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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8521411 times)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1860 on: June 07, 2013, 08:50:24 AM »
... the energy that is produced is ALL coming from the surrounding ambient, not from the input source.  But, many like Verpies will not accept that. They will have many reasons as to why that is not so. But, no proof,  ever.
Neither you have a proof of conversion of ambient vacuum to energy.

They know it all.  All the proof in the world will not change their mind.  His true and unchanging belief is  "TESLA is very wrong".    There you have it...
It's wrong for you to predict my ignorance of experimental evidence and imply my self-perceived omniscience.  So far I have not seen any proof of converting vacuum to energy.

His true and unchanging belief is  "TESLA is very wrong".    There you have it...
Yes, he is wrong about the pre-atomic structure of matter (see a rebuttal of similar views here), but I did not write that he is wrong about everything.  e.g. his AC engineering principles are correct.

I can prove that something is wrong (do you want me to?) but I cannot prove that something does not exist - that feat cannot be done by anyone.

even the new Magnacoaster device will not change his mind, either, or others like him. 
It is wrong to conclude, that the Magnacoaster device converts vacuum to energy even if it functions as advertised.
In his patent, Richard Willis specifically mentions material core (#34) inside his induction coil, not a vacuum (or air).
Anyway, the operating principle of Magnacoaster's devices has not been independently analyzed and can be anything.

BTW:  Has anybody actually received a Magnacoaster device?  Isn't there a several months shipping delay?

As they don't even think that it's possible, even if they were holding it in their hands, and watching it work.  Each to his own...
What is "it" ?
If "it" means converting vacuum to energy, then yes, I don't think that's possible.
However it is wrong for you to predict my close mindedness in the face of an experimental evidence to the contrary.  I have not seen such evidence so far.

For the record: I don't think it is impossible to convert one form of energy to another, or to convert matter(mass) to energy.
IMO, devices generating plentiful energy are possible - just not from ambient vacuum.

Short & sharp EM spikes applied to a material Gain Medium (e.g. a thinly slotted thick brass pipe) are likely components of such devices. 
Remember that this discussion started when MenofFather noticed that all these devices have a material Gain Medium, see here.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 03:36:29 PM by verpies »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1860 on: June 07, 2013, 08:50:24 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1861 on: June 07, 2013, 04:38:09 PM »
Tesla was an ingenuous man, for sure. But Tesla couldn't know everything. Otherwise, we wouldn't need this forum since all those problems touched here would be already solved... by Tesla.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1862 on: June 07, 2013, 04:55:27 PM »
  Verpies:
  NO need to explain. I as well as others know just how you feel about the harvesting of ambient energy.
I however don't share your opinion, nor will waist more time discussing it or trying to prove it to someone that does not think that it even exists. You are free to think what you like. However your arrogance does come through for all to see.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1863 on: June 07, 2013, 05:09:17 PM »
In my opinion, if these devices actually work, then the sheet/pipe is the "gain medium" where the energy originates.
It is a physical process aided by electronics. 
The process is not based on electronics alone, thus electronic schematic diagrams cannot illustrate it fully.

Here is probably most recent work of Otto; last several years of his life he devoted to experiment to resolve TPU. In this, probably very last of his documents - he went to similar conclusions. His wasn't aluminum, however: his suggestion is German silver (other names: nickel silver, alpacca and several others).
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/ottos-open-tpu/
http://www.overunity.com/profile/otto.2747/#.UbH5JJywUTU

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1864 on: June 07, 2013, 05:16:35 PM »
I as well as others know just how you feel about the harvesting of ambient energy...
...However your arrogance does come through for all to see.
My opinion about energy from nothing or ambient vacuum is less arrogant than your prediction of my reaction to empirical evidence and your implication of my closed mindedness - both are Ad Hominem statements, with which you have crossed the line. First.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1865 on: June 07, 2013, 05:20:14 PM »
     @Qwert:
     Yes, all those problems that we are discussing here were already known and their solutions were also.
  It was not Tesla at fault, but the greedy people in control of energy, even to this day.
   I'm not saying that he knew everything, but,  enough to give the world free energy, and more.
   Real freedom is what he and everyone else lacks. If you think you're free to do as you like, try to live without money.  Anyway, I know how boring this must all be to some, the well to do, mostly.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1866 on: June 07, 2013, 05:27:34 PM »
  You are the one that crossed the line when you say that Tesla was Very Wrong, and your opinion without any proof is what is right.   
  When you mention energy from "nothing" it implies what you know about it.

  Quote from Verpies:
"It is wrong to conclude, that the Magnacoaster device converts vacuum to energy even if it functions as advertised". 
   "What is "it" ?
If "it" means converting vacuum to energy, then yes, I don't think that's possible."
 
