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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718972 times)

NickZ

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« Reply #18090 on: September 23, 2017, 10:53:31 PM »
  AG:
  No my yoke is not from a Russian TV.
  What makes you think that it's not working? I think it is.
  Akula could not make his first yoke (about the same size as yours) work. And it was a Russian yoke.
  My yoke with windings is 4 inches across. Size also matters, not just composition.
  There are guys that don't use TV yokes, but have self runners using 3 inch toroidal cores, instead.
  TV yokes are made for 15KHz. And that is the exact same frequency that my yoke is working at.

Void

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« Reply #18091 on: September 24, 2017, 12:14:35 AM »
To maybe help keep things in perspective, I think Daly didn't use a TV Yoke core
at his PWM output. He used what looked like some other type of toroid core, and Daly
also didn't use a grenade winding. His coils on the tube were all just regular coils. I think Akula probably
tried the 'grenade' type coil because that was what Kapanadze had shown in his Aquarium II video.
Since Daly showed a self runner with just ordinary coils wound on his cardboard tube, this
would seem to indicate that it can be done with regular coils as well. For the PWM toroid, it
seems maybe any ferrite toroid of suitable size should work as long as it works well in the
frequency range you are running your PWM at.


NickZ

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« Reply #18092 on: September 24, 2017, 01:05:58 AM »
   Nor could Dally do what Ruslan or Akula can do. 4000w worth of bulbs lit up, using yoke cores and grenade builds.
Yoke cores have twice the volume of ferrite used than the normal toroid cores of the same width, and also requires twice the amount of copper in the windings, comparatively. And possibly, even twice the output gain, as well. To keep things in perspective, as you say.

Void

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« Reply #18093 on: September 24, 2017, 01:20:53 AM »
Not sure what you are trying to say Nick. You can get ferrite toroids
with much thicker ferrite than is in a typical TV yoke core, and you can also
double or triple stack thinner ferrite toroids if you want a much thicker toroid for higher power handling capacity.
You can also wind thick copper wire on large diameter ferrite toroids as well. You can get ferrite
toroids of about 5" or 6" diameter or so if you look around. So none of that is a limiting issue at all. ;)

Also, Daly never really tried to build a higher output device, as he apparently got fed up with all the
people saying his setup was fake, and apparently stopped working on these types of setups
for quite a while (at least publicly). If he had kept experimenting with his setup and making improvements, he might
very well have been able to power much larger loads with his type of setup. No one can say with any certainty at
this point what kind of power output can be obtained with Daly's coil winding approach. He apparently
achieved a self runner with his setup, so that was pretty good for a start. ;)

When someone can demonstrate that they have a self running OU device along these lines, then
they can maybe have some authority to say what is better and what is worse, if they can back it up
with demonstrations. :) My point was Daly was (apparently) able to make a self runner without
a TV yoke core and with ordinary coils on the air core tube, and that is nothing to sneeze at. :D


NickZ

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« Reply #18094 on: September 24, 2017, 01:52:15 AM »
   Yes, that may be true.  But, do you think that has not all been tried? Toroid cores verses yokes.
   Think of the cost of multiple stacked 5 or 6 inch toroid cores, compared to free TV yoke cores, which came up to about 5 inches or so from 34 inch CRT Tv. And can also be stacked just like the toroid's can be.
  Geo, for example did use a toroid core as well as yokes. And stalker also. So, they can posibly both be used and can work, although Geo nor possibly Stalker did not show a self runner using toroids, it doesn't mean they don't work. In any case the choice is yours.
  I choose free yoke cores. That's all I'm saying.

Void

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« Reply #18095 on: September 24, 2017, 02:00:21 AM »
No worries Nick. I wasn't saying one way is necessarily better or worse than another.
I was just pointing out that Daly was apparently able to achieve a self runner with
some other type of ferrite toroid and with ordinary wound coils on his air core cardboard tube.
This apparently shows that the OU effect is not strictly dependent on using TV yoke cores and
'grenade' coils, was all I was trying to point out. :)

NickZ

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« Reply #18096 on: September 24, 2017, 02:13:45 AM »
No worries Nick. I wasn't saying one way is necessarily better or worse than another.
I was just pointing out that Daly was apparently able to achieve a self runner with
some other type of ferrite toroid and with ordinary wound coils on his air core cardboard tube.
This apparently shows that the OU effect is not strictly dependent on using TV yoke cores and
'grenade' coils, was all I was trying to point out. :)


   Yes, and there are self runners needing no toroid cores nor yokes. Such as the Poma (or Roma) device only used a Kacher and air cores to produce a similar output as Ruslan has shown.

Void

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« Reply #18097 on: September 24, 2017, 03:16:33 AM »
Yes, if the Roma Grits device was legit. Kapanadze seems to have used a very simple
arrangement in his early setups, and his early setups seem quite close to stuff Don Smith was showing 
and writing about a number of years before Kapanadze appeared on the scene. Makes me
wonder if Kapanadze just copied one of Don Smith's simple designs which were getting distributed
around the net as far back as 1996 or so, or possibly even earlier, and figured out how to make it work. :D

NickZ

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« Reply #18098 on: September 24, 2017, 06:11:13 AM »
Yes, if the Roma Grits device was legit. Kapanadze seems to have used a very simple
arrangement in his early setups, and his early setups seem quite close to stuff Don Smith was showing 
and writing about a number of years before Kapanadze appeared on the scene. Makes me
wonder if Kapanadze just copied one of Don Smith's simple designs which were getting distributed
around the net as far back as 1996 or so, or possibly even earlier, and figured out how to make it work. :D


  Well I doubt that Tariel was the actual builder of his displayed devices,  and Dally is his cousin. So who knows what came first or who invented the original device, and all others are knockoffs of it.  Many ways to skin a cat.
  But it looks like the Poma device is some kind of take off of the Kapanadze design. And there are some other guys that have similar working replications. As always, the real info on it ends there.
  So simple you'd laugh,  as the saying goes.

