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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8063403 times)

Offline verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17115 on: April 15, 2017, 07:02:43 PM »
What do you mean "that's all I have".
That's your only adjustment for adjusting pulse spacing.

I don't have a normal scope signal if I only connect the scope to ONE channel of the two #9 and #10 pins, and ground.
The TL circuit and drivers work as I had shown on the video, ONLY, if I place BOTH scope probes on the 9 and 10 pins, and ground.
Maybe your scope is triggering from the other channel.

I burnt up two more fets last night while looking into the problem, which is what is making them overheat in seconds. I'm sure the problem is  something simple...
MOSFETs burn up because of excessive drain current or Drain-Source overvoltage or Gate-Source overvoltage.  To help you at a distance we need ID vs. VDS scope shots like we asked for.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17115 on: April 15, 2017, 07:02:43 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17116 on: April 15, 2017, 10:54:46 PM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17117 on: April 16, 2017, 01:14:56 AM »
That's your only adjustment for adjusting pulse spacing.
Maybe your scope is triggering from the other channel.
Yes, if the scope shows the nice clean waveforms seen in the video when both probes are connected to 9 and 10, but doesn't show the corresponding single waveform when only one probe is connected... the scope is probably set to trigger on the disconnected probe's channel. Set the "INT" trigger switch to the correct channel in use, this will probably clear up that problem.
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MOSFETs burn up because of excessive drain current or Drain-Source overvoltage or Gate-Source overvoltage.  To help you at a distance we need ID vs. VDS scope shots like we asked for.
Also they can overheat and burn out from overheating due to spending too long in the high-resistance linear region, meaning it is not getting enough current and/or too low a gate voltage from the gate driver to fully turn on the mosfet. This usually takes a bit longer to burn them out though. I have tested IRFP260n mosfets and they still work even when hot enough to melt the solder connections, so this probably isn't the cause of Nick's burnouts, but it should be checked anyhow.

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« Reply #17117 on: April 16, 2017, 01:14:56 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17118 on: April 16, 2017, 01:20:57 AM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

The clean waveforms you showed in the video, with dead time (duty cycle)  and frequency adjustment, indicate that the TL494 is working properly, or at least it is doing what you want, and it is outputting the correct signals to drive the Gate Driver chips.

So when you can make new scopeshots, please do two sets: One with the probes on the outputs of the Gate Driver chips, and one with the probes on the Drains of the mosfets. Both sets referenced to ground, that is, the mosfet Source connection. 

You might also try using IRF3205 mosfets since they have lower on-state resistance and require less gate charge to turn on.

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« Reply #17119 on: April 16, 2017, 01:22:49 AM »
   OK,  we'll maybe I can take some scope shots next week when I get some more mosfets to burn.
I the meantime I'll try to find the problem.
I think that the problem is in the TL circuit itself, and not with the rest of these device or components.

Nickz,
I guess your fets get burned by to high Vds peaks....this was in my TL start-up situatiion the case.
I would advise you for the timebeing to use some bigger snubber caps.......20-30nf.
So the Vds will stay below the 240V
Use your scope to monitor the Vds...as Verpies mentioned.
You wil see what happens while tuning the D/C pot.

Greetings

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17119 on: April 16, 2017, 01:22:49 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17120 on: April 16, 2017, 03:01:43 AM »
   NickZ , AlienGrey
 I agree I'll do my best.

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« Reply #17121 on: April 16, 2017, 05:36:03 AM »
   NickZ , AlienGrey
 I agree I'll do my best.

Wesley

  And I'll do my best to continue with this challenge.

  And thanks guys,  for your support.

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« Reply #17121 on: April 16, 2017, 05:36:03 AM »
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17122 on: April 16, 2017, 05:54:01 AM »
Nickz,
I guess your fets get burned by to high Vds peaks....this was in my TL start-up situatiion the case.
I would advise you for the timebeing to use some bigger snubber caps.......20-30nf.
So the Vds will stay below the 240V
Use your scope to monitor the Vds...as Verpies mentioned.
You wil see what happens while tuning the D/C pot.

Greetings

   Apecore:
   Funny thing but I got shocked by the driver circuit before the fet died. But, like I mentioned, the TL494 should provide an output to the scope, disconnected from the drivers, but it will only work to produce the signal that I showed with the scope connected to BOTH channels. The TL circuit won't work with the scope on just one channel, unless I connect the other scope ground probe on the other channel's ground. But, in any case the FETs overheat big time, unless the duty cycle is turned way down low. Before I could test one channel or the other individually, but not now.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17123 on: April 16, 2017, 10:04:58 AM »
Hmmm... you checked to make sure the scope's trigger was set to the channel of the probe you are using, right? If so, then this might be due to a problem with the probe. Does it behave the same way with either probe? Have you checked continuity between the probe's ground clip and the BNC shield at the scope end?

