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lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16260 on: December 11, 2016, 04:28:34 AM »
I think  Grumage built this device I wonder if he will re-look at his device ?
Also the coils l5 to L9 I 'm not too sure how they are wound but won't they have to matched with a transmission line device ? is that what his spectrum analyzer is for ?

Good day AlienGrey

Think you hit the nail on the head............  I believe it will be difficult at best if not impossible to build this without a Spectrum Analyzer. 

Imagine stacking the nodes/antinodes of multiple standing waveforms in a multi-layer air coil.

Where to start?

Maybe with the ground plane......... and all other capacitive interactions ( design & ambient).

Yes, a spectrum analyzer would be a great assistance.

take care, peace
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16261 on: December 11, 2016, 09:00:03 AM »
Imagine stacking the nodes/antinodes of multiple standing waveforms in a multi-layer air coil.
I wrote something similar in the very first page of this thread. See the quote below:

When a standing wave is induced into a shorted coaxial cable, it is possible to align the nodes and antinodes of the standing wave by folding the cable in such a way that theese nodes are next to each other, e.g. by folding the cable into a serpentine or a helix.  This special arrangement will lead to the superposition of the perpendicular E and B vectors of each fold or turn.

For this to happen in a coil (helix) the distance between the nodes of the standing wave has to be equal to the circumference of each helical turn of the coaxial cable.

However, while I know how to make create standing waves and superpose them in a helix, I do not understand how this leads to energy gain.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16262 on: December 11, 2016, 11:07:04 AM »
FYI: Those ISDN Telco transfomers work very well as GDTs and they are quite cheap where I live.

Hi Verpies
Is it possible to attach a link for those transformers? Even i like more making it myself, i am curious to see their frequency ranges and prices.

Hey Lost_bro
With just two posts of yours, i can make a complete guide for GDTs! ;D
For sure my next driver will be a double ended one! For now, i will try today to make a braid wire out of thinner gauges, and add the 1n4148 across the gate resistance. I'll post my new scopeshots.

Zener for now is out of discussion as my 12V supply is not enough for this.

Question: I use a 4.7 Ohm resistance between my mosfet driver and the decoupling capacitor at the primary side. Do you use a resistance at this point?  Or do you connect your driver's output straight to the cap and primary? I used it as i didn't want to overload my tc4420 but probably i have to take it at a lower values like 2 Ohm or so, or to omit it at all. As a gate resistance at the secondary side i use the same 4,7 Ohm for both of my mosfets.

ps. 650Khz is not my actual speed. It is just the value which my scope sees between the cursors, but these cursors were in a random position while scoping.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16263 on: December 11, 2016, 12:04:06 PM »
I'm working at Ruslan 7 replica, I still have problems with spikes and shifting signals on yoke. A strong snubber is minimise the amplitude of signal and change the frequency on inductor.

Hi Conico,
I have also some dangerous spikes on the source/drain side of the IRFP260M wich allows 240V..
What i see on my Ruslan7 setup is maybe someone like Verpies, Jeg or Lost_bro reconizes?

Duting driving only the 3 turn coil connected to the inductor i really have nice clean rectangle waveforms.
As soon when i increase the load by using the 30/45/60 turn secundairy connected to the kacher part the source/drain spike occur at the rising edge of the output wave.
It is a very sharp puls.
Also one of the fets has a significant higer puls then the other.
I use 10nf/100ohm snubber which stays cool normally, un fortenately it isn't capable in absorbing the high puls.

Since i reorientated my drivers close to the gates no treshold spikes occur on the gates anymore.
Also i have no significant HV interference little fuzzy resonance at the high level gatesignals...as this seems to be normal.
So it all improved a lot since last posted pictures. But it seems, altough Conico shows no pictures he has the same problem.

Can someone give some suggestions what to do about it?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16264 on: December 11, 2016, 12:11:01 PM »
I wrote something similar in the very first page of this thread. See the quote below:

However, while I know how to make create standing waves and superpose them in a helix, I do not understand how this leads to energy gain.
I too know very little on this subject but remember doing a telecommunications course years ago, it's something like energy is being transmitted down a coax line as a wave but if you get a mismatch going back the other way it destroys your driver stage from what I can remember, however Eric Dollard is your man and he has a paper on it but it's not free if you look on his web page under his crystal set project you should find some relevant info there.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16265 on: December 11, 2016, 02:53:59 PM »
Dear apecore.

