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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 6611005 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19950 on: June 02, 2018, 12:40:59 AM »
Nice one itsu!

Now as you have that the free oscillations of Tesla coil have to be short circuitted to make spike out of it. This is where shorting base of katcher transistor and the choke between top load become very important. The choke have to be filtering free oscillatins and making spike burst in series on top load. Which will add up voltage to the existing output from the Tesla coil. Just be aware, the correct operation is making EMP bubble around and ionization which will cause ozone smell. The excited ions then should be picked up on bucking coil / grenade which is middle inductive plate between Tesla top load ("antenna") and other inductive plate to the ground of three plate open-air capacitor. The effect you are after is similar to the secondary electron emission in vacuum tubes.

Cheers!
T1000  I don't think your circuit is capable of doing that, at least the circuit i have doesn't shut off the output device in the middle and then turn it back on.
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« Reply #19951 on: June 02, 2018, 01:00:43 AM »
  Nor do I think that Geo's new Kacher circuit was showing a short circuit type of operation, on his video.Nor was it a DC pulse output from the HV, that I could see. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
   BTW: Is Geo lost in space, again...   Common Geo... take the dust and cobwebs off of the thing, and fire it up.
And, show us how well that new Kacher circuit can work with the induction circuits. Please...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19952 on: June 02, 2018, 11:22:21 AM »

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Itsu:   Looks like you've done it.  Lots of hard work and time went into it.
And it looks like the fish form, as well.
   Can the green signal be reduced into an abrupt triple burst pulse?
   Interesting how both T1 and T3 meet at the transistor base, and both pulse the kacher's base.
Who would of thought of that.    Great going Itsu.


Nick,

in the diagram with the red circle above, you see that T1 is shorting the base of the 2SC5200 transistor to ground
about half way into the pulse delivered by T3, so its effectively cutoff (see purple trace).

But as you can see in the green trace, this will not immediately cutoff the free running Kacher signal,
instead it keeps on ringing down (fishform).
This ringing down like signal i have seen also in Stalkers video, so i think he is using a different circuit, or
an addition to this circuit to create these "triple burst pulse" signals you show in your screenshot.  Do you know from which video that screenshot you showed above comes from??

I yet have no idea how to produce such a "triple burst pulse", but i think T1000 is suggesting something in his post,
but i do not quite see what he means yet.


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Nice one itsu!

Now as you have that the free oscillations of Tesla coil have to be short circuitted to make spike out of it.
This is where shorting base of katcher transistor and the choke between top load become very important.
The choke have to be filtering free oscillatins and making spike burst in series on top load.
Which will add up voltage to the existing output from the Tesla coil. Just be aware, the correct operation is
making EMP bubble around and ionization which will cause ozone smell.
The excited ions then should be picked up on bucking coil / grenade which is middle inductive plate between
Tesla top load ("antenna") and other inductive plate to the ground of three plate open-air capacitor.
The effect you are after is similar to the secondary electron emission in vacuum tubes.

Cheers!



T1000,

i do have the "shorting base of katcher transistor" active, see T3, but what do you mean by "the choke between top load"?
Is it the ferrite bar with the 2 4turn bucking coils inbetween the Kacher and the antenna?

At the moment i only have a simple kacher coil attached, so without a choke or antenna, but i doubt that adding those
items will create a different kacher signal.
Also it runs on 12V only at the moment, so no streamers nor ozone.
Itsu

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« Reply #19952 on: June 02, 2018, 11:22:21 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19953 on: June 02, 2018, 11:57:32 AM »
Itsu,

Yes thats the difficulty,....  to get rid of the ringdown signal.
T-1000 is theoretical correct using the choke principle...  nut in practise it is not that easy.

In the picture below you can see that the "BASE" signal is cut-off after the puls envelope is stopped....  the ringdown appears.
I d tried several ferrite combinations and windings... even diodes..

Just by shortcutting the BASE of the kacher transistor will not stop the ringdown

This is i think the most difficult but also the most important part of the deal.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19954 on: June 02, 2018, 03:51:34 PM »
T1000,

i do have the "shorting base of katcher transistor" active, see T3, but what do you mean by "the choke between top load"?
Is it the ferrite bar with the 2 4turn bucking coils inbetween the Kacher and the antenna?

At the moment i only have a simple kacher coil attached, so without a choke or antenna, but i doubt that adding those
items will create a different kacher signal.
Also it runs on 12V only at the moment, so no streamers nor ozone.
Itsu
One of additions I did with Geo was making negative voltage offset to katcher transistor. By simply adding shotky diode between emitter and ground that made great difference on the output.
The part about choke filtering out front and back of free oscillations then releasing energy as series spike voltage add-up came directly from akula explanation in private conversations about 2 years ago. He had that in devices he made.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19955 on: June 02, 2018, 04:22:28 PM »
   Itsu:   It looks to me like, the triple burst signal does not come from the first or second module of the TC4093 3 chips. But, from the last one, Kacher driver board, instead. The burst signal is a packet of square waves, which he is showing.
   Where I see the burst signal being shown and controlled is when Stalker has the scope connected to the other simpler smaller Kacher driver board, 2 by 2 inch board, (not the three fets board), which was possibly his previous Kacher circuit board.
   I'm still looking for the source of the image I posted showing the scope shot of both the burst signal, and the induction circuit. It may be on a later video.  Notice how the burst signal is firing on the valley of the induction circuit's signal. Not on the top of the sine wave.

