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Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17280 on: June 02, 2017, 10:58:32 PM »
   Hoppy:
   And your scepticisms have been repeated many times as well. Perhaps you can suggest a way that these things CAN be proven. Or do you not even trust witnesses going and seeing the devices and testing them, either?
What can you suggest? Are you willing to go and see for yourself? Would that do, or not.
   There is no use repeating things for so many posts and no one actually doing anything about it. Boring...
   The big picture is that we get nowhere by continuing to repeat these same things.
   How about a little more than just that. That's all I'm suggesting. We've already lost most of our old timers, by no results and just more and more talk. Even apecore is hardly posting now. And he is really working at this.

  Stivep has at least gone to see the main man, and is now a witness to the true workings of the kapanadze device, as was Tiger to the Akula's device. And I do have to trust some one, other than myself.  Does any one trust me...No?
Believe it or not, that's your choice. Or, perhaps we need more theories, instead.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17281 on: June 02, 2017, 11:15:41 PM »
Some videos made today  https://yadi.sk/d/X2QGdb_43Jmy4L
Hope that will be useful for somebody  8)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17282 on: June 03, 2017, 12:31:18 AM »
   Zalmoxis:
   Thanks for the pictures and the video links.
   Can you tell us if this device is supposed to be self running, or not?
   Please check your previous post, I've made a new comment there.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17283 on: June 03, 2017, 02:27:48 AM »
    Zalmoxis:
    His frequency is running at around 8.484KHz on his push pull, as it's running in the audible ranges, and can be detected on a  spectrum analyzer.
   Can this frequency I've given be verified or compared by watching the videos of his scope shots?

He has multiple videos using different frequencies. On the videos with the pink coil i remember he said he is using some 8Khz .. and 16Khz .
Dont analyze the pushpull frequency by the yoke audio frequency. There are multiple factors like audio compression, and the mechanical vibration sound could be different than the actual frequency used.
From all his videos he is using 8khz 16Khz .. but on some diagrams like his latest one you can see 3,34Mhz / 23.5Khz.
With 19meter inductor and 340nF it "resonates" at 16,7-16,9 KHz, tested!
WIth 340nF and 9.5meter is around 23-25Khz. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17284 on: June 03, 2017, 02:58:14 AM »
   Zalmoxis:
   Thanks for the pictures and the video links.
   Can you tell us if this device is supposed to be self running, or not?
   Please check your previous post, I've made a new comment there.

If you put 100Watt in and you get out 110Watt then it can be a self runner!
From all my tests since november i was not able to get more out than in.
What type thickness / length of ground wire are you using, and what kind of earthing ?
The only video it was a self runner was with the ground wire connected and some 8-10Bulbs lit. The video was shot in his lab... not in the field like Ruslan.
Also he has another video using a kasher instead of tesla and as a load has a high power heater element (washing machine type). From his scope images you can see when he shorts the gate of transistor with ground also the output voltage with load attached DROPS!
All this kind of devices are similar with the grenate/inductor and some tesla/kasher.
Why this effect happens i don't know. When this effect happens .. we have to find it out!
There is a russian guy Sergey Stalker, i have talked with him, he said he was able to self run and 200watt load max, he did not used any hidden aluminium coil. I did not see the device .. just his words.
For 19 meter inductor and 8Khz do you have any clue on the series capacitor value to be used? 500-600nF
I can bet that this is not rocket science ... is something very simple .. but that key is unknown for us.
Does anyone of you have access to a spectrum analyzer to test a grenate of 37.5 or 38m the "self resonance" ?
Probably i will have access next week to some University lab to test it .. (i'm too old for school  ;D )
One ideea is like .. if it resonates at 8Mhz .. we should hit with tesla at 2Mhz (1/4) and with 20Khz with push pull + caps .. just an ideea

I tried to "measure" the grenate. Device OFF, shorted grenate and put a small ferrite ring with 300uH inductance and connected it to the scope.
On the second scope image i have connected the earthing wire (15m  16mm^2) and ..