I have attached a picture that Nick posted many pages back, it is a close up of the snubbers.

You might find that fitting a Varistor will help reduce those high voltage spikes.

Kind regards, Graham.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16266 on: December 11, 2016, 02:58:25 PM »
NickZ, can you give me a link or a diagram of that Roma device  ?

   Connico:  You'll have to ask Roma himself for the right schematic to his self runner. As that is what he was selling for $1.500, or so.  A working device was something like $3.500.  He is not open sourcing his device. But, there are diagrams that are on the internet, which may or may not work. As they are not from Roma, nor from anyone that has been able to replicate his device(s).
However, there is a  diagram from a guy that bought some schematics from him, but, it's not the same as what Roma had been showing in his videos. And Roma is not showing anything else, lately, and may have taken his videos down, as well.
I don't know if there have been any replications, using that purchased diagram, or not.  I do have some of those diagrams though.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16267 on: December 11, 2016, 03:42:47 PM »
Dear apecore.

I have attached a picture that Nick posted many pages back, it is a close up of the snubbers.

You might find that fitting a Varistor will help reduce those high voltage spikes.

Kind regards, Graham.

Dear Graham,

Thanks for the responds, unfortenately it does't work or maybe better solves the problem
i added a varistor150Vdc and same thing occurs.

What i do see after some extra monitoring of supply voltage is that the kacher system not only radiates HF into my TL494 circuit but also pollutes the supply volage true the whole system.
So by putting some aluminium shielding in order to elominate the kachter radiation reduces the radio noises out of fets/ yoke wich reduces some of the spike polution on the source/ drains and also gates.

But the 10 mhz waves 1 or 2Vpp on the supply voltages stil are there.
So i gues i have to work on some net filtering :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16268 on: December 11, 2016, 04:16:30 PM »
  apecore:
   You can maybe try to place a diode on the power supply so that the spikes don't go there? However the spikes are all throughout the whole system. A proper tuned 37.5m grounding line helps to reduce that.

   The varitor on the Akula second video schematic normally goes between the 3t coil and the 28t coil, so that the initial turn on won't rush too much power at turn on, and so that the power will turn on more slowly, between the coils. At least that is what I've heard.
   10MHz is very high frequency, what is providing for such high frequency?  Or are you thinking 1MHz, instead, from the Kacher's output?
    Some spiking is normal, but not over the IRFP260N fets voltage rating of 200v. But, if a very low duty cycle is being used, some higher spikes may not be too destructive. Like Verpies had mentioned previously.
   
   Have you been able to get the Kacher to sync with the induction circuit, and to provide for brighter bulbs?

    I'll call you later today...

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« Reply #16269 on: December 11, 2016, 07:55:26 PM »
This is an experiment that I did with a TV yolk wound like Ruslins.
I’m not sure what the yolk came off of,  (TV or Computer Monitor).
I used my Geiger counter to monitor the yolk while I changed the
Driver’s frequency and voltage. The video shows the test results.
The results are inconclusive due to lack of better equipment, but
Still interesting. I have another yolk that is different, that I can try,
And see what the results are.
https://youtu.be/nPAd5qszhtg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16270 on: December 11, 2016, 08:37:53 PM »
Hi guys,

Positive results on source spike reduction

For whom is interested.
It seems that those spikes on the source were indirectly coming from the emf pulses of my kacher primairy.
As i was charging a tank capacitor (470uF) by a diode from the collector (2sc5200), which was charged at almost 190V.

By discharging this capacitor back (by a diode) to the kacher supply capacitor wich has a 75 volts from the bridge rectifier
The voltage in the tank capacitor due on the collector drops to 65Volts.

Also those mentioned peaks on the push pull sources decrease after starting the system down to 90volts



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16271 on: December 11, 2016, 09:28:07 PM »
I wrote something similar in the very first page of this thread. See the quote below:

However, while I know how to make create standing waves and superpose them in a helix, I do not understand how this leads to energy gain.

