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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7752728 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17115 on: April 15, 2017, 02:57:12 PM »
   Verpies:
   What do you mean "that's all I have".  However, that's not all that I have. I still have a problem with the connections, as the I don't have a normal scope signal if I only connect the scope to ONE channel of the two #9 and #10 pins, and ground. I burnt up two more fets last night while looking into the problem, which is what is making them overheat in seconds. I'm sure the problem is  something simple, but I haven't found it yet.
  Once I get this sorted out it should work as expected.
   Maybe you can help me to locate this problem. The TL circuit and drivers work as I had shown on the video, ONLY, if I place BOTH scope probes on the 9 and 10 pins, and ground. On just one channel, it won't work. Yet with only one fet on, the TL circuits it still works, like Hoppy style.
This may have something to do with the ground connection on the TL board or driver section. I'll keep looking into it.
   Thanks for your help.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17115 on: April 15, 2017, 02:57:12 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17116 on: April 15, 2017, 03:18:50 PM »
If such it would be sold as fresh cookies soon.
I'm skeptical.
Again .. every commercial activity needs to HAVE 100% PROVEN PERFORMANCE AND 0% OF DOUBT
Every non commercial approach can have a lot of mistakes and no one will complain.,
and only the magician knows his own tricks to make money on it.
that is general rule governing this field.

Wesley
Oh I don't know! Did you know Henry ford supplied Hitler with ALL his car engines in the last war ?

The point is how does it stop the two devices registering energy use ? I has to be a case of pushing the kid on the swing at just the right point when the 'thing' starts to fall, why don't you work on that ?

Regards AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17117 on: April 15, 2017, 03:34:26 PM »
  Stivep:
  This thread is not being benefited by your and others comments of unrelated topics.
  Please stay on the subject of THIS thread. Your long essays are getting pretty boring, also.
  This is not about how many people have been killed. Or how bad the Russian people or their leaders are.
As they are why we are here replicating their self running effects, which they are kind enough to offer to the public, at their risk, before they get stopped, like happened to Tariel.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17118 on: April 15, 2017, 03:49:22 PM »
  Stivep:
  This thread is not being benefited by your and others comments of unrelated topics.
  Please stay on the subject of THIS thread. Your long essays are getting pretty boring, also.
  This is not about how many people have been killed. Or how bad the Russian people or their leaders are.
As they are why we are here replicating their self-running effects, which they are kind enough to offer to the public, at their risk, before they get stopped, like what happened to Tariel.
Indeed, It is just adding unwanted clutter and we end up with a feeling of wanting to balance the bad energy with good, yes i agree !! we can't expose 'Evil' here or put the word to rights,  but we can help each other!

AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17119 on: April 15, 2017, 04:00:40 PM »
Has anyone got a PCB track 'copper' side layout of this card ? if so please either display it or send me a bit map of it, many thanks AG (note this card has no dead time ajust or pulse modulation control

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17120 on: April 15, 2017, 07:02:43 PM »
What do you mean "that's all I have".
That's your only adjustment for adjusting pulse spacing.

I don't have a normal scope signal if I only connect the scope to ONE channel of the two #9 and #10 pins, and ground.
The TL circuit and drivers work as I had shown on the video, ONLY, if I place BOTH scope probes on the 9 and 10 pins, and ground.
Maybe your scope is triggering from the other channel.

I burnt up two more fets last night while looking into the problem, which is what is making them overheat in seconds. I'm sure the problem is  something simple...
MOSFETs burn up because of excessive drain current or Drain-Source overvoltage or Gate-Source overvoltage.  To help you at a distance we need ID vs. VDS scope shots like we asked for.