Also all these peaks repeated somewhere around 140-300Khz interval i don't remind it precisely!!
I have did the same test in the city using the heating pipes as a ground and some pattern appeared on the scope every 72-74Khz .. so that "frequency" changed with an "official" Earthing. I can't make any link between these numbers ..

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17285 on: June 03, 2017, 05:04:59 AM »
   Zalmoxis:
   Thank your for your honest reply. As without honesty, what do we have? What can we trust? Who can we trust?  Not much...
And, I choose to trust, first, and hope that I can be trusted, in my test results and replies, as well.
   
    I am impressed by your comments. Looks like you can understand both English as well as Russian. That's great, as I can't, only English and Spanish. Although I can understand some things in Russian, but not enough to fully grasp the whole meaning.
At least the Russian videos can be viewed, while trying to understanding at least what I can see.
   
   I am using the 37.5 meter grenade output coil, 18.75m inductor coil, two thick 37.5m aluminum ground lines going down into my water well.
   The series LC circuit capacitor is a single 0.47uf WIMA cap 1000v, and the parallel resonant capacitor is a single 0.1uf WIMA cap, I think it's also 1000v. That is what the TopRuslan schematic calls for.
  My inductor coil circuit is not using the jumper wire connected to the 28t yoke coil/grenade output coil and full bridge rectifier circuit, as is shown in some diagrams, any longer. But I also check to see if it makes any positive difference at times, anyway.
  My running frequencies are unknown at this time, as I've not paid any attention to them lately, and just tune for the best output and sync between my yoke/grenade induction circuits, and my Kacher circuit. I do look at the shape and quality of the wave forms, instead. And try to get them as clean as possible. Nor am I trying to use and tune to any known or fixed frequencies.
   I am currently using the TL494 circuit, and TC4420 fet drivers, similar to what Stalkers newest circuit is using. Although I combine 3 different schematics into one single PCB board from Ruslan, Stalker, and Pinoytech for the push-pull driver.
  My Kacher is the TopRuslan 7 type Kacher circuit, as I am trying to keep everything as simple as possible for now, while trying to obtain the proper sync between the circuits, at least until the device self runs. Further improvements will be done, afterward.

   I will post a video soon, but, I'm still waiting for a couple of components which I've ordered but have not received yet. So, I'm now using just a single 12v, 7Ah battery, as my input source, until I get some new 12v, and 15v voltage regulators to connect to my normal 24v, 10A input source.
  I hope this helps to understand my device, as I mentioned, new videos will be forthcoming soon.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17286 on: June 03, 2017, 11:40:00 AM »
   Hoppy:
   And your scepticisms have been repeated many times as well. Perhaps you can suggest a way that these things CAN be proven. Or do you not even trust witnesses going and seeing the devices and testing them, either?
What can you suggest? Are you willing to go and see for yourself? Would that do, or not.
 

Nick,

Tinsel has repeated many times what is required to get proper technical evaluation of a claimed self running device. If I were to go see for myself, I would almost certainly not be given the opportunity to properly examine a device, any more than Wesley or a.King21's team was with Kapa's devices. Any prior agreement in this respect would likely be worthless once I was on foreign territory. OK, handing over a nice big pre wedge might help but I'm not an investor, nor wish to be. So, the bottom line is until and if we ever see a self-running device that is commercially available, it all amounts to personal belief.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17287 on: June 03, 2017, 01:34:21 PM »
Good day all,

Nickz, since you've bin struggling with the push pull, as i had spend also simular hours and days with many frustation.....
But al this will bring good things at the end.

At this moment and i made a vid about it i'm using the lossless clamp as verpies once posted it.
The only remark i have on that schematic (maybe i have a wrong version) is that the clamp wires have to be connected reversed.
Power supply side (24V) goes to the diodes/caps and the other side goes to ground.