Good day Verpies
I do not believe that superimposed standing waves can elicit/produce extra energy by itself.

The system in question is based on the premise that a complex standing wave pattern (ie: superimposed) is bombarded at the correct time in space by a HV electrostatic field (tesla Antenna or third coil) produced by the interaction of CW  & CCW wound Grenade (capacitance interaction) and Inductor winding.

Of course if it is indeed a closed system, then even the possibility of extra energy entering the system is negated. 

But, if this is an open system, perhaps by means of a *tuned* ground cable a type of  electrostatic pumping action can be had.

Of course all this is just  speculation *until* someone stumbles across the needed tuning configuration.

The fun is in the hunt.

take care, peace
lost_bro



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16272 on: December 11, 2016, 09:40:44 PM »
I wrote something similar in the very first page of this thread. See the quote below:

For this to happen in a coil (helix) the distance between the nodes of the standing wave has to be equal to the circumference of each helical turn of the coaxial cable.



Good day Verpies

"the distance between the nodes of the standing wave has to be equal to the circumference of each helical turn of the coaxial cable."

Ok, so then we calculate the frequency according to the circumference of the winding in order to superimpose the nodes/antinodes.  It would seem that this would make the operating frequency a function of the physical dimensions of the windings?

How would this be affected by a multi-layer winding  scheme, as we now have six distinct circumferences?

And if the cable is NOT coaxial? It is now not a transmission line in the strictest sense? Both Ruslan and Akula use a standard 2.5mm2 insulated type cable.

Thanks in advance.
take care, peace
lost_bro
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 01:12:20 AM by lost_bro »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16273 on: December 11, 2016, 10:23:01 PM »
Hi Verpies
Is it possible to attach a link for those transformers? Even i like more making it myself, i am curious to see their frequency ranges and prices.

Hey Lost_bro
With just two posts of yours, i can make a complete guide for GDTs! ;D
For sure my next driver will be a double ended one! For now, i will try today to make a braid wire out of thinner gauges, and add the 1n4148 across the gate resistance. I'll post my new scopeshots.

Zener for now is out of discussion as my 12V supply is not enough for this.

Question: I use a 4.7 Ohm resistance between my mosfet driver and the decoupling capacitor at the primary side. Do you use a resistance at this point?  Or do you connect your driver's output straight to the cap and primary? I used it as i didn't want to overload my tc4420 but probably i have to take it at a lower values like 2 Ohm or so, or to omit it at all. As a gate resistance at the secondary side i use the same 4,7 Ohm for both of my mosfets.

ps. 650Khz is not my actual speed. It is just the value which my scope sees between the cursors, but these cursors were in a random position while scoping.

Good day Jeg.

Actually I used a resistor in series with the decoupling cap when I was running normal duty cycle range, ie: 10-50%.  On the 3-switch flyback it was a 10 ohm.  On the nano-second pulse GDTs I completely dropped the series resistor and ran only with the cap in series with the primary.
 
The 10 ohm resistor would start to heat up, it dissipates heat in relation to the operating frequency. I found that this resistor has the same over all effect as the Gate resistor on the secondary side (slew rate), it will slow down the rising and falling edges of your waveform.  This is why I removed it from my nano-pulse circuits, was best just to control the edges by Gate resistor. Of course all this depends on your winding technique and the resulting leakage inductance.

Never had a problem with over-driving my GDT drivers when NOT using the series resistor as long as the cap is in place (without the cap the driver will release it's magic smoke), just a faster signal.  Best way is to scope-it, as each GDT is different likewise it's response will be different.

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT: added White Paper;  GDT, XFMR  info.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16274 on: December 11, 2016, 10:40:20 PM »
Quote
standing wave pattern (ie: superimposed) is bombarded at the correct time in space by a HV electrostatic field (tesla Antenna or third coil) produced by the interaction of CW  & CCW wound Grenade (capacitance interaction) and Inductor winding.

this is what I'm working on right now, to inject E field from electrostatic field into EM wave so wave would have infinite voltage source since electrostatic field  can't be depleted, is there any reason why this should be impossible? not sure about standing waves maybe we can force a wave to really froze in space(for a while) for that to work.