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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7986782 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17475 on: July 06, 2017, 10:47:25 AM »
 
   I find it amazing that the secret can be kept up for as long as it has, from such a simple device made out of junk parts. And that we still don't know who actually built that device up, along with all of Tariel's other much more complicated devices. I'm still betting that it was not TK, nor his son. But, it would be good to know where the idea comes from, in any case.

Its more plausible that there is no secret to be kept, thus no real interest from investors that have looked at his devices closely and threfore no exciting revelation of an exotic source of free energy to power the devices after all this time. Its clear to me, as others who have commented in past forum posts, that as the debunking video suggests, the lamp load is way, way lower than that claimed and could have been battery powered for the short time slots in the demo videos. I'm not sure in the case of the green box device, whether the primary power source(s) were internal or external, or perhaps a combination of both. The later transparent box device appears to me to be a more elaborate approach / develpment to conventional powering, probably from both an internal and external source.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17475 on: July 06, 2017, 10:47:25 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17476 on: July 06, 2017, 02:11:30 PM »
This is Tesla method of conversion. For me the missing part is only why there is a diode bridge on low voltage side and what is used for, and if there is ferrite rings inside or no and few more small details. It works 100% I'm sure

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17477 on: July 06, 2017, 02:38:36 PM »
   Well, perhaps the Brazilian guy that bought that particular green box device should be the one to ask how well those hidden batteries have worked out. As it looks like they still are working quite well after all these years, from what can be seen on his video.
   Maybe T-1000 can let us know if there is anything new or interesting to be concerned about.

I would rather concentrate on how to amplify power gained from the air electricity instead of going countless rounds when looking for hidden batteries...
At the moment I do not see other possible source of energy to tap into in those devices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_electricity

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17478 on: July 06, 2017, 02:53:38 PM »
This is Tesla method of conversion. For me the missing part is only why there is a diode bridge on low voltage side and what is used for, and if there is ferrite rings inside or no and few more small details. It works 100% I'm sure
this might help Forest and others'.

  Look Hoppy I don't think they use hidden battery's can I suggest you sling all your junk in the bin but salvage your TL 494 driver and output stage next get some decent ferrite toroids 50 to 70mm in Dia pick some with high permeability and bifilar wind them with 8 +8 turns of something like 18 to 12 swg copper wire Oh and insulate the toroid with good quality tape first then connect a signal generator and a tuning pulse charging cap in series with the cap and sig gen and look on your scope to find where the signal peaks changing the cap as necessary start with a low value and it will charge in blocks it needs to be between 17khz and 26khz 29 and above is far too high, when you have worked out the series cap connect the toroid to the push-pull driver and again find the new peak again it should peak around 17 to 26 khz then connect up the 4 turn winding and cap to the grenade inductor and sample the grenade secondary to see if you can find the peak in the grenade if it's different something isn't in tune and your windings are not right but if the grenade response is flat and your toroid still peeks your in business with that part. If it gives a crazy wave as if it's into Fero resonance even better.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17479 on: July 06, 2017, 03:13:57 PM »
I would rather concentrate on how to amplify power gained from the air electricity instead of going countless rounds when looking for hidden batteries...
At the moment I do not see other possible source of energy to tap into in those devices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_electricity

Its tedious and boring to go countless rounds on any particular modus of operation theory. However, when I see videos that make me laugh, looking so simple to fake, like Kapanadze's box videos, I ask myself the question, why he made no effort to let his investors at least quickly peek in side the various boxes and PSU enclosures to satisfy them that there were no hidden battery packs. I see little point attempting to replicate a claimed scrap yard built self-running, energy amplifying device, that displays such a visual and documented lack of authenticity. If these Kapa devices have any true energy amplification properties, then let the market place eventually reveal them.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17480 on: July 06, 2017, 03:28:41 PM »
this might help Forest and others'.

