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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 9748636 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17880 on: August 30, 2017, 03:35:00 AM »
Hi I'm sure many will help you out with that question on this page and you can find many circuits in the data base on a good few designs, but this device would need access to a good earth out side with a metallic rod sunk in some damp portion of the garden, common internal electrical earth's don't work too good with household earth nor  plastic gas or water pipes or apartment buildings ect. unless you know you have access to an independent earth i wouldn't bother, but some other ideas might not need an earth.

Hope that bit helps.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17881 on: August 30, 2017, 09:39:07 AM »
Thanks AlienGrey,

2 months ago  I driven a 1 meter sixty centimeters rod in the ground where I live  ( it is under my house  where it is always damp ... the water level is pretty  high  where  i live.
And i soldered a copper cable onto the rod, about 12 meters long.

This video from Itsu  that looks very  nice and tidy  ... is  this  according to  a schematic from Aleew Sergey ?  or is  it modified , changed .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBCAmXzmgkg

What schematic are you  using Itsu.

I attached a screen shot  from a Alexeew Sergey video   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFQvMjj6DD4

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17882 on: August 30, 2017, 10:43:41 AM »
Hi Itsu. That was a good video. Was there any particular phase shift setting for firing the kacher
that made the load light bulb at all noticeably more brighter than other phase settings? For example, did you get
any better brightness on the bulbs when firing the kacher on the current peaks for the resonant loop?
Did you have an earth ground wire connected, and, if so, where was it connected to? I realize the video was from
Nov. 2015, so you may not remember all the details now.

Hi Void,

no, shifting the kacher firing moment did not show any effect on the brightness of the bulb.
I could both shift it ±90° as well i could flip it over to fire (and shift) to the negative side of the sine wave.

I had an earth ground connected, but that is one of the reasons i stopped working on this setup as that ground probably was not good.
It consisted of about 10m heavy breaded (1.5cm wide) copper wire connected to the copper plumbing system here on my attic where i have my bench.
This copper plumbing system is at the ground level connected to the main earthing point of the house.
Its OK for normal household uses, but i doubt its what is needed for this setup.


Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17883 on: August 30, 2017, 11:29:00 AM »
Hi I thought I would mention the Earth thing which to my mind reflects all the way through this device is the ground frequency, if your using 38m of wire on your grenade and 1/2 that on your inductor you need to introduce the missing another half back into the tuned circuit, this is why you need such a long Earth wire to complete the wave.

Adrian Guska mentions this in his video.

regards Allen

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17884 on: August 30, 2017, 11:39:05 AM »
Utopia Now,

In my linked video above (non PLL 1) i was basically following the Oleg diagram, see link here:
 
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg463785/topicseen/#msg463785

It has a PLL chip (4046) to generate the push pull signals, but later i found out that this was not really a phase locked loop system.
So i was using a TL494 setup, but kept the rest of that diagram (therefor the name of the video "non PLL 1")


More later i switched to the lossless clamp design from verpies as a yoke system.

So its not that easy to simply give a diagram, as everybody will use their own.
I am afraid you need to start reading up on all the posts to get a good idea of what was tried.

A 1.6m copper rod will hardly do for a good ground, something like 10 to 15 meters would be more useable, please read up on earthing systems here in the Netherlands.

The linked video of my TL494 system was for Nick, who had build the Stalker TL494 circuit i think, so a copied it on a breadboard.
The push pull circuit behind it was something i was using for something else, but was useable for this demo.
You have to go back in this thread to find the discussion about this used tl494 circuit, its around page 1160.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17885 on: August 30, 2017, 12:47:56 PM »
Hi Itsu. That was a good video. Was there any particular phase shift setting for firing the kacher
that made the load light bulb at all noticeably more brighter than other phase settings? For example, did you get
any better brightness on the bulbs when firing the kacher on the current peaks for the resonant loop?
Did you have an earth ground wire connected, and, if so, where was it connected to? I realize the video was from
Nov. 2015, so you may not remember all the details now.
Hi every one, I wouldn't normally open this post post as it's addressed to another, but I have been asked to tell what I know, and it might help others, from tests made on a 'correctly' wound grenade coil Also there are no phases each harmonic should start and finish in it's own 1/14 of the 38m wave, creating its own mini wave (assuming you used 38m or any other tuned length). If you want the device to work accurately measure the wire length and mark it (dead on) and don't use number or turns or try and make it look symmetrical like some one else's or it won't work, again it has to be dead on wave length or harmonics like i said,

top 2 layers 2.714285714m cw
middle 2 layers 5.428571429 m cw
bottom 2 layers 10.85714286m  ccw
oh and eather wind it with no spills between layers or as Mr Stalker shows in his PDF on his web site
The idea is to stack the waves and harmonics on or in each other.
as i said it all needs to be on wire length not turns of wire 'wire length'! serious stuff !

total 2.714285714 m is the 1/14th harmonic (14 x 2.714285714 = 38m) on the coil (add a 1/4 m on each leg to get you out of the 50mm tube no more or less.