Void

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« Reply #18099 on: September 24, 2017, 06:36:41 AM »

  Well I doubt that Tariel was the actual builder of his displayed devices,  and Dally is his cousin. So who knows what came first or who invented the original device, and all others are knockoffs of it.  Many ways to skin a cat.
  But it looks like the Poma device is some kind of take off of the Kapanadze design. And there are some other guys that have similar working replications. As always, the real info on it ends there.
  So simple you'd laugh,  as the saying goes.

If Daly is related to Kapanadze in any way, that is the first I've heard about it.
I doubt that Daly is actually related to Kapanadze, but his device was sort of a
'cousin' to Kapanadze's devices, since it seemed to employ a similar approach. :)

Don Smith's simplest device along these lines is basically just a high voltage driver, a tesla coil,
and one or two sparkgaps and an earth ground, and nothing much more, and Kapanadze's early
devices seem to have been very similar, so it seems possible that the principle behind these
devices really is relatively quite simple. :)

I am working on a build of a basic setup that will allow me to put some of these basic configurations
to the test at a half decent amount of input power, to see if I can find the elusive OU effect. :)
It seems Kapanadze's early devices used around 80W input power to produce about 4 kW to 5 kW
of output power (rough estimation). Not sure how much input power Akula and Ruslan's devices
required when powering a bunch of bulbs, but it was probably somewhere in that area, if not even more.


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« Reply #18100 on: September 24, 2017, 10:13:07 AM »
I tend to agree that the shape of the yoke is not a critical factor in achieving a working device. Like T1000, I think that the device is a capacitive charge pump and from my perspective the ferrite yoke is just a transformer for delivering pulses to the heart of the device and can be replaced with ferrite torroids. However, I still think that the type of ferrite used may be important and this is where the Russians & Eastern bloc neighbours may have something a bit special about the composition of their yokes and other ferrites used in their devices.

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« Reply #18101 on: September 24, 2017, 03:06:39 PM »
I tend to agree that the shape of the yoke is not a critical factor in achieving a working device. Like T1000, I think that the device is a capacitive charge pump and from my perspective the ferrite yoke is just a transformer for delivering pulses to the heart of the device and can be replaced with ferrite torroids. However, I still think that the type of ferrite used may be important and this is where the Russians & Eastern bloc neighbours may have something a bit special about the composition of their yokes and other ferrites used in their devices.
What ?    don't ask me what it means !
If you judge a book by its cover then you judge the look by your toroid, I hope you soon recover ;)

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« Reply #18102 on: September 24, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
Yes well joking apart left for a moment!  Somewhere in the early database there was either a link or an article on Russian surplus components it focused on Dally's toroid it showed a one and its connections it is out of a 12 0 12 Vold DC to DC converter to 240 250 volt converter anything coated in that moisture proof green stuff is Russian Military surplus. See if you can find it your self the device contains barium, do you know what barium does and its properties are? Just stand under a chemtrail and breath it in  :'( :'(

You won't find this type of device easy, the article also talked about 'C' or 'U' cores used in 3 phase devices and a power gain from them, We live in the west it's about money do you believe anything some idiot in uniform tels you?  the word Trump do you know the meaning of it or Barack? think outside the box. Please! Be aware in your world of illusion.

http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/225/#.WcfS7cZrzvw

Allen
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Void

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« Reply #18103 on: September 24, 2017, 03:35:20 PM »
Ok on that Hoppy. I am currently inclined to think that the specific type of
ferrite is not important in these setups, as long as the ferrite works suitably in the
frequency range you are using it at, but I could be wrong. :)  My experiments to date
have occasionally shown potentially interesting effects, but I have reached a point that
I think I will have to start running my tests at higher power now if I am going to have a better
chance of finding the elusive OU effect. Lower power tests leave too much room for possible measurement
error and possible inadvertent external influences and that sort of thing, so I think a person can only go so
far with that approach as there will still be remaining question marks.  I will now try running through my various
tests at higher power and see if anything interesting still remains, or if it all just goes up in smoke, so to speak. ;D

One interesting effect that I have seen on a number of occasions over the last few years in my tests
is a sort of fluctuating or pulsing brightness effect on LED lights when testing different setups with an earth
ground connection. That may be something to do with the way LEDs work however when used at higher frequencies.
A recent test I did had this pulsing occurring randomly in the sense that the fluctuating would stop for about
thirty seconds or so and then start up again for a while and then stop again for a while, even though the frequency
applied to the setup was very stable. I am talking about AC frequencies well in the kHz range here, so the pulsing was not
due to pulsing at a really low frequency. I find LEDs are a bit unusual in general when you use them at higher frequencies.
I have done some experiments which seem to possibly show that LEDS used at higher frequencies like that
are either very close to 100% efficient or maybe even a bit OU, but it is hard to say for sure at the low
power levels I have tried it at so far. :) Maybe one of these days I will do a setup with LED lights at a
lot higher power to see if the weirdness can be confirmed at higher power levels. :D

Hoppy

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« Reply #18104 on: September 24, 2017, 07:44:19 PM »
Hi Void,

Your test setup observations using LED lamps and earthing sounds interesting. Can you please detail your setup?

I feel motivated to experiment along these lines, especially as electrically efficient LED lamps have almost superseded low efficiency incandescent lamps for most domestic and many industrial applications.