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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 6454034 times)

Offline PolaczekCebulaczek

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17010 on: April 02, 2017, 10:08:30 PM »
I'm afraid I can't answer that, because this is the first time I've seen that connection used. I can tell you that in normal Tesla coils, you definitely do NOT want the mains power supply connected to the secondary as this can be very dangerous to people and equipment.


This is exactly what I want, It doesn't have to be mains AC 60 hz, we can use other AC HV HF current source, I have a strong feeling that this is HOW the the russians hoaxers do their FE videos ... maybe old man Kapanadze as well..., current from another hidden power source is flowing in earth or water pipe and "free energy" device resonate with it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17011 on: April 03, 2017, 09:26:54 AM »

This is exactly what I want, It doesn't have to be mains AC 60 hz, we can use other AC HV HF current source, I have a strong feeling that this is HOW the the russians hoaxers do their FE videos ... maybe old man Kapanadze as well..., current from another hidden power source is flowing in earth or water pipe and "free energy" device resonate with it.
Eerr could you please explain your theory behind your theory 8) 8) 8)  :-X on how that could possibly work and how Morrey could have faked it in the 40's please.

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« Reply #17012 on: April 03, 2017, 09:50:21 AM »
Eerr could you please explain your theory behind your theory 8) 8) 8)  :-X on how that could possibly work and how Morrey could have faked it in the 40's please.

Not yet, first I have to run some tests..  Mooray device was genuine free energy device, one on the few that really worked and this cant be said about primitive russian devices that we are seeing lately.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17013 on: April 03, 2017, 07:12:09 PM »
I'd need a 2-ch scopeshot of the drain current vs. drain voltage to be able to see what is stressing your MOSFET (look at Itsu's videos how to take them).
Good question.  The "Stalker" schematic seems to show a +15V regulator on the TC4420's supply rail.

Note, that the 12V Zener diode string at the MOSFET's gate will break down at 12.6V which is 2.4V lower than that +15V supply rail, suggesting that these Zeners are conducting in every cycle (only the 10Ω resistor is limiting their current).
A Zener current scopeshot would reveal that.  Gate voltage would be interesting, too.
5. The MUR1560 is a good fast high-current diode, I use them a lot myself. I'm not clear, however, how this works when used in addition to the snubber network. Maybe someone with more experience can help out here.

Such diode placed in antiparallel with the MOSFET (D-S) would only augment its internal body diode.  This makes sense if the external diode is faster and has a lower forward voltage drop (VF) than the body diode.  Does it?

   Verpies:  I made the changes to the snubbers, so that the 1k resistor and the two facing zener diodes are connected to the mosfets gate side of the 10 ohm resistor. But, no noticeable difference, the fets are still untouchable in less than one minute run time. And this is with a small fan on them, as well.
   The fets still overheat even if using a 12v, 7Ah battery, as the input source, and once going through the voltage regulators, and filters, there is only 11.8v at the TL494, as well as to the drivers.   So, I'm still looking into what is hogging up all the current. At times, depending on the duty cycle control, and the frequency, the draw can be over 10A, and the power supply will kick off by it's over-current protection circuit.
   I'm using 18v zeners on the snubbers at this time, as in the Ruslan diagram.
   My power input is from a 24v, 10A power supply. And the load bulb(s), one or two 100w bulbs, are still lighting at low levels. Even with of best tuning of the TL494 trim pots.
   Somehow, it looks like both the Kacher and the push pull are running at the SAME frequency.
   I need more time to get to know how this is all working, or not working. As something, or several things are not working right, as yet.  However in further looking into it, it looks like both FETs are on at the same time, at times.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 01:17:19 AM by NickZ »

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« Reply #17014 on: April 04, 2017, 01:01:17 AM »
   Verpies:  I made the changes to the snubbers, so that the 1k resistor and the two facing zener diodes are connected to the mosfets gate side of the 10 ohm resistor. But, no noticeable difference, the fets are still untouchable in less than one minute run time. And this is with a small fan on them, as well.
   The fets still overheat even if using a 12v, 7Ah battery, as the input source, and once going through the voltage regulators, and filters, there is only 11.8v at the TL494, as well as to the drivers.   So, I'm still looking into what is hogging up all the current. At times, depending on the duty cycle control, and the frequency, the draw can be over 10A, and the power supply will kick off by it's over-current protection circuit.
   I'm using 18v zeners on the snubbers at this time, as in the Ruslan diagram.
   My power input is from a 24v, 10A power supply. And the load bulb(s), one or two 100w bulbs, are still lighting at low levels. Even with of best tuning of the TL494 trim pots.
   Somehow, it looks like both the Kacher and the push pull are running at the SAME frequency.
   I need more time to get to know how this is all working, or not working. As something, or several things are not working right, as yet.
And what frequency is that ?
Do you remember a couple of vids by a guy called G Sav see if you can find them and go through them the one coil was 4 time the frequency of the other but it was not a self runner.