So with this config, there is no need of snubbers, big cooling radiators or fan's.
As you can see i m powering 3 x 100W bulbs, voltage accross my bulbs stays over 100V drawing 5-6Atotally and no heating problems.
Also important what also is being mentioned several time is the STAR ground point, this really helps to drain the HF etc.


https://youtu.be/7tO3iWucwSE

I hope it will bring you some progress.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17288 on: June 03, 2017, 02:45:39 PM »
Good day all,

Nickz, since you've bin struggling with the push pull, as i had spend also simular hours and days with many frustation.....
But al this will bring good things at the end.

At this moment and i made a vid about it i'm using the lossless clamp as verpies once posted it.
The only remark i have on that schematic (maybe i have a wrong version) is that the clamp wires have to be connected reversed.
Power supply side (24V) goes to the diodes/caps and the other side goes to ground.

So with this config, there is no need of snubbers, big cooling radiators or fan's.
As you can see i m powering 3 x 100W bulbs, voltage accross my bulbs stays over 100V drawing 5-6Atotally and no heating problems.
Also important what also is being mentioned several time is the STAR ground point, this really helps to drain the HF etc.


https://youtu.be/7tO3iWucwSE

I hope it will bring you some progress.
All you need do is bifilar wind the yoke primary, I'm not so sure as you actually need a yoke as such testing I have found a decent toroid core will work just as well but expensive. To limit overshoots just limit them with 2 fast diodes, HV zener and feed back into the supply feed.

Another point of interest is the TL494 I have seen much argument about 'DEADTIME CONTROL'  by including this your wasting, time space, and resorces, it's just a duel control of the pulse width and pointless!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17289 on: June 03, 2017, 05:44:05 PM »

Hi Ape,

nice setup you have, but still some remarks if you don't mind.

You mention to have to connect the clamp wires reversed and that you might have the wrong schematic.
I doubt there are wrong versions around, so perhaps you can show which diagram you have followed.
The version i know of and which i have successfully followed was shown here:

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1526.msg33035#msg33035    (use firefox to chrome to show the diagrams).

Another remark is about the used big electrolytic capacitors (i understand you use them as C3 and C4 in the above linked diagram)
They are not good performers at high frequencies, so they should be paralleled by some film like capacitors (i use 10nF silver mica caps)

Finally, the long wires used in your setup.
Both for going to the yoke and also between the MOSFET drivers and MOSFETs.
The extra wiring builds up stray capacitance and inductance causing unwanted oscillations etc.
Keep them as short as possible.
I personnaly fix the drivers to the MOSFET leads by soldering the drivers ground leads directly onto the MOSFET source lead.
Good luck with you experiments.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17290 on: June 03, 2017, 06:23:55 PM »
   apecore:
   Thank you for posting your video, and the info on Verpie's yoke wiring system. It seems to work well to control the heating of the fets, and allow you to use full duty cycle, without overheating anything. It would also be good to see the difference when adding the Kacher or controllable Tesla circuit that you've made, as compared to when it's not on at the same time as the induction circuit.
   You are running your 1 to 3 100w bulbs using 24v, and 6A, or about 144w. To partially light the bulbs. Although it's hard to judge their brightness on the video. 
   I hope that you can follow it all up with what happens when you connect a feed back path to allow self running, when you can do so. Seams like you are ready for that determining factor now.

   Although I've been doing considerable testing to tone down the heating of the fets, they are still getting too hot after a while.
 I will mount both fets on a bigger motherboard heat-sink, once I can get some drill bits and tap. Although the fets are not getting as hot as they were before, but, not cool enough to allow them to run non-stop, either.

   AG:  I tend to agree that the separate dead time controls may not be essential for this application. As there already exists the duty cycle controls. Nor do I see Stalker using the separate dead time controller circuit. So, possibly the single duty cycle controls will suffice.

   Zalmoxis:  It may not take 110w output using 100w input to be able self run. As the bulbs don't have to be at the same lumin levels, as compared to grid lit bulbs. The device just needs to self run, once disconnected from it's grid input source. Even if it only lights a single bulb partially lit, at first.
   T-1000 had previously suggested just trying to get the device to self run, without any load on, then gradually add more load.
   
« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 01:25:19 AM by NickZ »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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« Reply #17291 on: June 03, 2017, 06:34:25 PM »
If you put 100Watt in and you get out 110Watt then it can be a self runner!
From all my tests since november i was not able to get more out than in.
What type thickness / length of ground wire are you using, and what kind of earthing ?
The only video it was a self runner was with the ground wire connected and some 8-10Bulbs lit. The video was shot in his lab... not in the field like Ruslan.
Also he has another video using a kasher instead of tesla and as a load has a high power heater element (washing machine type). From his scope images you can see when he shorts the gate of transistor with ground also the output voltage with load attached DROPS!
All this kind of devices are similar with the grenate/inductor and some tesla/kasher.
Why this effect happens i don't know. When this effect happens .. we have to find it out!
There is a russian guy Sergey Stalker, i have talked with him, he said he was able to self run and 200watt load max, he did not used any hidden aluminium coil. I did not see the device .. just his words.
For 19 meter inductor and 8Khz do you have any clue on the series capacitor value to be used? 500-600nF
I can bet that this is not rocket science ... is something very simple .. but that key is unknown for us.
Does anyone of you have access to a spectrum analyzer to test a grenate of 37.5 or 38m the "self resonance" ?
Probably i will have access next week to some University lab to test it .. (i'm too old for school  ;D )
One ideea is like .. if it resonates at 8Mhz .. we should hit with tesla at 2Mhz (1/4) and with 20Khz with push pull + caps .. just an ideea

I tried to "measure" the grenate. Device OFF, shorted grenate and put a small ferrite ring with 300uH inductance and connected it to the scope.
On the second scope image i have connected the earthing wire (15m  16mm^2) and ..

Also all these peaks repeated somewhere around 140-300Khz interval i don't remind it precisely!!
I have did the same test in the city using the heating pipes as a ground and some pattern appeared on the scope every 72-74Khz .. so that "frequency" changed with an "official" Earthing. I can't make any link between these numbers ..


Hi zalmoxis,

the grenade self resonance was show many times before in this thread and differs from each build.

Here a 0 - 15Mhz spectrum of my (38m) grenade showing severall selfresonance frequencies:


Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17292 on: June 03, 2017, 07:24:14 PM »

the grenade self-resonance were shown many times before in this thread and differs from each build.
Here a 0 - 15Mhz spectrum of my (38m) grenade showing several self-resonance frequencies:


Itsu

Itsu
that's an interesting graph, how did you get it ?  I ask as I have been playing with my Grenade, also a 38 Meter (Storker Design) and it has no response like your graph 'at all' ;) it peaks at about 17.88Khz and that's it it's a very narrow band indeed, it's possible to move it up and down a bit if i alter the capacitor  but the 494 has got to supply the initial frequency of reference.

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« Reply #17293 on: June 03, 2017, 09:06:31 PM »

Ag,

this what my Spectrum Analyzer (SA) with Tracking Generator (TG) shows.
The TG sweeps a range from (in this case) 9KHz to 15MHz with as steady signal and the SA shows the response from the coil under test (my Grenade).

The dips are the selfresonance points.
I have the inductor installed on the grenade, but it is left "open".

It looks similar as my earlier grenade resonance tests using a FG and scope, look back in this thread


Itsu 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17294 on: June 03, 2017, 09:26:07 PM »
Good day all:

Well, I posted my question and then Itsu answered it before I made the post.......

so Itsu, the remaining question is,  seeing that you used the tracking gen. to get the Resonant frequency for your Grenade configuration:  If you *pulse* the Grenade with *white_noise* or some similar broad spectrum signal, do you get peaks corresponding to the same tracking generator *dips*?

Thanks in advance,

take care, peace
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« Last Edit: June 04, 2017, 12:45:31 AM by lost_bro »

 

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