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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16800 on: March 03, 2017, 02:07:14 AM »
A simple answer, yes or no...

Does the wire length of layers 1 + 2 = 3 + 4 + 5 + 6?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16801 on: March 03, 2017, 02:18:18 AM »
 ”But why did the lights come on again and why didn't it short and why were there no sparks...
 
 perhaps because the gas in the bulbs was being ionized and not the filaments?
 
 perhaps because it was not normal electricity?
 
 perhaps it was radiant RF being fed into the bulbs by the Tesla coil in parallel with the low primary and high secondary coil pairs?”
 
 
YES…see clip… of " RF type high frequency electricity".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGkZIx4rseE
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16802 on: March 03, 2017, 02:42:11 AM »
Hello Dog One    ..... Yess     2 times 19M is  38M
Quote
A simple answer, yes or no ...

Is the wire length of layers 1 + 2 = 3 + 4 + 5 + 6?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16803 on: March 03, 2017, 03:25:53 AM »
Hello Dog One    ..... Yess     2 times 19M is  38M

Okay good.  Dielectric lines of force are balanced.

So in terms of wire length, the grenade is neutral.  Same meters of wire
clockwise as counter-clockwise.


Now for magnetic lines of force, my follow-up questions are...

Total turns of layers 1 + 2 =    what?

Total turns of layers 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 =    what?
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16804 on: March 03, 2017, 09:10:49 AM »
I'm surprised no one noticed what happened when the metal shunt on the end of the stick, was shorted across the terminals next to one of the light bulbs. One would expect a shower of sparks, killing the whole machine and welding the shunt to the two terminals
One would expect that if the device acted as a voltage source.
One would not expect that if the device acted as a current source.

Back to Basics: Charged capacitors act as voltage sources and charged inductors act as current sources.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16805 on: March 03, 2017, 10:20:05 AM »
A simple answer, yes or no...

Does the wire length of layers 1 + 2 = 3 + 4 + 5 + 6?
The simpler answer - L1+2 inductance = -L3+4+5+6 .. This is what we aiming for with winding/unwinding L5+L6 for reaching total inductane close to 0 :)
And the standing wave have to be under inductor of grenade which makes scalar field there.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16806 on: March 03, 2017, 12:02:46 PM »
Okay good.  Dielectric lines of force are balanced.

So in terms of wire length, the grenade is neutral.  Same meters of wire
clockwise as counter-clockwise.


Now for magnetic lines of force, my follow-up questions are...

Total turns of layers 1 + 2 =    what?

Total turns of layers 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 =    what?
Don't quote me on this but I will now try and explain the idea or totally confuse you ;)

lets suppose,  (i will now use use L = layer ok), L6 &5 = length 1 (1/4) so it's 2 1/4 = 2  of our 14 sections, With it ?

L3 & L4 are twice length of L5 L6 = 1/2 X2 = 4 still with it ?

L1 &L2 are twice  L3 & L4  = 1wave x 2 = 8 still with it  so 8 + 4 + 2 = total of 14 equal sections of = length cable of our 38.5 meters of cable.(all lengths of cable 14 in all have to be the same length x the amount 1/4 waves used in that section of cable your wingdings

lets assume our wave is 38 meters ok so if 38.5m / 14 = 2.5 meters approx per 1/4 wave

Note L3 4 5 6 are used to try to zero the inductance of the first two wingdings
but all the 37 meter should be used in the wind with the rest used as a connector length = 37.5 total.
all info is from information collected from original source.

L6  1/4 wave  total wire length 2.75 m                      *per layer **     1/4 wave
L5  1/4 wave total wire length  2.75 m                             ''                 1/4 not wave

L4  1/4 + 1/4  total wire length 5.5 m                              ''                 1/2 wave
L3  1/4 + 1/4 total wire length 5.5 m                               ''                 1/2 not  wave (inverted)

Note the lower L1&2 have to 'spot on'
L2  1/4 + 1/4 +1/4 +1/4 total  wire length 11  m            ''                   1.0 wave
L1  1/4 + 1/4 +1/4 +1/4  total wire length 11 m             ''                   1.0 not wave (inverted)
     
Golden ratio ? wave guide
confused ;) ( wait till you find out how un linier in inductance it is as you wind it ! ;)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2017, 07:44:22 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16807 on: March 03, 2017, 02:02:48 PM »
@verpies

http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg501064/#msg501064

Just wanted to thank you for your post above. I will look into this to see how they derived this data.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16808 on: March 03, 2017, 02:42:11 PM »
@verpies

http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg501064/#msg501064

Just wanted to thank you for your post above. I will look into this to see how they derived this data.

wattsup

Yes..... Ditto to that..... :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16809 on: March 03, 2017, 06:41:08 PM »
Quote from: T-100
The simpler answer - L1+2 inductance = -L3+4+5+6 .. This is what we aiming for with
winding/unwinding L5+L6 for reaching total inductane close to 0 :)
And the standing wave have to be under inductor of grenade which makes scalar field there.

You have two types of inductance (magnetic and dielectric) and two types of waves (TEM & LMD)
active here.  LMD waves have no magnetic component so only the wire length is of any consideration
for those.  We can be pretty certain TEM waves in the grenade coil propagate slower since they do
have a magnetic component.

I see this as a process of combining two types of waves.  In understandable terms, magnetic is current;
dielectric is voltage.  LMD waves are purely dielectric; TEM waves are both dielectric and magnetic.