   Question: Didn't you on a previous video not show the burst packets? When you came up with the 4 module set up?  Yes?
   Perhaps the answer lies in the smaller Kacher circuit, without the 3 fets.
   As Stalker has more components on his actual circuit than are on his diagram, it's easy to get lost trying to figure all this out. But, I'll do what I can to help out.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19956 on: June 02, 2018, 05:06:24 PM »
One of additions I did with Geo was making negative voltage offset to katcher transistor. By simply adding shotky diode between emitter and ground that made great difference on the output.
The part about choke filtering out front and back of free oscillations then releasing energy as series spike voltage add-up came directly from akula explanation in private conversations about 2 years ago. He had that in devices he made.

Thanks T,

a diode in the emitter line is easy enough, i will try that.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19957 on: June 02, 2018, 05:15:39 PM »
   Itsu:   It looks to me like, the triple burst signal does not come from the first or second module of the TC4093 3 chips. But, from the last one, Kacher driver board, instead. The burst signal is a packet of square waves, which he is showing.
   Where I see the burst signal being shown and controlled is when Stalker has the scope connected to the other simpler smaller Kacher driver board, 2 by 2 inch board, (not the three fets board), which was possibly his previous Kacher circuit board.
   I'm still looking for the source of the image I posted showing the scope shot of both the burst signal, and the induction circuit. It may be on a later video.  Notice how the burst signal is firing on the valley of the induction circuit's signal. Not on the top of the sine wave.

   Question: Didn't you on a previous video not show the burst packets? When you came up with the 4 module set up?  Yes?
   Perhaps the answer lies in the smaller Kacher circuit, without the 3 fets.
   As Stalker has more components on his actual circuit than are on his diagram, it's easy to get lost trying to figure all this out. But, I'll do what I can to help out.
 
Nick,

that screenshot is from a video with a length of 4:28 minute, see picture.
I scanned Stalker his youtube account and only found 1 video with such a length, but its not the correct one (old),
so i suspect its a hidden video from which you seem to have the link.

There probably is a delay function on that circuit to delay the kacher signal (or push-pull signal) so it can be
varied between top or bottom of the induction signal.


Yes, my module 4 produces severall square wave pulses (burst), but that is for a MOSFET driven kacher.
I will try to use that module 4 with a MOSFET to drive the kacher, but i guess i will get the same ringing
kacher signal, like Apecore showed.

Itsu


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19958 on: June 02, 2018, 05:28:21 PM »

OK, found the video, its shown as 4:29 on his YT channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-UaulS9EUA


He shows that indeed, like T1000 mentioned, the choke will cause the ringdown to disappear, see below 2 screenshots,
first one is without choke (ferrite) between Kacher and antenna, and second one is with ferrite, see the time stamps
on the screenshots.

I have however no idea what kind of kacher driver (transistor / MOSFET,  single pulse or bursts) he is using or even if this video is from Stalker as i
see different equipment and think his voice is different.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19959 on: June 02, 2018, 06:31:06 PM »
   OK, so at least we see that the ferrite rod acts to dampen the ringing, and to also intensify the bursts.   Add the diode to the kacher's emitter, from your water pipe, or any other earth ground, available.
 You're right, that video is not Stalkers. Could it have been Adrian? He was right on Stalkers tracks.  As Stalker has thousands of followers, that video could be from anyone of them, as well. It's like a Stalker replication, but not Stalker's video.
  You mentioned that your 4th module does produce the burst signal.  I hope that you can get it to work with the mosfet, instead of the Kacher transistor. Or any other way that you can produce those bursts.
The right frequency produces the machine gun sound, I had mentioned earlier.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19960 on: June 02, 2018, 10:04:32 PM »

I added a Schottky diode in the 2SC5200 emitter line, but this made very little difference.
The kacher output went somewhat down (5% or so), but still the ringing was there.

So i need to setup the original kacher with the choke and antenna etc. to see if that will make more difference.




For now i installed the module 4 (MOSFET driver with pulsed output) and added an IRFP460 MOSFET to the kacher coil
instead of the 2SC5200 transistor.

The signal can be seen in below screenshot 1:

yellow: TL494 signal (1 channel)
blue:   output of module 2 (input to module 4)
purple: output of module 4 (pulsed signal to gate of the MOSFET)
green:  output of kacher with probe hanging next to top (not connected)

I again have only 12V on the primary kacher coil / Drain MOSFET.

So it shows that also this pulsed signal causes the Kacher to ringdown for some time.

The 2th screenshot is zoomed in on the kacher signal.

Itsu
 


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« Reply #19961 on: June 02, 2018, 10:20:16 PM »

The 2th screenshot is zoomed in on the kacher signal.

Itsu
 

Good evening Itsu,

Something is not right,.   the signal from the kacher is not a nice sinewave.



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« Reply #19962 on: June 02, 2018, 10:31:13 PM »

Ape,

I noticed that too, something is interferring, at least on the first part, as the ringdown part seems to be OK.
Could be my messy kacher coil i am using now, the breadboard setup or the low 12V kacher driving voltage, etc.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19963 on: June 02, 2018, 10:48:44 PM »
Itsu in your oscillographs you show only one TL494 output , can you display them both ?
you will then have a dead zone in between them can you then move /reposition your
katcher on pulses to the middle of the dead zone and re try to see if any difference.

AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19964 on: June 03, 2018, 11:11:46 AM »

Alien,

i could do that, but i don't think that would be usefull as according to Stalker this is where the pulses should
be positioned, and secondly i can "move" the push-pull sine wave to any position via the TC4093 chip behind the
tl494 (driving the push-pull MOSFETs).

With Other Words, the moving /repositioning is not done by the 2x TC4093 module pots, but by the TC4093 chip/pots
directly behind the TL494 driving the MOSFETs

Itsu

 

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