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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8078963 times)

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« Reply #19665 on: April 30, 2018, 06:03:45 PM »
   Something like that...  But simple to me is where it's at. Less resistors, diodes, and other draining components. The Mazilli driver was my invention for the Akula/Ruslan device. It came out of previous work on Geo's RMG circuit ideas. And it worked, but at that time I did not try to make it that circuit self run.
Perhaps it could of...

   I'm more inclined to go this way, below. KWs of output power.
   It shows that no complex wave forms are needed, nor a push-pull type driver, using just a simple Kacher circuit, some coils and caps, and a laptop adapter. That's it... Why has it not been replicated?
 Or, has it been replicated, and even has been offered for sale? But, does it really work???  Who knows.

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« Reply #19666 on: April 30, 2018, 06:13:18 PM »

   I'm now more inclined to go this way, below. KWs of output power.
   It shows that no complex wave forms are needed, just a simple Kacher circuit, some coils and caps, and a laptop adapter. That's it... Why has it not been replicated?  Or, has it been?

Now that one really is laughable!! Don't waste your time on that. Folks will really believe that we are in an asylum if we all start working on it!!!

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« Reply #19667 on: April 30, 2018, 06:19:07 PM »
Now that one really is laughable!! Don't waste your time on that.

  Well... I think that device may be missing the banana, before the laptop adapter. It's been shown to work that way by others.  But, I won't go that route, until the road is clear.

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« Reply #19668 on: April 30, 2018, 06:51:24 PM »
  Itsu:
   I tried the suggested match up frequencies that you suggested. The 18Khz, and 22Khz.
But, Nothing there, no body home.
   I also tried to use the old Tek scope to obtain a reading on the two wave forms at the same time.
But, my old scope has seen better days.  I'll try to show what it does possibly in my next video.

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« Reply #19669 on: April 30, 2018, 06:51:47 PM »
Well guys...
 
I hope it will be not to simple..... i need to stay of the streets...
To simple is to frustrated.........

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« Reply #19670 on: April 30, 2018, 06:57:44 PM »
Well guys...
 
I hope it will be not to simple..... i need to stay of the streets...
To simple is to frustrated.........

I would'nt worry too much about that. We're not likely to be set free any time soon.  ;D

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« Reply #19671 on: April 30, 2018, 07:00:44 PM »
Ok, Nick,

i am not surprised,  did you also change the capacitor on the inductor to obtain resonance on either 18 or 22Khz?


OK on the tek scope, try the settings as mentioned by TK, it should trigger on both signals, but still the difference  in frequencies (27Khz and 892Khz)
will be the same, so find the best display with the time base knob.

Itsu

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« Reply #19672 on: April 30, 2018, 07:16:23 PM »
See the addition to my post above.

Ok Hoppy back to the new setup from Ruslan,

As you can see at the mazilly driver..  on its board there seems to be a timer circuit...
The 16 pins IC with the cap and the pot     ...  what looks to me simular as a TL 494.

Also is see a 8pins IC what could be a driver for the mosfets.

So in general, this is a push pull circuit with variable frequenty,...  the Duty cycle seems to be fixed
So is this a combination of mazilly (seems to me not a mazilly) and PWM IC...  or just a ordinairy Push pull driver

What i do see is that this circuit is supplying the next items;
1- Flyback driver  ....----- timed by SG adjustment
2- inductor coil
3- output coil ( 28Turn coil)

Also one side of the WIMA caps is directly connected to the LOAD connector, which seems to me not part a Mazilla driver





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« Reply #19673 on: April 30, 2018, 07:36:57 PM »
Also a observation is that the board  below left is not a own made board but some thing out of a excisting piece of electronics,............ it is as i can see not connected.
The upper left board with the yellow led (start to lite up after battery is connected)  and green led (lights) after the system is switched on....is for not clear what its functionality would be


Further i see some diode banks with the redwire as common rectifyer.



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« Reply #19673 on: April 30, 2018, 07:36:57 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19674 on: April 30, 2018, 07:45:28 PM »
Ok Hoppy back to the new setup from Ruslan,

As you can see at the mazilly driver..  on its board there seems to be a timer circuit...
The 16 pins IC with the cap and the pot     ...  what looks to me simular as a TL 494.

Also is see a 8pins IC what could be a driver for the mosfets.

So in general, this is a push pull circuit with variable frequenty,...  the Duty cycle seems to be fixed
So is this a combination of mazilly (seems to me not a mazilly) and PWM IC...  or just a ordinairy Push pull driver

What i do see is that this circuit is supplying the next items;
1- Flyback driver  ....----- timed by SG adjustment
2- inductor coil
3- output coil ( 28Turn coil)

Also one side of the WIMA caps is directly connected to the LOAD connector, which seems to me not part a Mazilla driver

Yes, it could well be a PWM push-pull driving a smallish toroid in place of the usual ferrite yoke. The ferrite toroid made me think it could be a Royer / Mazilli. The PWM push-pull, unlike the Mazzilli does give both easy frequency and duty adjustment, so would be a more likely candidate. I agree with your items 1 to 3, so think there is enough here to experiment using a PWM push-pull with ferrite TV yoke or toroid driving a fly-back trafo with spark gap.

