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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11689264 times)

ramset

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17820 on: August 20, 2017, 05:57:13 AM »
Hhmm
well I heard today that a member and builder here was put on Moderation [AG],normally these things are not spoken about.

but this  ??

this is a poor option IMO , I have not been able to read much here do to a horrible eye injury, nor do I criticize our host
he has much going on in his life ATM.

surely we have other options here?

removing Ag's membership should not be on the table [seems it is]


we need all the help we can get around here ,good builders with skills don't grow on tree's

we are after all men with the same goals ,and the same open source beliefs .

just one mans opinion
respectfully
Chet K





Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17821 on: August 20, 2017, 06:27:38 AM »
Only 2 energy fields in the universe Electric and Magnetic.  Coils store magnetic , Capacitors store electric. When these 2 fields combined in an oscillation they can radiate in electromagnetic photons. Electric is based on surface area, pressure, stored at the electron layer and stationary. Magnetic field is based on mass, dynamic, stored at the atom nucleus, this is why magnetic energy storage can be increased with large iron cores. If this device brings in a large electric field from the tesla/katcher circuit and a large magnetic field from the yoke circuit will it be multiplied, no it will be added.  Even tho power is voltage time current, there is an error in thinking it will multiply in this manor. Power is voltage times current in the same component at the same instant. Not voltage from one source times current from another source. The shape and arrangement of the coils and driving wave forms are irrelevant. Resonant circuits are only circuits capable of storing equal amount of Electric vs Magnetic energies to oscillate back and forth, efficient yes over unity no. It seems the only significant source of energy we could tap is from the matter itself. We need a catalysis to coax out the energy from matter. see www.brilliantlightpower.com So what is the catalysis in this device? At the web sight shown they use hydrogen and the matter to extract from and K potassium as the catalysis. So perhaps we need to coat the wires with a potassium coating and hermetically seal this device in hydrogen to make it work.  ( or hide a battery in a box)

Interesting comments. Adding of the power from the two sources versus multiplication is what I see as well,
regardless of the coil configuration. Somewhere in there a secret is still hiding. :)

Grumage

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17822 on: August 20, 2017, 12:15:32 PM »
   OK, I'll do that later tonight.
   But, should I use the 12v battery instead of the PSU? As I'd be running new FETs at possibly close to 300v.
   I've tried to do what I can to figure out why there is a difference in the running frequency, but I still don't have a clue. The wires lenght are the same for both fets. And the TL494 and drivers run very similar, so it's probably not that.

Dear Nick.

Do try the battery, in one of my experiments I was seeing a linear ring signal, turned out to be interference from the quite expensive switch mode bench power supply I was using.

Might even shed light on your odd FET voltages?

Cheers Graham.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17823 on: August 20, 2017, 12:55:15 PM »
Good morning Chet.

I couldn't agree more with your post.

With Stefan being so busy these days it's highly unlikely that any of AlienGrey's future posts will be seen, as Stefan is the only moderator.

We all have our opinions and life dictates that some will clash with others, let's keep it clean and start afresh?

Cheers Graham

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17824 on: August 20, 2017, 04:33:05 PM »
   Grum:
   I'm using a 12v, 7ah battery at the moment with one foot long connection wires. And still seeing the big spikes, and different ringing frequencies.
  I will remove the snubber caps to test the ringing frequency with them off. But it only take a few seconds to see the fets go up in smoke. Actually they don't even get a chance to heat up, before they blow. And is why I'm concerned about removing the caps to test the ringing frequency.
   I'll know more later today. As I'm letting the device run for a while to drain some juice from the battery, down to 10.5 volts.
Then I'll remove the snubber caps and retest.

   Looks like Void got his way, with Alien Grey.

DavidWolff

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17825 on: August 20, 2017, 11:18:52 PM »
Nick Z what do you mean void got his way with the alien ? does the Dailly device work or, what i am asking is what can I build that works ?

David Walff

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17826 on: August 21, 2017, 02:25:36 AM »
   Itsu:
   Both fets are showing the expanded ringing signal is now at 1.85 div, at the .5us setting, with no snubber caps installed. 
This is with a 12v battery with only 11v on it, and a one foot cable going to the device switch.
I have 240 volts peaks, at full duty cycle, while using a 100W watt bulb as the load.
  At: 1.85 div, times .5us is O.925. Calctool gives me 1.08MHz.
  Correct?

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17827 on: August 21, 2017, 11:18:58 AM »
Nick,

so they are equal now?  What has changed as you earlier said that the ringing frequencies were different!!