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« Reply #17123 on: April 16, 2017, 10:04:58 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17124 on: April 16, 2017, 03:50:53 PM »
   TK:
   It's not the scope, or the channel trigger settings at fault. I have tried to swap the probes, etz... same thing.
 The fets get hot very quickly. Apecore's fets don't get hot at all, using a similar TL circuit.
   Last night I found one more still use able IRFP260N mosfet, so now I have two fets working again, and I can show the scope shots that you requested, later today.  But, in any case there is practically no output at the bulb, or bulbs.  Similar to Itsu's last video, and results.
   Yesterday I worked 12 hours, at my normal job, and today it's going to be similar. So, I stayed up until 1am last night working on my circuits.
This has not been an easy fix, so far.  But, I'll get it going right. At least the duty cycle and frequency are working, to some degree, enough to continue testing the circuit.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17125 on: April 17, 2017, 07:26:47 PM »
   TK:
   It's not the scope, or the channel trigger settings at fault. I have tried to swap the probes, etz... same thing.
 The fets get hot very quickly. Apecore's fets don't get hot at all, using a similar TL circuit.
   Last night I found one more still use able IRFP260N mosfet, so now I have two fets working again, and I can show the scope shots that you requested, later today.  But, in any case there is practically no output at the bulb, or bulbs.  Similar to Itsu's last video, and results.
   Yesterday I worked 12 hours, at my normal job, and today it's going to be similar. So, I stayed up until 1am last night working on my circuits.
This has not been an easy fix, so far.  But, I'll get it going right. At least the duty cycle and frequency are working, to some degree, enough to continue testing the circuit.
I((F)FDP260s are only 200 volt, i think mine are 600volt but you can get 1200volt Fast devices, I bet your getting a good overshoot with that devices and then sinking it to earth, wouldn't some faster devices be better and rewinding the torrid to put most of it back into the system ? This is my waveform notice the waveform. Hope it helps I only have 1 high voltage probe so can't display both outputs at the same time.
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17126 on: April 18, 2017, 03:57:26 PM »
hello to all, there are important message from Tariel, he says so: in the device is amplified only a current component, furthermore pulsed and necessarily need have a grounding... I attach the original message


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« Reply #17127 on: April 18, 2017, 05:41:23 PM »
hello to all, there are important message from Tariel, he says so: in the device is amplified only a current component, furthermore pulsed and necessarily need have a grounding... I attach the original message
Till yesterday I was for the whole week at Tariel place..... Schematic "Sapoga"
Tariel and Timur  with laugh  responded.
This "thesis" to the point..... from that what is  allowed to be said.
1)Ground wire  in schematic must have.
2)Spark gap    must have.
3)To start process needed to have phase and zero( ground) The one or the other:(either) from generator  or from  electrical  outlet.
At output  two phase ,voltage should be the same at input as in output. ( ground wire must have)
there is amplification of current component in formed impulse (  in impulse by itself)- (that is what he said  current amplifier) and this is inconvenient ,
when dissipated there is need to "isolate it - separate" , expensive converters, or do it different by rewinding synchronous motors so that one would be driving hydraulics  or flywheel.
I have no rights to give you more information, but I hope a lot of  falsification-schematics will be rejected.
I wish you luck
Free energy Exists.
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From Wesley
To some who criticize me
I do not care if you like my comments or not . I believe that in my long comments I include essential  details  If you do not  like it I will simply stop to write.
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Hydraulic concept was the one  Tariel was talking me to finance . And I have no problem to  find people with money.
I opposed to it as well as that particular  wealthy friend of mine did.
We both are for noncommercial activity.
But there is significant connection  between synchronous motors and Tariel concept.
Presence  of such motors we have seen in most of Tariel presentation.
But new and essential element in this present  comment starting this post is flywheel.
Yesterday I have had (incidentally)  a discussion about  forms of temporary  stored energy with my friend  in science John


So in means  of  temporary energy storage  we have:

1. Flyback transformer from  CRT TV. Temporary energy storage is made by means of gap in ferrite core.
a. the same story  happened in Lithuania experiment when the only way that Aidas device start to work was when me and Arunas we requested from Aidas to place paper divider  between two half 's of ferrite core from Rubin CRT
b. we might also see SR implementing divider/ spacer in his ferrite assembly.

2. Flywheel  Mechanical flywheel  was used for  long time  as energy storage when  rotational mechanical moment was by all means serving well to the point of need for that energy to be converted back to electrical energy.
And that is what Tariel is talking about   mentioning  either/ or  - flywheel/ synchronous motor

3. Hydroelectric energy storage
think of it as  another means of temporary energy storage
http://energystorage.org/energy-storage/technologies/pumped-hydroelectric-storage
Tariel third device was the one that used hydroelectric mechanism.

And now guys try to find in this puzzle some sense knowing that Tariel started from electrostatic device where capacitive reactance also serves as temporary  energy storage
than he transition form spark interrupter ( complaining  at instability of electrodes) to electronic impulse interrupter ( gas stove HV impulse train generator)
than he  transition himself to hydroelectric device
but in the meantime he presented in Germany  Flywheel  motor coupled  with electric motor by  belt.
Every  of his  experiments have had some sort of  energy storage e.g bank of capacitors, motor with nothing connected  to it or 3 motors( for three phases)
Every of his experiment have had  HV
Every of his experiments have had ground wire
https://youtu.be/7Ldus3AQSpE?t=928 - this was Tariel Hydro electric device

Wesley

http://www.controleng.com/single-article/monitoring-induction-motors-for-energy-savings/5bfaa5385d8bab73100e37d54caec817.html
http://www.free-energy-info.com/P25.pdf


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« Reply #17128 on: April 18, 2017, 05:46:56 PM »
great thanks to stivep!

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« Reply #17129 on: April 18, 2017, 08:32:56 PM »
and some my small experiments with schematics, in brief when turning on the "kacher", their shining of the lamp is amplified and in adding grounding is amplified further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpjFCVj_S8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIc1LGwgrIE

 

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