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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 10182877 times)

Offline GeoFusion

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15555 on: October 31, 2016, 08:49:15 PM »
Can you feel these vibrations with your hand or just ears?

I was asking because in 2005 two scientists, Konrad and Brudny, have documented an effect that electric field pulses had on some ferrimagnetic materials, causing a variation in their magnetic permeability. 
This was described in an article titled "An Improved Method for Virtual Air Gap Length Computation" in IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 41, No. 10 (10/2005)

Tesla coils and other HV pulsers produce such variations in electric field.

yes, You can feel these just like *shockwaves, even if you place a magnet near the mediator or device. not to close.
corresponding to every cracking or tick sound you can hear with your ears, it will create virbrations within.
Interesting Document there verpies, Yes I am very aware in such cases, but never heard of this one in 2005 :)
Virtual Air Gap Length Computation, nice

Electric fields bring sometimes surprises which still amazes me, When two collide they can produce
interesting effects especially when you have 2 or more T. coils within the same SG in a certain arrangement.

Geo,

Thanks for your comments which I appreciate.

Its clear that the tuning of the system is highly sensitive to hand capacitance and component placement. The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load. The connection of the earth wire is not sucking-in energy from the ground, just improving the impedance match from the grenade to the lamp. I'm satisfied that you have replicated the effects seen on other videos and hope that you progress to a self-runner.

 Hoppy,
 no problem.
Someone has to do these to make sure of things to be ligit or not.
Now it's to finish this of and make it produce at it's best and self run.
"The last key has been found but now it's to implement and experimented with.
there one video of guska which in fact helped to know what was missing :).
and with help of Arunas getting extra info now from Akula.
 I still don't have it on my board. but seems the mediator is doing partially it's job also.

Cheerz~



Offline GeoFusion

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15556 on: October 31, 2016, 08:50:37 PM »
    Geo:
    I find it curious that what the spectrum analyzer is picking up is so different from what you mentioned the scope you used is reading.  Can you show a scope shot, or make a video using the scope, please. 
   I can also show what my scope is reading on my device, as well, and if I can make my yoke sing, I can also compare it with the sound spectrum analyzer. However, at the moment my yoke won't make a sound, most of the time.  I can also make the yoke vibrate strongly, at times as well, especially when magnetite magnets are added to the yoke, which normally does help to increase the output.
   
   The readings that I get on the spectrum analyzer are the ringings from your push-pull, yoke, mediator, etz...  Not from the HV, as that will not make an audible sound.  However, if you are running the push-pull at 25 to 27Khz, you should not be able to hear the tone that I am hearing. That is, your tone sounds lower than 25Khz.  So, I'm curious and hoping that we can discover why there are those differences in frequency readings.
 
   Can you tell us where you think that Adrian has his Kacher's "interuptor"?  As I only see a simple Kacher circuit, like yours or mine.

   It would also be interesting to see how your device reacts if using a short ground line going to a 12v car battery negative rail, instead of the longer ground line. Even though you aren't using the recommended 37.5 meter ground line.
   Ruslan also started with shorter ground lines, then changed to the more expensive 37.5 or 40 meter welding cable for his later builds.

   

Hi Nick,
Ok, Well then I will post a pick to show the freq of pushpull snipped from the print screen pic for view.
Yes, the magnetites do increase or decrease depends in what position they are in, twisting them and so.
Well if those ranges are not to be heard, then we wouldn't have heard all that on recording :)
The pic will show you the freq which I measured befor.
There is indeed alot of chaoticness going on between frequencies, but 23-24khz is fed to mosfets pushpull.
Same for the very first round core that was 25.6 khz. and does the squealing on yoke.

Edit*
I need to convince you to start using TL494 board for further experimentation.

Adrian's interrupter is on the board. The Kacher is simple, but has a add on...

