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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7924308 times)

Offline Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17730 on: August 15, 2017, 02:53:57 PM »
In my book Tesla was closer to God than any other mortal. The ability to see what others read in books without comprehending was amazing. Calling Tesla a con man is like saying that Pythagoras had no idea what geometry means.

Genuine inventors do not have to con anything. Sadly most of the people just want to make a quick $ and move to a tropical island. You can tell a con man usually pretty quick. If they help you out there is a chance they are for real. If they start talking about money walk away.

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« Reply #17731 on: August 15, 2017, 03:43:10 PM »
   Guys:
   You guys can talk about the Kapanadze devices all you want. But, all those discussions will end up nowhere. As not one of your will ever built a Kapanadze replication to test out any of your ideas. So, talk all you want... fill another thousand pages of useless BS.
   You are all just repeating what has been mentioned many times before, and which has led to nothing.
   Are you afraid to use the Kapanadze thread, instead? Because no one will pay attention to your posts??? No one is building anything there? And so you come here, instead, to continue the same old useless discussions.

   I believe that the guys on this thread that are really trying to work on the Akula/Ruslan type of devices, consider the discussion on the Kapanadze devices a distraction, instead.  So, talk away, but don't expect any valuable comments from most of us. Just from the guys that like to talk and talk, but do nothing about it to test their ideas, and just keep repeating the same old sh!t.
2004 to 2017. And not a single TK replication, that works. So, talk away, by all means. Until you all get bored of it, as well.
   

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17732 on: August 15, 2017, 03:49:01 PM »
In my book Tesla was closer to God than any other mortal. The ability to see what others read in books without comprehending was amazing. Calling Tesla a con man is like saying that Pythagoras had no idea what geometry means.

Genuine investors do not have to con anything. Sadly most of the people just want to make a quick $ and move to a tropical island. You can tell a con man usually pretty quick. If they help you out there is a chance they are for real. If they start talking about money walk away.
Oh I'm not so sure as most tropical paradises by now have got US NATO air bases on them and the natives are all waving a credit card to prop up the US capitalist economy, whats wrong with cash? but then you can't eat money when the last chemo crop has gone! ;) PS they stone inventors on this tread ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17733 on: August 15, 2017, 04:12:22 PM »
In my book Tesla was closer to God than any other mortal. The ability to see what others read in books without comprehending was amazing. Calling Tesla a con man is like saying that Pythagoras had no idea what geometry means.


Hi Belfior. Yes, I think there is no question that Tesla was a genius.
It appears true however that Tesla has never talked or wrote about free energy in the sense
of extra energy coming from the ether or vacuum or similar, at least I have never seen a
valid quote which can be confirmed as coming from from Tesla where he talks about such stuff.
It doesn't necessarily mean that Tesla thought that such things were not possible,
but just that he didn't seem to have ever talked or written about it.

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« Reply #17734 on: August 15, 2017, 04:53:46 PM »


Hi Belfior. Yes, I think there is no question that Tesla was a genius.
It appears true however that Tesla has never talked or wrote about free energy in the sense of extra energy coming from the ether or vacuum or similar, at least I have never seen a
valid quote which can be confirmed as coming from Tesla where he talks about such stuff.
It doesn't necessarily mean that Tesla thought that such things were not possible,
but just that he didn't seem to have ever talked or written about it.
;) really ;) how do you make that out? For a start that's all Tesla and Faraday ever argued about from day one. For a start, it was always about money and gain! Tesla built his FREE energy transmitter (Wordencliffe tower)on a Phishur but once Faraday found out what he could not compete with metering this type of energy he shut Tesla down Tesla leaving him penniless in a New York apartment with only Westing house supporting him. S o what was that all about if it wasn't free energy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower

http://tapnewswire.com/2015/05/the-nikola-tesla-interview-hidden-for-116-years/

Tesla also said ' Everything is the light '.

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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17735 on: August 15, 2017, 04:59:25 PM »
 
2004 to 2017. And not a single TK replication, that works. So, talk away, by all means. Until you all get bored of it, as well.
 