  Look Hoppy I don't think they use hidden battery's can I suggest you sling all your junk in the bin but salvage your TL 494 driver and output stage next get some decent ferrite toroids 50 to 70mm in Dia pick some with high permeability and bifilar wind them with 8 +8 turns of something like 18 to 12 swg copper wire Oh and insulate the toroid with good quality tape first then connect a signal generator and a tuning pulse charging cap in series with the cap and sig gen and look on your scope to find where the signal peaks changing the cap as necessary start with a low value and it will charge in blocks it needs to be between 17khz and 26khz 29 and above is far too high, when you have worked out the series cap connect the toroid to the push-pull driver and again find the new peak again it should peak around 17 to 26 khz then connect up the 4 turn winding and cap to the grenade inductor and sample the grenade secondary to see if you can find the peak in the grenade if it's different something isn't in tune and your windings are not right but if the grenade response is flat and your toroid still peeks your in business with that part. If it gives a crazy wave as if it's into Fero resonance even better.

AG

Hi Alien,

A sketch of your setup and staged instrumentation connections would be useful.

Thanks

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17481 on: July 06, 2017, 04:19:34 PM »
  AG:
  The only way to convince someone of what you think would work is to SHOW it doing so, yourself. As well as any positive results.
Otherwise it's all just talk, and no action. There are reasons why it has not worked, so far, for those using a signal generator to find the sweet spot(s).

   The problem with the method that you describe is, that it has not worked for those that have taken the time to do so. Like with Itsu, as the actual sweet spot is not where the signal generator finds it, once the actual device is all set up. Not to mention what connecting the ground line does to the tuned frequencies.
   The other problem is that once all is said and done, and the device is tuned according to what you think is right, the device still won't self run. Even though there can be some positive results (like in Geo's case), with the sync between the Kacher and the induction circuits. It is not enough to allow for a self runner. As Geo and others have found.

  In any case, it's best prove this for yourself, first, before recommending it to others, and to show your results in a video.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17482 on: July 06, 2017, 04:28:53 PM »
   The other problem is that once all is said and done, and the device is tuned according to what you think is right, the device still won't self run. Even though there can be some positive results (like in Geo's case), with the sync between the Kacher and the induction circuits. It is not enough to allow for a self runner. As Geo and others have found.

True. When people think they assemble circuit and the rest of magic will be done for them nothing of that happen in the end. Then back to square one about the extra energy from the environment which should flowing in the device. That part should be answered even before trying to build such device...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17483 on: July 06, 2017, 05:07:05 PM »
   Here's the video of guy from Brazil, showing some interesting things about the TK device that he purchased. Below.
 Although IF it were a 5KW device, it would light the whole room, and could not even be looked at. So, it's possibly only a 1KW self runner, or so.
  If one of us had bought it, the secret would be known. OR, maybe not...
 
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSNlf0WmG3g

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« Reply #17484 on: July 06, 2017, 05:24:22 PM »
    T:
   The problem has been that none of us are willing to actually go and see TK, Stalker, Adrian, Poma, etz...  And give them some money, enough to have them show the device working , and/or purchase it, like the Brazilian guy has done. He can now do what he wants with it, including selling it to the China, or anyone else, and make a few million dollars from it. Like TK could have done,  IF it really works as shown.  Makes me wonder... why TK, Akula, Poma and others haven't already secretly done so.
Perhaps they have done so. I'm sure the big power companies would purchase it in a blink of an eye,  if only to keep it secret.
 

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« Reply #17485 on: July 06, 2017, 05:31:01 PM »
    T:
   The problem has been that none of us are willing to actually go and see TK, Stalker, Adrian, Poma, etz...  And give them some money, enough to have them show the device working , and/or purchase it, like the Brazilian guy has done.
Not entirely true, some attempts was made and at least for 1 guy the results may see the light over year.. Can't say much on details at the moment but at least the group in UK do not sit waiting for miracle to happen by itself.. ;)

Cheers!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17486 on: July 06, 2017, 06:12:59 PM »
   Here's the video of guy from Brazil, showing some interesting things about the TK device that he purchased. Below.
 Although IF it were a 5KW device, it would light the whole room, and could not even be looked at. So, it's possibly only a 1KW self runner, or so.
  If one of us had bought it, the secret would be known. OR, maybe not...
 