The push/pull produces purely TEM waves.  The Telsa secondary produces TEM waves also, but is
filtered by the bucking coil ferrite rod, leaving mostly LMD waves at the Tesla extra coil (antenna).
BTW, the large spherical cylinder on a typical Tesla coil device is also a filter of TEM waves.

Now to get mixing in the so-called standing wave, we have to have the correct ratios; part of this
depends on the load applied to the grenade coil since it is well known BEMF from the load will
induce a magnetic field in the grenade and disturb the standing wave.  That's what current flow
does.  So the LMD wave at the antenna needs to augment this current flow in-phase.  And at
the same time, layers 3,4,5,6 must magnetically buck half of layers 1,2.  Those magnetic
lines of force must cancel out, leaving only the magnetic lines of force under the antenna.
This is where things get a little tricky due to the shape of the grenade coil--where are the
magnetic lines of force?  Layers 1,2 are in-phase and only partially bucked by layers 3,4,5 & 6.

Under no load conditions, layers 1,2 are almost completely bucked by layers 3,4,5 & 6.  No
BEMF, no current; that one is easy.

Under load, now it's not so easy, because we don't know exactly how these magnetic lines
of force mesh.  We can guess most of them cancel furthest away from the antenna.  Under
extreme load, the lines of force extend past the antenna and the system stops functioning
because now the TEM and LMD waves are completely out of phase.  Here the Tesla coil
would actually hinder the output instead of augment it.  By design it would appear the
grenade coil is actually self regulating--current is automatically reduced when the magnetic
lines of force extend into the region of the antenna.

I'm probably not making a lot of sense in all this, so before I get labelled as a kook, I'll stop
here.


A couple of ways to trigger a Tesla coil; one creates a ringing, the other does not:
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/af/27/67/e5/fe/17/48/95/CD00003947.pdf/files/CD00003947.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00003947.pdf

Guess which one works better for this application.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16810 on: March 03, 2017, 08:07:43 PM »
You have two types of inductance (magnetic and dielectric) and two types of waves (TEM & LMD)
active here.  LMD waves have no magnetic component so only the wire length is of any consideration
for those.  We can be pretty certain TEM waves in the grenade coil propagate slower since they do
have a magnetic component.

I see this as a process of combining two types of waves.  In understandable terms, magnetic is current;
dielectric is voltage.  LMD waves are purely dielectric; TEM waves are both dielectric and magnetic.

The push/pull produces purely TEM waves.  The Telsa secondary produces TEM waves also, but is
filtered by the bucking coil ferrite rod, leaving mostly LMD waves at the Tesla extra coil (antenna).
BTW, the large spherical cylinder on a typical Tesla coil device is also a filter of TEM waves.

Now to get mixing in the so-called standing wave, we have to have the correct ratios; part of this
depends on the load applied to the grenade coil since it is well known BEMF from the load will
induce a magnetic field in the grenade and disturb the standing wave.  That's what current flow
does.  So the LMD wave at the antenna needs to augment this current flow in-phase.  And at
the same time, layers 3,4,5,6 must magnetically buck half of layers 1,2.  Those magnetic
lines of force must cancel out, leaving only the magnetic lines of force under the antenna.
This is where things get a little tricky due to the shape of the grenade coil--where are the
magnetic lines of force?  Layers 1,2 are in-phase and only partially bucked by layers 3,4,5 & 6.

Under no load conditions, layers 1,2 are almost completely bucked by layers 3,4,5 & 6.  No
BEMF, no current; that one is easy.

Under load, now it's not so easy, because we don't know exactly how these magnetic lines
of force mesh.  We can guess most of them cancel furthest away from the antenna.  Under
extreme load, the lines of force extend past the antenna and the system stops functioning
because now the TEM and LMD waves are completely out of phase.  Here the Tesla coil
would actually hinder the output instead of augment it.  By design it would appear the
grenade coil is actually self regulating--current is automatically reduced when the magnetic
lines of force extend into the region of the antenna.

I'm probably not making a lot of sense in all this, so before I get labelled as a kook, I'll stop
here.


A couple of ways to trigger a Tesla coil; one creates a ringing, the other does not:
http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/af/27/67/e5/fe/17/48/95/CD00003947.pdf/files/CD00003947.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00003947.pdf

Guess which one works better for this application.
Oh i don't know so much, I thought it was a good explanation my self, and who would have thought that about the old spark plug I think that German guy the guru to you echoed the same assumption 3 or four years ago.

so thanks for confirming it ! AG.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16811 on: March 03, 2017, 08:13:25 PM »
I'm probably not making a lot of sense in all this, so before I get labelled as a kook, I'll stop
here.
Hi Matt,

You are on correct way on thinking about what is happening on grenade coil. With that theory in mind you can approach your build and see what results will be.

P.S. Check your Skype :)

Cheers!


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16813 on: March 04, 2017, 02:28:53 AM »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FREE-ENERGY-GENERATOR-ZERO-POINT-ENERGY-7-3Kw-220V-/132106746213
Ah! the famous John Searl Rotary Encoded magnetic Drive and generator Searl Effect Generator SEG. I wouldn't mind betting its a fraud!

I couldnt see John knowingly Sell an original since no others Have been sold or have there ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16814 on: March 04, 2017, 04:38:47 PM »
Working free energy generator (rus)
https://youtu.be/o2Z0Vydg278

His calculation - http://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/combi_3?lang=en

 

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