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« Reply #17014 on: April 04, 2017, 01:01:17 AM »
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« Reply #17015 on: April 04, 2017, 02:13:10 AM »
  Verpies: After some more testing, I can see that both fets are ON at the same time.
   What can be done about it?  If I go back to your suggested connection method, I'll only have one channel working. And even that one channel may not be working right.

   AG: the frequency is high, barely able to hear it. Don't
know exactly at what frequency until I do the math on it.
But,  it doesn't matter until it's working right.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17016 on: April 04, 2017, 03:38:55 AM »
Verpies: After some more testing, I can see that both fets are ON at the same time.
What voltage do you have between pin13 and pin7 ?

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« Reply #17017 on: April 04, 2017, 05:45:21 AM »
What voltage do you have between pin13 and pin7 ?

  As it is right now, my multi-meter can't read the voltage between pin #13 and pin #7. Possibly due to high voltage interference  from the kacher. It should read 12v, though. Maybe if I disconnect the kacher
   I'll keep looking into the problem tommorow, as it's getting late here tonight. 
   I was getting the same signal as I had shown at first, out of the TL494 and out of both drivers. Which I checked just beforel I added the snubbers, and connected the push pull up to the yoke and to the rest of the system.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17018 on: April 04, 2017, 08:49:13 AM »
It should read 12v, though.
No, it should read 5V

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« Reply #17019 on: April 04, 2017, 11:25:02 AM »
Some scope shots would really help to diagnose the problem. Even from a blurry scope.

Both mosfets should not be turning on at the same time. If the 494 is producing complimentary outputs from pins 9 and 10 with some dead time as it should be doing, then there must be something wrong downstream.

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« Reply #17020 on: April 04, 2017, 07:36:26 PM »
No, it should read 5V

   OK, I'll check again, but with the kacher off. 
   There is no doubt that the heat is due to both FETs being on at the same time. With duty cycle down low, the FETs are not both on at the same time, and there less heating, but no light at the bulbs. The problem may still be in the TLs duty cycle circuit, as the frequency circuit seams to work OK. But, there's a snare somewhere...  And Stalker has shown that he does have dead time controls working with his circuit, at least to some usable degree.

   EDIT:  Now, without any Kacher working, testing the connection between pin #13 and pin #7 produces NO voltage on my TL494.  And the yoke stops ringing when I test those pins. So it affects something, or stops something, and I get no voltage readings when I try to test those voltage points.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2017, 10:56:10 PM by NickZ »

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« Reply #17021 on: April 04, 2017, 11:08:03 PM »
Some scope shots would really help to diagnose the problem. Even from a blurry scope.

Both mosfets should not be turning on at the same time. If the 494 is producing complimentary outputs from pins 9 and 10 with some dead time as it should be doing, then there must be something wrong downstream.

   But, them there Fets ARE turning ON at the same time, depending on the duty cycle.  So, I do suspect the snubber circuit or the placement of the MUR1560 diode may have something to do with it, as well.
    For there to be any use able output from the driver to the yoke/grenade circuits, the duty cycle needs to be where it would now burn up the fets, in less than a few minutes. Could be down stream... also. The problem is in the dead time, or lack of it. So, duty cycle circuit, or dead time controller may not be working right at all, as Verpies has mentioned.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17022 on: April 04, 2017, 11:13:01 PM »
Now, without any Kacher working, testing the connection between pin #13 and pin #7 produces NO voltage on my TL494. 
No DC voltage there means that something is very wrong.
You must have 5VDC there to have push-pull operation.

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« Reply #17023 on: April 04, 2017, 11:19:53 PM »
   Yet the yoke is ringing when testing, so there are oscillations, until I connect the meter to 13 and 7 pins, then the ringing stops...
   Strange,  yes.

   TK: Scope shots of what exactly?  And just where should the I connect the probes.
   You can look at the previously posted Stalker diagram, as it's the closest to my set up.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17024 on: April 04, 2017, 11:52:38 PM »
   Yet the yoke is ringing when testing, so there are oscillations, until I connect the meter to 13 and 7 pins, then the ringing stops...
   Strange,  yes.
Yes, strange, since the Voltmeter should be very high impedance and shouldn't affect the performance of the circuit. Are your solder connections all good?

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   TK: Scope shots of what exactly?  And just where should the I connect the probes.
   You can look at the previously posted Stalker diagram, as it's the closest to my set up.

Can you post a scopeshot of the mosfet Drains, one on CH1 and the other on CH2, probe grounds to the common Source connection?

According to the Stalker schematic the mosfet common Source connection is at circuit ground, so there should be no problem about ground loops with the scope probe ground leads. Your device is battery powered?

Verpies (and I) would also like to see one mosfet's Drain current on CH1 and voltage on CH2, this is a little more complicated, see Itsu's videos for how to do that.

 

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