Nick,

Do you think that the Gerson Paiva TK self-running videos posted here earlier are fake and if so why? You may recall that this thread started with attempts to replicate the Daly device, which I considered at the time was probably close to TK's 2004 device. Myself and some others had little success replicating the Daly device but there was plenty of technical info to go on. Attempts to replicate the Akula and Ruslan claimed self-running devices have also met with little reported success by some of those on this forum. We can't be sure that the circuit diagrams and technical details in the public domain for any of the claimed self-runners from Akula and Ruslan are accurate and   likely to result in a self-runner, so any new idea or circuit handout justifies discussion on this thread IMO. It might still be worth re-visiting the Daly device, which I still consider to be close to TK's. At the end of the day Nick its down to personal opinion and not worth getting upset over.

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« Reply #17736 on: August 15, 2017, 05:14:36 PM »
Nick,

Do you think that the Gerson Paiva TK self-running videos posted here earlier are fake and if so why? You may recall that this thread started with attempts to replicate the Daly device, which I considered at the time was probably close to TK's 2004 device. I and some others had little success replicating the Daly device but there was plenty of technical info to go on. Attempts to replicate the Akula and Ruslan claimed self-running devices have also met with little-reported success by some of those on this forum. We can't be sure that the circuit diagrams and technical details in the public domain for any of the claimed self-runners from Akula and Ruslan are accurate and likely to result in a self-runner, so any new idea or circuit hand out justifies discussion on this thread IMO. It might still be worth re-visiting the Daly device, which I still consider to be close to TK's. At the end of the day, Nick it's down to personal opinion and not worth getting upset over.
Sorry to but in but need a quick refresh on this one, I'm not sure I know that circuit and layout have you a pointer to it, also before starting such a device 'do you know how it works '? Have you worked that much out yet? Once you know that it then becomes easy ;)

And good luck to you both ;)

Allen

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Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17737 on: August 15, 2017, 05:52:11 PM »
Sorry to but in but need a quick refresh on this one, I'm not sure I know that circuit and layout have you a pointer to it, also before starting such a device 'do you know how it works '? Have you worked that much out yet? Once you know that it then becomes easy ;)

And good luck to you both ;)

Allen

If you are referring to the Daly Device, just look through the front end of this thread. There are many posts, including circuit schematics on the subject. I clearly do not know how this device works, as I never managed to get it self-running. If you are referring to the Gerson device, I'm not aware that he has posted any schematics.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17738 on: August 15, 2017, 06:01:39 PM »
   Guys:
   You guys can talk about the Kapanadze devices all you want. But, all those discussions will end up nowhere. As not one of your will ever built a Kapanadze replication to test out any of your ideas. So, talk all you want... fill another thousand pages of useless BS.
   You are all just repeating what has been mentioned many times before, and which has led to nothing.
   Are you afraid to use the Kapanadze thread, instead? Because no one will pay attention to your posts??? No one is building anything there? And so you come here, instead, to continue the same old useless discussions.

   I believe that the guys on this thread that are really trying to work on the Akula/Ruslan type of devices, consider the discussion on the Kapanadze devices a distraction, instead.  So, talk away, but don't expect any valuable comments from most of us. Just from the guys that like to talk and talk, but do nothing about it to test their ideas, and just keep repeating the same old sh!t.
2004 to 2017. And not a single TK replication, that works. So, talk away, by all means. Until you all get bored of it, as well.
 

How would you know what we are building? Some people might take another routes to get there. I am not going to solder random circuits together to see what color smoke I get out. Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan devices all work the same way. This forum is supposed to be a place where you can post your ideas and ask questions and not a place where everybody does it like it has been done for 13 years

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Offline AlienGrey

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« Reply #17739 on: August 15, 2017, 06:57:16 PM »
How would you know what we are building? Some people might take another routes to get there. I am not going to solder random circuits together to see what color smoke I get out. Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan devices all work the same way. This forum is supposed to be a place where you can post your ideas and ask questions and not a place where everybody does it like it has been done for 13 years
Yes a good observation ;) your right, and they all work much the same way. Depending on where you live of course might change every thing. do I use tires or tram lines here or cart wheels ect?