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSNlf0WmG3g

Meticulous definition: taking or showing extreme care about minute details; precise; thorough: a meticulous craftsman; meticulous personal appearance.

When person from Brazil pays attention to form someone pays him for his work.!!!! Question only here is WHY?
All all the devices presented  looks like just assembled , no dings no scratches no dents.
Work in Brazil  is pretty inexpensive , however  making copy of TK devices, and mimicking its action is time consuming and involves quite nice mechanical shop.
Mechanics, PAINTERS, WELDERS,lathe, milling machine and bender operators -  are usually NOT  ELECTRONICALLY SAVVY  or hardware of  "computer literate".

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Reasoning is associated with thinking, cognition, and intellect. Reasoning may be subdivided into forms of logical reasoning (forms associated with the strict sense): deductive reasoning, inductive reasoning, abductive reasoning; and other modes of reasoning considered more informal, such as intuitive reasoning and verbal reasoning. Along these lines, a distinction is often drawn between discursive reason, reason proper, and intuitive reason,[3] in which the reasoning process—however valid—tends toward the personal and the opaque. Although in many social and political settings logical and intuitive modes of reason may clash, in other contexts intuition and formal reason are seen as complementary, rather than adversarial as, for example, in mathematics, where intuition is often a necessary building block in the creative process of achieving the hardest form of reason, a formal proof.






Many of you disengage your attention when i start to talk about mechanisms of motivation. Wrong. .... More about reasoning it in my new video
exactly here: https://youtu.be/yAu297FCjcY?t=709


However to see this video from very  start of it  click here:
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17487 on: July 06, 2017, 09:16:47 PM »
   "Many of you disengage your attention when i start to talk about mechanisms of motivation. Wrong. .... More about reasoning it in my new video"
    end quote.

   Yes, that's true. Some of us do "disengage", as you mentioned, especially when what you are talking about has little or nothing to do with what this thread is all about.  Which is the non-mechanical, solid state devices, such as the Akula/Ruslan, and Dally devices.

   It would be more appropriate and "motivational" if you were to keep on track. There are other threads with lot of examples for the discussion of mechanical, clunky, and noisy free energy devices. Which was the reason I left the boring Kapanadze thread in the first place. As that was what the discussions there on the Kapanadze thread had turned to, some years ago.
   
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17488 on: July 06, 2017, 09:29:43 PM »
Not entirely true, some attempts was made and at least for 1 guy the results may see the light over year.. Can't say much on details at the moment but at least the group in UK do not sit waiting for miracle to happen by itself.. ;)

Cheers!


   And you are referring to "someone" from this thread? Or, someone or group that we don't even know? Or may never hear from.
Of course there have been many people going to see the Kapanadze demonstations, yet, that has not helped us in any real and positive way, here. Not one person has made and shown a true working replication of a actual TK device, and got it self running, as yet.  At least as far as I am aware of.

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« Reply #17489 on: July 06, 2017, 10:25:22 PM »
There are other threads with lot of examples for the discussion of mechanical, clunky, and noisy free energy devices. 
In my video I was pointing at Tariel Kapanadze who used motors and than replaced their action with equivalently capable electronics.  Also EBM and Lutec have been to loud to be silenced without consequences. By that if TK told me that he wants to  employ electronic instead of motor in its frequency and phase conversion I could not ignore it.
We have common point between clunky noisy devices and TK.
I also pointed at  a fact that ground wire or LC reactive ground is necessarily forTK  devices operation  . So Pakistani  has possibly connected ground wire  when changing light fixture. ( screen shot with explanation at end portion of my video )
I also discussed it today with T-1000

For me there is clear path between :
1.both motors and motors in                                         Kapanadze devices by means of application and their internal architecture.
2.motors of some "dual motor" videos and   motors in  Kapanadze devices by means of application and their internal architecture.
3.motors of some "dual motor" videos and  action of electronics mimicking tasks previously handled by motors  in Kapanadze devices



For your satisfaction  my friend I'm here on this forum very seldom now . However I like you very much  and wish you the best
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