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« Reply #17121 on: April 15, 2017, 10:54:46 PM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17122 on: April 16, 2017, 01:14:56 AM »
That's your only adjustment for adjusting pulse spacing.
Maybe your scope is triggering from the other channel.
Yes, if the scope shows the nice clean waveforms seen in the video when both probes are connected to 9 and 10, but doesn't show the corresponding single waveform when only one probe is connected... the scope is probably set to trigger on the disconnected probe's channel. Set the "INT" trigger switch to the correct channel in use, this will probably clear up that problem.
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MOSFETs burn up because of excessive drain current or Drain-Source overvoltage or Gate-Source overvoltage.  To help you at a distance we need ID vs. VDS scope shots like we asked for.
Also they can overheat and burn out from overheating due to spending too long in the high-resistance linear region, meaning it is not getting enough current and/or too low a gate voltage from the gate driver to fully turn on the mosfet. This usually takes a bit longer to burn them out though. I have tested IRFP260n mosfets and they still work even when hot enough to melt the solder connections, so this probably isn't the cause of Nick's burnouts, but it should be checked anyhow.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17123 on: April 16, 2017, 01:20:57 AM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

The clean waveforms you showed in the video, with dead time (duty cycle)  and frequency adjustment, indicate that the TL494 is working properly, or at least it is doing what you want, and it is outputting the correct signals to drive the Gate Driver chips.

So when you can make new scopeshots, please do two sets: One with the probes on the outputs of the Gate Driver chips, and one with the probes on the Drains of the mosfets. Both sets referenced to ground, that is, the mosfet Source connection. 

You might also try using IRF3205 mosfets since they have lower on-state resistance and require less gate charge to turn on.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17124 on: April 16, 2017, 01:22:49 AM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

Nickz,
I guess your fets get burned by to high Vds peaks....this was in my TL start-up situatiion the case.
I would advise you for the timebeing to use some bigger snubber caps.......20-30nf.
So the Vds will stay below the 240V
Use your scope to monitor the Vds...as Verpies mentioned.
You wil see what happens while tuning the D/C pot.

Greetings

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17125 on: April 16, 2017, 03:01:43 AM »
   NickZ , AlienGrey
 I agree I'll do my best.

Wesley

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17126 on: April 16, 2017, 05:36:03 AM »
   NickZ , AlienGrey
 I agree I'll do my best.

Wesley

  And I'll do my best to continue with this challenge.

  And thanks guys,  for your support.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17127 on: April 16, 2017, 05:54:01 AM »
Nickz,
I guess your fets get burned by to high Vds peaks....this was in my TL start-up situatiion the case.
I would advise you for the timebeing to use some bigger snubber caps.......20-30nf.
So the Vds will stay below the 240V
Use your scope to monitor the Vds...as Verpies mentioned.
You wil see what happens while tuning the D/C pot.

Greetings

   Apecore:
   Funny thing but I got shocked by the driver circuit before the fet died. But, like I mentioned, the TL494 should provide an output to the scope, disconnected from the drivers, but it will only work to produce the signal that I showed with the scope connected to BOTH channels. The TL circuit won't work with the scope on just one channel, unless I connect the other scope ground probe on the other channel's ground. But, in any case the FETs overheat big time, unless the duty cycle is turned way down low. Before I could test one channel or the other individually, but not now.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17128 on: April 16, 2017, 10:04:58 AM »
Hmmm... you checked to make sure the scope's trigger was set to the channel of the probe you are using, right? If so, then this might be due to a problem with the probe. Does it behave the same way with either probe? Have you checked continuity between the probe's ground clip and the BNC shield at the scope end?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17129 on: April 16, 2017, 03:50:53 PM »
   TK:
   It's not the scope, or the channel trigger settings at fault. I have tried to swap the probes, etz... same thing.
 The fets get hot very quickly. Apecore's fets don't get hot at all, using a similar TL circuit.
   Last night I found one more still use able IRFP260N mosfet, so now I have two fets working again, and I can show the scope shots that you requested, later today.  But, in any case there is practically no output at the bulb, or bulbs.  Similar to Itsu's last video, and results.
   Yesterday I worked 12 hours, at my normal job, and today it's going to be similar. So, I stayed up until 1am last night working on my circuits.
This has not been an easy fix, so far.  But, I'll get it going right. At least the duty cycle and frequency are working, to some degree, enough to continue testing the circuit.
 

 

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