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« Reply #17740 on: August 15, 2017, 07:11:51 PM »
How would you know what we are building? Some people might take another routes to get there. I am not going to solder random circuits together to see what color smoke I get out. Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan devices all work the same way. This forum is supposed to be a place where you can post your ideas and ask questions and not a place where everybody does it like it has been done for 13 years

I think it doesn't hurt for people try to replicate the circuit diagrams that people have posted, someone
might get lucky, but yes, I fully agree that there are other approaches that can be taken as well
that may prove very useful. The biggest stumbling block of just building the circuits and hoping for
the best is you don't know how to adjust and tune things because you don't know what you are aiming for. 
That is not a small problem. :)

This is why I take the approach of running basic experiments to see what could make it tick. Once this is
understood,  then you can build a complete circuit and adjust because you know exactly what you are aiming for. ;)



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« Reply #17741 on: August 15, 2017, 07:42:02 PM »
There is nothing wrong with replicating schematics. That is the only way to determine, if the schematic works. What I'm saying that it is pretty arrogant to say we are not going to build these devices ever, because we are not copying the schematics.

My personal opinion is, that first you have to understand the principle and then you can build it. But this is only my opinion. I do think I understand the principle and I am going to build a device. If it fails I will tell you, so you can save time and not do it. If it works you will know, because I suddenly stop posting and the US goes and invades Venezuela.

Everything in Nature is simple and beautiful and so is this. If the Nature allows this to happen, you don't need rocket engineers to do it. You can probably do it with sound or other methods too.


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« Reply #17742 on: August 15, 2017, 08:06:21 PM »
There is nothing wrong with replicating schematics. That is the only way to determine, if the schematic works. What I'm saying that it is pretty arrogant to say we are not going to build these devices ever, because we are not copying the schematics.

My personal opinion is, that first you have to understand the principle and then you can build it. But this is only my opinion. I do think I understand the principle and I am going to build a device. If it fails I will tell you, so you can save time and not do it. If it works you will know, because I suddenly stop posting and the US goes and invades Venezuela.

Everything in Nature is simple and beautiful and so is this. If the Nature allows this to happen, you don't need rocket engineers to do it. You can probably do it with sound or other methods too.
Good then i wish you all the luck, ps make sure you have a dam good scope and a signal gen that goes up to at least 2 or 3 Mhz maybe 5mhz with a frequency read out on the scope a Rigal DS1054 or later it does loads more that's of good use or similar.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17743 on: August 16, 2017, 07:45:53 AM »
The pdf you attached indicates that all those "patents" are A1 or A2 status. This means that they are applications, not granted patents. Do you have a list of actual granted patents that have been awarded to this person?

Also, the muon has a lifetime of about 2.2 microseconds. While about 10,000 muons per square meter arrive at the earth's surface every minute, mostly produced by cosmic rays interacting with atmospheric gas molecules, a simple calculation indicates that even this many will not provide enough energy to do what is shown in the video even if they are all captured. Furthermore they travel very fast and are very penetrating, able to penetrate tens of meters of solid rock before interacting with matter enough to slow down or be attenuated. So how does he think he's capturing muons there on his tabletop?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon

All is explained in the patent:

"A magnet has "closed" and "open" field lines, which form an angle between them tending to zero. Likewise the magnetic field from
the primary coil of the muonic generator according to the invention also has both types of magnetic lines. Thus the "open" field lines propagate to high altitudes including the region of the formation of muons, at an altitude of 10 kilometers, forming a magnetic funnel whose top "opening" can have a radius of dozens of kilometers. It is these lines that will collimate atmospheric muons into the coil of the generator of the present invention, whose diameter is for example only a few centimeters.

Thus, the magnetic field of the coil acts as a muon drain, which is oscillating in time. This frequency of
oscillation of the field has a wavelength b that is a fraction multiple of the Compton wavelength of the muon c.
(b= n·c = n · 5, 88 x 10- 23 m) so that the energy of the magnetic field used in the captation process is reduced as much as possible and is selective of muons only."

