
approximately 30 degrees relative to the wire, the energy enhancement ceased.

end of this part



Food for thought!

FWIW - this file in zip format works at http://www.aboveunity.com/  so it must be a glitch between this file in zip format
and the system here ??? Oh well... 


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« Reply #20153 on: January 06, 2019, 03:23:00 AM »
 And an older one; "Notes..." that was posted before [included to fix a bad load] but a good paper anyway...   :D   



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« Reply #20154 on: January 06, 2019, 10:07:44 AM »
Everybody talks about AC reactance but the real deal is how capacitor reacts to DC pulses. Could somebody help in that area?

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« Reply #20155 on: January 06, 2019, 01:15:35 PM »
Everybody talks about AC reactance but the real deal is how capacitor reacts to DC pulses. Could somebody help in that area?

This would be a great interest to me also. Not many sources that have this information. Just Tesla's disruptive discharges that are supposed to do magic when under 100us pulses

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« Reply #20156 on: January 06, 2019, 01:43:44 PM »
100us is fast= in rush and it is a wall : thermal resistance/ scattering/ noise
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsecond     " lifetime of particles"
   Nyquist and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junction_temperature

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« Reply #20157 on: January 06, 2019, 02:53:39 PM »
Belfior if you have tools like digital scope for example you can start doing experiments which i i feel are important. For example how the charge on capacitor affect its reactance.

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« Reply #20158 on: January 06, 2019, 03:09:49 PM »
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Everybody talks about AC reactance but the real deal is how capacitor reacts to DC pulses. Could somebody help in that area?
This would be a great interest to me also. Not many sources that have this information. Just Tesla's disruptive discharges that are supposed to do magic when under 100us pulses

All you have to do is apply the math to a real capacitor. A real capacitor is not only a capacitor. It has a series resistance, a series inductance and a parallel resistance. With pulses, or at very high frequencies, only the last one remains negligible, so you are left with an RLC circuit.
- charge : d²Q/dt² + (1/LC)Q + (R/L) dQ/dt = U
- current : Ld²I/dt²+RdI/dt + I/C = U

Does that bother you? Then read more  :D. In general, R and L of the capacitor are much lower than the resistance and inductance of the conductors that connect it to the rest of the setup. Thus the problem is less to know the behaviour of the capacitor itself than to know the whole circuit to which it is connected.

Impulse means high frequency, therefore skin effect with increased conductor resistance, conductor impedance increased because of their inductance (every conductor has an inductance), and electromagnetic radiation because the smallest conductor section acts as an antenna.

The design of the circuit must therefore be made with large conductors, the shortest possible connections, and capacitors made for high frequencies. This will greatly reduce the problems.
However, it should not be forgotten that it is not possible to instantly impose a voltage to a capacitor, which would imply an infinite current. The inductance and resistance of the circuit by which it will be charged, possibly from pulses, therefore remain essential, as these elements are the only ones to limit the charge current.


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« Reply #20159 on: January 06, 2019, 03:14:29 PM »
100us is fast= in rush and it is a wall : thermal resistance/ scattering/ noise
   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsecond     " lifetime of particles"
   Nyquist and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junction_temperature
Struth why do they make it apear so complicated ?

1.00 is 1 amp
0.100 100 ma
0.010 10 ma
0.000 1 ma

0.000,1 = 100 micro amps                 = 10-3
0.000,000, 100 nano amps                = 10-6
0.000,000,000, 1 100 pico ampos       = 10-9

somple ain it

 

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