As an after thought you might want to go through his video's on his grenade building experiences it's all there in Russian, my Russian is pretty well disgusting but he has made use of the CC switch and you can use the translate to step through it all, (many happy hours ;) )
Allen

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17886 on: August 30, 2017, 01:07:24 PM »
I think so many things affect the waves and resonance, that exact lengths are never possible. Grenade diameter, wire quality, fields from other components they all come to play.

They are a good way to check your own coils. If you are meters off from the working version you need to rebuild the coil. Sure you can hit other harmonics with different lengths, but start with tested measurements

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17887 on: August 30, 2017, 03:08:09 PM »
I think so many things affect the waves and resonance, that exact lengths are never possible. Grenade diameter, wire quality, fields from other components they all come to play.

They are a good way to check your own coils. If you are meters off from the working version you need to rebuild the coil. Sure you can hit other harmonics with different lengths, but start with tested measurements
A good way to test this theory is to connect a signal generator to the inductor winding and slowly wind the frequency up 10hz at a time and monitor the output on a scope, your looking for super imposed sine waves at quite high frequencies on top of each other, I had many useless coils and many conversations with other builders and many nights scrolling through Russian language forums to get anywhere.

Anyway enough said on this so I will wish you good luck and I hope you have as much fun as I did arriving at so many pretty patterns on a scope ;)

Regards Allen

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17888 on: August 30, 2017, 03:15:38 PM »
A good way to test this theory is to connect a signal generator to the inductor winding and slowly wind the frequency up 10hz at a time and monitor the output on a scope, your looking for super imposed sine waves at quite high frequencies on top of each other, I had many useless coils and many conversations with other builders and many nights scrolling through Russian language forums to get anywhere.

Anyway enough said on this so I will wish you good luck and I hope you have as much fun as I did arriving at so many pretty patterns on a scope ;)

Regards Allen

Hey after 23 years of not touching any circuits I have a square wave showing up on my first ever oscilloscope! I am pretty excited already. I spent like 200€ last night when ordering all kinds of shit I think I need. Do not get drunk and think of this stuff!

TL494 is working and I am blasting my first coils. I am going to be burning MOSFETs in no time!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17889 on: August 30, 2017, 04:01:04 PM »
Hi Void,
no, shifting the kacher firing moment did not show any effect on the brightness of the bulb.
I could both shift it ±90° as well i could flip it over to fire (and shift) to the negative side of the sine wave.
I had an earth ground connected, but that is one of the reasons i stopped working on this setup as that ground probably was not good.
It consisted of about 10m heavy breaded (1.5cm wide) copper wire connected to the copper plumbing system here on my attic where i have my bench.
This copper plumbing system is at the ground level connected to the main earthing point of the house.
Its OK for normal household uses, but i doubt its what is needed for this setup.
Itsu

Hi Itsu. Well you certainly seem to have covered the bases in your tests. The earth ground you mention
doesn't sound so bad, especially if your cold water pipe intake to the house is a metal pipe in the ground.
I will keep thinking about what we could be missing. Thanks for the info on your own experiments. That is
very helpful for others trying to replicate this kind of setup.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17890 on: August 30, 2017, 05:06:36 PM »
   Itsu:
   As both of the smaller 56 ohm carbon snubber resistor went up in smoke, I replaced it with a 3 watt 56 ohm unknown type of resistor. It's sort of a pink/tan color. May be wire wound, but I don't know.
   Any way, even that bigger 3 watt resistor overheats just the same as the smaller one had done. And is untouchable in less than a minutes running time.
   Any ideas as to what to do about it. Do your resistors get hot, as well?
   Still no interaction from my Kacher onto the induction circuits.
   
   One thing that I've learned by working on my set up is that the earth ground line will only really do something, if the rest of the system is really in resonance. Otherwise there is NO effect from the ground lines.
   I have two 37.5 meter long Earth ground lines going into my water well that's in my back yard. But, now I don't notice any improvement when I connect it up to the device. This tell me that the device is NOT in resonance, no matter how I turn the TL 494 controllers. There has been no change in my Kacher or grenade since the TL494 replaced the Mazilli driver.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17891 on: August 30, 2017, 05:14:39 PM »

Nick,

no, i use ½w resistors and they won't heat up, but mine are 180 Ohm ones.
Did they also heat up when NOT using the Oleg spike snubber?

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17892 on: August 30, 2017, 05:22:56 PM »
  Itsu:
  I don't think that they heat up without the Oleg snubber on.
  I'll disconnect the Oleg snubber and see if the 3w resistors heat up, or not, without that snubber on.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17893 on: August 30, 2017, 05:26:19 PM »
Nick,

IMO a better solution would be to use a TVS diode (drain to source) with a power rating of say 1500W and a clamping voltage (not breakdown voltage) rating Vc of safely under the minimum breakdown voltage rating of your mosfets.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17894 on: August 30, 2017, 05:48:18 PM »

Ok, if they do not heat up without the Oleg snubbers, then i think something is wrong with the Oleg snubber.
Remembering you strange voltage levels on the drains (50V with 12V supply etc.) aids in that.
Either the components are not suitable (wire wound resistor, inferiour cap) or you have wired them up wrongly somehow.

Double check on their connections.

You might want to switch to TVS diodes instead of the Oleg snubber as suggested by Hoppy.


Itsu