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« Reply #17744 on: August 16, 2017, 08:45:39 AM »
Hi Hoppy

The question I'm sure you have thought of is how did Tariel came up with
this device why not someone in the UK,USA,in the rest of Europe
or other parts of the world.What does Georgia have that the other places
don't have.We know that Tariel is a tinker,hes very smart,not an electronics person
he will do things a normal electronics person will not do,hes a very tricky
person,has no trouble twisting the truth.I pondered this question for a long time until the 2012 device
came along.It turns out the green Russian transformer is unique,to the soviet states,was made from
1970's to late 1980's,a lot were sold for surplus.Almost all transformers were constructed
like this.This type would be one Tariel could get easily,you would never see this in the
USA or Europe.I believe its part of the  operation of hes devices,its the part,he winds
himself,the unknown part.This type of transformer could be though of as two almost toroids back to back.
The coils are dipped in a resin green substance,fairly easy to take apart.I located a company in the USA
that sells the same type of cores.Remember when the 2012 device was made Tariel was very sick,he didn't wind
the main device but used a transformer from a Russian IBM clone power supply.Normally he hides
 the transformer,the transformer is run in a certain way this causes heat,this is why he didn't want
IR imaging used,it would point to the transformer.There is a circuit that the transformer in the 2012
device uses,there are two parts that generate current one is used to power the load,the other is used to create
the current needed to create the condition,the feed back to loop the device.Its very hard to believe this part,its speculation on my
part,its a guess based on what I see.A coil is in all of hes devices and are a main part of the device.
The current is generated in the coil,how the coil is wound plays no part in its operation,the current
is not produced by an induction mechanism,its the length that's important.There exist for speculation
purposes an unknown energy source not recognized as an energy source,the transformer,when connect correctly
interacts with the unknown energy source,producing waves they are not ordinary waves,but have the ability
to create a push,different from a photon.the energy for the waves comes from the unknown energy source,The cross section is very small,
when they pass thru the wire coil,  they strike
electrons,this gives the electrons a push,it transfers the energy of the wave to the electron,as the waves travel thru the wire they hit more electrons,the result is an increase in the current not the voltage.
In the 2012 device there was a funny looking coil with  enamel insulated wire ,its purpose is to amplify the current to help power
the device .The tpu uses a similar application the difference
is the toroid is pulsed at a low frequency,the coil it uses is a bifular coil,most of the energy is lost as heat in the
primary winding,the secondary of the bifular coil is connected to a rectifier and capacitor to transfer the energy of the pulses
to the load.The bifular coil gets very hot quickly.The current is generated the same,any way that's my speculation.
This is why its very hard to figure out the Kapanadze device,because your dealing with
unknown principles and an unknown energy source.If you approach it using conventional electronics you would believe its likely a fake.
If you use this model of waves generated,then passing thru a coil
then you,can see that the 2004 device has a simple wave generator in the can,the coil,creates the current.
In one device he creates the waves in a box, Its set up as 3 phase,then uses 3 coils one for each phase
to amplify the current.The coils are not special but simple rolls of wire.
The first step is get a theory of some sort and see if it fits.Everybody suspects that the device is very simple
which is why Tariel guards the information closely,however everybody wants it to be Tesla related
and fall under conventional electronics,that's a big mistake.
I'm interested in the Nelson Rocha
device not sure if its real or fake,however the one using the toroid could be real,it operates
at 5k Hz and is started by a 9 volt battery it seems to fit my speculation and there should be enough clues
for replication.Nelson is also a tricky guy not sure of hes intent.A few of hes devices appear to be overunity
 they look fairly complete,why is the company he works for not going into production,a very strange thing,very fishy.
If you apply this wave generator,connected to coil generated current theory to the 2012 device.The transformer can not source
the high current needed by the heater load,2kw.The waves exit the terminal that connects to the large coil that connects to the heater load.The waves do not need a thick wire to travel thru it
a very thin wire would work fine,as the waves inter the large coil
they begin to strike electrons,the current builds up along the wire
coil,until it reaches the heater.

 

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