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« Reply #19675 on: April 30, 2018, 07:59:48 PM »
Ok, Nick,

i am not surprised,  did you also change the capacitor on the inductor to obtain resonance on either 18 or 22Khz?


OK on the tek scope, try the settings as mentioned by TK, it should trigger on both signals, but still the difference  in frequencies (27Khz and 892Khz)
will be the same, so find the best display with the time base knob.

Itsu


  No, I left the same 0.47uf wima cap on the inductor.  I did try some more caps on top, though.
But, what seams to provide for better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier.
  Best running frequency with a 100w bulb on is about 27.3, or so. Kacher runs around 900Khz.
Most of the time I can't get it to sync up. So the kacher is doing little to nothing, as the different loads change things. 200w bulb, likes 13Khz, or lower, which I can't go down too. Like your suggested 11Khz, value.
I could always hear the Mazzilli ringing at less than 10Khz.

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« Reply #19676 on: April 30, 2018, 08:22:07 PM »
Yes, it could well be a PWM push-pull driving a smallish toroid in place of the usual ferrite yoke. The ferrite toroid made me think it could be a Royer / Mazilli. The PWM push-pull, unlike the Mazzilli does give both easy frequency and duty adjustment, so would be a more likely candidate. I agree with your items 1 to 3, so think there is enough here to experiment using a PWM push-pull with ferrite TV yoke or toroid driving a fly-back trafo with spark gap.

So also can be said that the flyback transformer is feeded with square wave...  and therefore generates the spark gap pulsesn on positive and negative wave.....
Here comes the tricky part.... timing is only (as it seems) possible by adjusting the gap....
Looking at its construction.... either this is also not critical....   or the amount of power (spark cap) is as so low that there is no destruction of spark gap wire and or thermal meltdown of plastic connector
Which would lead to timing issue's

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« Reply #19677 on: April 30, 2018, 08:33:35 PM »
So also can be said that the flyback transformer is feeded with square wave...  and therefore generates the spark gap pulsesn on positive and negative wave.....
Here comes the tricky part.... timing is only (as it seems) possible by adjusting the gap....

Or that it is fixed by selection of the SG dump cap(s).

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« Reply #19678 on: April 30, 2018, 09:06:53 PM »

  No, I left the same 0.47uf wima cap on the inductor.  I did try some more caps on top, though.
But, what seams to provide for better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier.
  Best running frequency with a 100w bulb on is about 27.3, or so. Kacher runs around 900Khz.
Most of the time I can't get it to sync up. So the kacher is doing little to nothing, as the different loads change things. 200w bulb, likes 13Khz, or lower, which I can't go down too. Like your suggested 11Khz, value.
I could always hear the Mazzilli ringing at less than 10Khz.

Nick,

the key point here seems to be to have the kacher signal to dis- or inter-rupt the inductor signal when in RESONANCE.
It does not really matter at what harmonic relation , could be 50, or 60, or 100 like proposed earlier, but also the 32 harmonic
would be fine i think, BUT it needs to interrupt the inductor signal when in resonance.

So for you to change the inductor frequency to 18 or 22 Khz without retuning for resonance does not make any sense.

Try to get back to your 27.9Khz resonance situation and sloooowly adjust the kacher frequency using a ferrite rod so the both signals will
stabilize on your digital scope.

If you can reach that, then you know that there is a certain harmonic relationship between kacher frequency and inductor frequency.



Also be aware that the resonance frequency of the inductor and the grenade are different.
So when you have the inductor in resonance (27.9Khz), then you can try to optimize the resonance frequency of the grenade be adding or removing capacitors
like you mention:  "better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier."

But this could influence again the resonance freqeuncy of the inductor etc.

Itsu 
 


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19679 on: April 30, 2018, 09:50:44 PM »
Nick,

the key point here seems to be to have the kacher signal to dis- or inter-rupt the inductor signal when in RESONANCE.
It does not really matter at what harmonic relation , could be 50, or 60, or 100 like proposed earlier, but also the 32 harmonic
would be fine i think, BUT it needs to interrupt the inductor signal when in resonance.

So for you to change the inductor frequency to 18 or 22 Khz without retuning for resonance does not make any sense.

Try to get back to your 27.9Khz resonance situation and sloooowly adjust the kacher frequency using a ferrite rod so the both signals will
stabilize on your digital scope.

If you can reach that, then you know that there is a certain harmonic relationship between kacher frequency and inductor frequency.



Also be aware that the resonance frequency of the inductor and the grenade are different.
So when you have the inductor in resonance (27.9Khz), then you can try to optimize the resonance frequency of the grenade be adding or removing capacitors
like you mention:  "better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier."

But this could influence again the resonance freqeuncy of the inductor etc.

Itsu
Hi! I don't want to be a pain in the arse here but if you look on page 250 odf this thread you will find the nano pulse has to be phase locked
with tje tuned grenade winding I think there is also an extra tuned harmonic winding hidden in grenade assembly referred to else where and hidden in
the loads of utter junk in this data base.
Read TK patent.

If the Data Base was managed correctly and sorted I wouldnt mind betting it would be possible to get it down to an indexed less than 200 pages of               
useful related index.
 
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