  You are the one crossing lines, as well as disrupting the direction and progress of a free energy forum.
   Like I said, you would not acknowledge it, even if you had it in your hands, and watched it work.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1867 on: June 07, 2013, 05:57:06 PM »
You are the one that crossed the line when you say that Tesla was Very Wrong,
Oh yes, Tesla was very wrong about the structure of matter, but stating that not an Ad Hominem remark.
He did not even realize that charges are quantized and that electrons exist.  I posted a link to that in this message, and that's part of my proof.
Criticizing of Tesla's conclusions is not the same criticizing his character.  In fact, there is nothing wrong in that - it is the result of critical thinking on my part that is devoid of hero-worship (a known killer of objectivity).

and your opinion without any proof is what is right.   
I posted links to Tesla's denial of basic structure of matter and links to videos that prove him wrong in this message.
When you mention energy from "nothing" it implies what you know about it. 

You are the one crossing lines.
No, because I am attacking wrong ideas and you are attacking a person.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1868 on: June 07, 2013, 06:05:51 PM »
  So, I am the one attacking a person???
 
   Making statements like this:
 
  "Oh yes, Tesla was very wrong about the structure of matter",

   You are proving that the electron exists.  You mean,  like proving the Big Bang exists?   Right!

   Guys, sorry for this debate.  TK also had the same argument.  There are many books that "prove" the idea of harvesting energy from the surrounding "Sea of energy".  To those that will comprehend what is being stated.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1869 on: June 07, 2013, 06:14:46 PM »
When you mention energy from "nothing" it implies what you know about it.
I find energy from nothing/vacuum illogical and unsupported by any kind of empirical evidence. 

And since the lack of evidence for existence does not constitute an evidence for non-existence, it is impossible to prove existential negative. Thus the burden of proof lays on the proponent of existence. 
That means you, if you are a proponent of energy from nothing/vacuum.

You are the one crossing lines, as well as disrupting the direction and progress of a free energy forum.
I am not the one making Ad Hominem remarks.  Arguing against an illogical idea is not disruptive nor unscientific. In fact it leads to progress by avoiding wasting resources on dead-ends.
Also, free-energy is not synonymous with energy from nothing or vacuum, thus I am not negating the purpose of this forum.

Like I said, you would not acknowledge it, even if you had it in your hands, and watched it work.
That's an example of line-crossing Ad Hominem remark that purports to predict my close mindedness in light of experimental evidence.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1870 on: June 07, 2013, 06:26:41 PM »
So, I am the one attacking a person???
Yes, by making predicative statements about my closed mindedness in light of hypothetical empirical evidence.
If you attacked my ideas not my character, it would be different.  For example, if you wrote "you are wrong that electron exists" then that would be an attack on my idea - not my character, and that would be acceptable.
 
Making statements like this:  "Oh yes, Tesla was very wrong about the structure of matter",
You are proving that the electron exists.
No, it is an illustration that Tesla thought that electron does not exist and that his understanding of nature was not complete.
The existence of electron became common knowledge after Tesla's time and if that knowledge has omitted you somehow, I cited a recent discussion in this thread that reiterates the experimental evidence for electron's existence.

like proving the Big Bang exists?   Right!
That's derision and off-topic.
FYI: I don't believe in Big Bang any more than I believe in aether or GR.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1871 on: June 07, 2013, 06:34:12 PM »
  Quite right! You said it. That is what closed minded is. You've proved your point.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1872 on: June 07, 2013, 06:39:13 PM »
Gentlemen,

Please would you continue 'chatting' via Personal Messages?

Thanks, 
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1873 on: June 07, 2013, 07:28:17 PM »
  Well, no problem, as I'm done "chatting".  However if this thread is boring or disruptive to you, it may not be to some of us. As the purpose here, is to discuss and create free energy. But, that will not happen if the idea that some have is that it does not exist at all, in the form that Daly, Kapandze, or Tesla, has explained or tried to show it.  Which is what this thread is all about.
     

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #1874 on: June 07, 2013, 07:42:54 PM »
As the purpose here, is to discuss and create free energy. But, that will not happen if the idea that some have is that it does not exist at all, in the form that Daly, Kapandze, or Tesla, has explained or tried to show it.  Which is what this thread is all about.
Must I repeat that free energy is not synonymous with energy from nothing or vacuum?
Recently on this forum nobody even made the straw-man claim, that free energy does not exist at all. 

I claimed that energy from nothing or vacuum is illogical and unsupported by any empirical evidence. - including Magnacoaster, SM, Meyer, TK, Dally, etc...

Energy from matter (coax, wire, plastic, water, ferrite, metal pipe or even air) is more-less logical and supported by some empirical evidence - energy from nothing or vacuum, is not.

 

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