 Yes ,Also did that with the minus of the battery, it works but not as good as a good earth.
virtual earth will work. but need more experimenting time on that. If good results it can without a earth wire.
but never really tried to hard on that part.
Yeah, not using recommended lenghts for the ground wire,
but did try many lenghts and this one worked for the best up till now
see what  gives the best results,

Wire lenght as for grenade as example 37.5M or 40M wire lenght is because
they know already where to tune the kacher's freq as standert.  Where to tune it properly where the Max peak is to harvest.
Than the wire lenght is decided for the grenade to be coiled to resonate on and harvest everything it can. The Receiver.
They have givin wire lenghts because that is in the ranges that they are working in,
there is even like sergey using 38M grenade for example.
it would be than that it will be the task to know on what to drive the tesla coil on ( voltage & freq) to resonate with the grenade.

cheerz~

Offline Ed morbus

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15557 on: November 01, 2016, 09:22:18 AM »
I've been on vacation
Does anyone have a link for last circuit diagram

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15558 on: November 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM »
How long did you go?  I don't think much has changed,  a lot of the Russian stuff is turning out to be misleading, who knows the truth ? try this one ;)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15559 on: November 01, 2016, 01:21:14 PM »
@Verpies

Attached is a HS N-channel mosfet driver. What i would like is to utilize the negative peak at mosfet's drain and charge with it some caps. My question is if C1 will absorb some of the negative peak's energy, as this is something that i don't want to. If you think so, then i should move to LS P-channel. What is your opinion?

ps. AG, is that a pirate map??? ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15560 on: November 01, 2016, 01:32:09 PM »
Thanks for your coment

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15561 on: November 01, 2016, 03:58:56 PM »
   I have had some problems when connecting my Kacher circuit and full bridge rectifier to the the 28t coil. This is to provide the input to the Kacher circuit with input power to run with.
  The problem is that there is too much power going into the Kacher circuit, and it causes overheating on the Kacher circuit transistor, and other components.  So, How can I lower the output from the 28t coil to the full bridge/Kacher circuit, so that I get only 24v output from the full bridge to the Kacher's input.  My 10k pot and 2000k worth of resistors on my Kacher circuit is not enough to lower the voltage. I also have placed two chokes on it as well.
   Any ideas?

Offline conico

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15562 on: November 01, 2016, 04:06:02 PM »
Did you try the duty cycle lower then 17% ?
You must have a coil sock in katcher diagram , I believe that must have more then 100uH for each part.
 if you change your sock coil the frequency of katcher will change.
 In my Katcher  I supply it at 24v an I have a sock coil at 100uH each part and the power of Tesla coil was low. I change it with a sock of 48 uH each part, a permissive one and my tesla coil is very powerful, 6-8 mm spark with the screwdriver.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15563 on: November 01, 2016, 04:14:42 PM »
   I have had some problems when connecting my Kacher circuit and full bridge rectifier to the the 28t coil. This is to provide the input to the Kacher circuit with input power to run with.
  The problem is that there is too much power going into the Kacher circuit, and it causes overheating on the Kacher circuit transistor, and other components.  So, How can I lower the output from the 28t coil to the full bridge/Kacher circuit, so that I get only 24v output from the full bridge to the Kacher's input.  My 10k pot and 2000k worth of resistors on my Kacher circuit is not enough to lower the voltage. I also have placed two chokes on it as well.
   Any ideas?

Hi Nick
It is supposed that all this high voltage out of the 28T sec, is applied briefly to your katcher driver through a thin sync pulse. If you continuously run your katcher by that voltage you will damage it of course. To do what you want, for me it is better to decrease your Secondary's turns. But is there any point for that? You already have 24V out of your pwr supply.   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15564 on: November 01, 2016, 04:30:53 PM »
   It's just a simple Kacher circuit, conico, without a duty cycle controller. 
I'm just trying to keep the input volts from going too high to it.

   Geo: Can you explain a bit more about the "interuptor" transistor, and how to incorporate it into the Kacher circuit?
   I know that you haven't tried to do it, yet, but, any info on it would be appreciated. You can PM me if you like, I also use whatsapp, and Skype.  I've called T a couple of times, but he has not responded, yet.