Anyway, 1.85 div.  (thats very precise) times 0.5us/div. gives indeed 0.925us which points to a ringing frequency of 1.08Mhz.  Correct.
This is half the ringing frequency you give me earlier!?
On the other hand its much closer to the ringing frequency i have in my setup (820KHz).


Now we start again at step 2, try to half this ringing frequency by adding a capacitor across the drain / source.
Give the value of this capacitor, then we can continue the procedure.


Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17828 on: August 21, 2017, 04:28:36 PM »
   Itsu:
   Possibly what has changed is that I am not using the same older fets, which showed a difference between them. And possibly also that I'm using a much lower voltage. I ran the battery way down to 8v, then let it recover to 11v, and only turned it on for a few seconds for the snubber tests without the caps. But, I needed to practice doing all this using the older still working fets.
Other than that, the battery was run from one foot connection wires, instead of two foot connection cables from the PSU. So now, both peaks from the snubbers are very similar in voltages, and ringing frequencies.

   These are the things that most of us have not done in the past.
And hopefully will make a difference, in being able to "crack this nut".

I'll let you know about what caps are needed to 1/2 the ringing frequency. But, more than likely the 102M caps will still be used.
   Again, thanks for your help. I couldn't of done this without you.
                                                                                                Nick
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17829 on: August 22, 2017, 12:47:45 AM »
   Dog-One:
   I checked about the location of the scope. The Costa Rican postal service says that they have not received it yet.
And that it can take 2 to 4 weeks to arrive.  So, I'll check back with them, in a week or so, now that I have their number.
   The package may be taking it's time, but possibly is not lost in the mail, as yet.
                                                                                                                       Nick

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17830 on: August 22, 2017, 05:29:46 AM »
   I checked about the location of the scope. The Costa Rican postal service says that they have not received it yet.
And that it can take 2 to 4 weeks to arrive.  So, I'll check back with them, in a week or so, now that I have their number.
   The package may be taking it's time, but possibly is not lost in the mail, as yet.

Keeping my fingers crossed.  I'm pretty sure this will help you a lot
to gauge where your push/pull driver is needing attention.

I'll also swing by the postal annex and let them know their 10 business
day estimation was way off.  Maybe they will be able to run a trace
on the shipment and get someone's attention to wake up and get
this package on the move.  Can't hurt.

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17831 on: August 22, 2017, 05:36:05 AM »
  Itsu:
  I find that a single blue 103 2kv HVcap on the left Fet brings it right down to 500KHz. Down by 1/2 from 1.08MHz, with no cap on.
The right fet using the same 103 cap, goes down to 444KHz. Is that close enough, or not.
The left fet was showing 4div, at .5us.  The right fet was 4.5div at 0.5us setting.
  Running on 12v battery with only 9.2v on it, with a 100w bulb load barely lighting.  200 plus volt spikes.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17832 on: August 22, 2017, 06:07:11 AM »
   Dog-One:
   Good to see that you're reading these posts.
   Checking on the scopes location would be great, if you can.
  I did what I could for now, on my end.

   How are you coming with your version of Nelson's device?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17833 on: August 22, 2017, 05:37:17 PM »

Nick,

a 103 (10nF) cap looks rather big to me, but it is what it is.
So the parasitic capacitance that is causing that ringing suppose to be 1/3th of that 10nF, so 3.3nF.
Right away we can determine the final caps value as it should be 4 to 10 times this 3.3nF, so you can start looking
for suitable ceramic caps inbetween 15 to 33nF (600V or so).


The parasitic inductance calculated with step 3 of the procedure (or via this website: http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm) is
L = 1 / [(2 x 3.14 x 1.08MHz)² * 3.3nF] = 6.6µH

The resulting characteristic impedance (step 4) will be  (or via http://ncalculators.com/electrical/transmission-line-characteristic-impedance-calculator.htm)
Z = SQRT (6.6µH / 3.3nF) = 45 Ohm


Meaning you will need to build a RC snubber consisting of a 45 Ohm resistor and a 15-33nF capacitor in series.
Place the RC with the free resistor side to the drain and with the free capacitor side to the source.
Use as short as possible leads.

Your ringing should be gone almost, but beware of the single spike that still will exist, so use the low voltage first.

Make screenshots and we will be taking it from there.

Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17834 on: August 22, 2017, 11:36:51 PM »
   Itsu: sounds like two 103M 2000v blue caps in parallel, for a total of 20 nf, and the 45 ohm resistor should do.   
   I guess the resistor should be like two watts size?
   I'll look for some of those parts.