   I also used a "tone generator" and I can't hear the frequencies of 25Khz to 27kHz. But, I can hear yours, and it's the same as the tone generator running a tone of 6.98kHz.  So, I'm still interested in finding the differences. A current pic of the scope shot, would do.  BTW: do you have a scope, or can borrow one?  If not,  don't worry about it.  It's just a curiosity of mine. 
As I'd like to run at a similar frequency, of both grenade and Kacher circuits for comparisons to yours, and to apecore, also. As we have similar somewhat similar set ups of the Kacher/grenade coils system.
  Yes, I know about the TL494, and will go that route, in the future, no need to convince me, I'm already aware of what it can do. However, so far,  I've been able to replicate most of the same "effect" that you are showing up to now, even without it. 
 
  The feed back path is now the tricky part, as well, which is also what I'm dealing with, in the simplest way possible.
For me, simple is what I'm looking for.  Hopefully with commercial controllers that will do the trick, instead of homemade.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15565 on: November 01, 2016, 04:37:21 PM »
   It's just a simple Kacher circuit, conico, without a duty cycle controller. 
I'm just trying to keep the input volts from going too high to it.

   Geo: Can you explain a bit more about the "interuptor" transistor, and how to incorporate it into the Kacher circuit?
   I know that you haven't tried to yet, but, any info on it would be appreciated. You can PM me if you like, I also use whatsapp, and Skype.  I've called T a couple of times, but he has not responded, yet.

In akula's katcher http://imgur.com/a/6Bevd the transistors Q2 and Q3 are doing this. The output of that goes to the katcher transistor.
In regards to Skype, I still did not see your contact request...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15566 on: November 01, 2016, 04:51:44 PM »
In akula's katcher http://imgur.com/a/6Bevd the transistors Q2 and Q3 are doing this. The output of that goes to the katcher transistor.
In regards to Skype, I still did not see your contact request...
don't mind me but the katcher to me is the Tesler coil or in our model the relay coil turning on and off exciting the electrons, now is it Flemings right-hand rule or his left one is the motor and the other the generator. Any one got any thoughts on that ? so what about the TL494 driving the two grenade coils 38 m and 19m anyone know what they are doing? Oh and don't forget the Tesla coil is assumed to be about 10 times the grenade resonant pass frequency.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15567 on: November 01, 2016, 05:01:09 PM »
Nick,

As Jeg has commented, you could reduce the secondary turns but this may adversely affect the rest of your circuit - less bulb brightness. Alternatively, and preferably, a PWM push-pull (which Geo is now urging you to use) might help to reduce your duty cycle, although good control of the duty cycle is not guaranteed because the HV is likely to upset the control of the push-pull duty cycle. I noticed from Geo's video that according to his ammeter reading, his push-pull is running at quite a low power level around 24W (approx. 1A @ 24V), without the Kacher on. What current and voltage is your mazilli running at now?

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« Reply #15568 on: November 01, 2016, 05:03:00 PM »
    T-1000:
    I looked at that schematic of Akulas but, it's not so "simple".  Geo mentioned that just a transistor was added to Adrians "simple" Kacher, as shown on his video. As Adrian's Kacher is the same or at least similar to what Geo, or I am using. Apecore seams to be working on something alone those lines, as well.
   Any ideas about that?

   

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« Reply #15569 on: November 01, 2016, 05:06:11 PM »
    T-1000:
    I looked at that schematic of Akulas but, it's not so "simple".  Geo mentioned that just a transistor was added to Adrians "simple" Kacher, as shown on his video. As Adrian's Kacher is the same or at least similar to what Geo, or I am using. Apecore seams to be working on something alone those lines, as well.
   Any ideas about that?

 
Without PWM control and pulse timing it is enough to place 1 additional transistor on base of the katcher transistor then output of it goes to the ground. When this transistor will be turned on the katcher will stop. This is what was seen in Andrian's katcher circuit with extra transistor in middle of PCB.