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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 9192600 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15540 on: October 31, 2016, 05:07:05 AM »
   As Geo's device is running in the audible sound frequencies, I made some tests using a couple of different audio spectrum analyzers. Both analyzers are showing the same main running frequencies, at just under 7kHz. This is up from his previous normal yoke core device tests which were running at just under 5kHz for his main peak, with two other higher frequency peaks also, but, both other peaks showing lower outputs.
 
   Geo has one main running frequency on his last video, which is at 6.98kHz, but when he places his hand near the device, not only does the frequency change, to lower frequencies, but also several more new peaks come into view, as the hand movements creates more static like noise or interference. All the several new peaks are of lower frequency than his main one, which is at 6.98kHz, or thereabouts.
  Moving his hand around the device, does not produce any higher outputs, just a dimming, de-tuning and interference effects, at least that is what I can see on the spectrum analyzer.

   I don't think that it's a good idea to remove the ground while the Kacher is running. As that can kill some of the delicate components due to the HV running all over the device.
   I also think that the mediator coil can be allowing for over-currents throughout his device, which may cause overheating problems on the yoke and grenade coils, after some prolonged running times, besides being unstable, and hard to control.
   Any ways, he asked what we think about it,  and that was my reply.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15541 on: October 31, 2016, 10:40:41 AM »
For interested industries the goal is:       
1. to use this videos  as  statistical tool to count  that specific targeted public response.
2. to make next step based on previous experience.

Does »this videos« include Accula and Ruslan (etc.) videos also?

The good sign is:

We see FEAR of  specifically involved industries
That FEAR is so eminent in its form , so drastically exposed, by now that it becomes visible.
and that is  a very good sign.

Is that fear eminent because some people in the forums are close to a working device but without knowing it? Then this would require that someone of the »interested industries« exactly knows how such a device works (and that it is possible at all), so they know when someone comes (too) close to the principle.

Then we also have a statistical tool to count: The more strange Kapanadze replication videos emerge, then apparently the closer we are to the solution how the Kapanadze device works.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2016, 02:05:26 PM by Zeitmaschine »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15542 on: October 31, 2016, 11:34:54 AM »
@Hoppy

Do you think the position of his hand affects the IO currents of this device by altering gate signals driving its push-pull circuit ...or in some other manner?

Yes, almost certainly but I would like to see Geo repeat the demo using a battery supply and also to disconnect the push-pull supply during the demo, whilst the Kacher is still running. The system is consuming around 120W according to the average current reading on the ammeter, which is probably about right given the fairly low illumination level of the bulb, which appears brighter on video than it really is.

There may well be other contributing effects, as it appears that the HV from the Kacher is charging the grenade circuits capacitance by using the earth wire as a return back to the PSU. As has been repeatedly said before, these experiments and demos should not be conducted using mains PSU's.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15543 on: October 31, 2016, 12:59:19 PM »
Hoppy I agree: don't leave room for unnecessary doubt.
By following a methodical process whereby most thinkable assumption are eliminated early on a more concrete certainty can be established sooner rather than later. That is why I sat down and built myself a battery powered bench top power supply for experimenting with right off the bat...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15544 on: October 31, 2016, 04:21:12 PM »
5 watt self runner from akula like device. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBq2pQgCdIQ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15545 on: October 31, 2016, 04:47:08 PM »
Hi :)
Ok, let me start....

Hoppy, (all)
I have already shown it Operating with 2x 12Vdc (24V) car batteries and  the effect is still there.
Even when one of the batteries are failing ( starts to give fluffy charge and depletes fast), you can see reduction on output.
There is no difference while working with PSU connected to mains in comparison with batteries about the ground.
This is already shown that there is no mains coming in from ground to this device.
Device is dependent on ions!

One thing I can say is, to get that spot where it manifests for the load, can be so fragile.
There are better tuning spots where there is better output than what I have shown.
but the moment you have bemf merged, it is explosive energy, short the wire it and will burn wires of smaller gauge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OSpeWlR2Qg

What is missing now is Interrupter to make it work better and how it should be done.
Adrian Guska, which is using it and has done it properly recently.

But If you request me to disconnect push-pull while in full swing, sure. no problem,
I have completely nothing to hide, it's in plain sight :)
it would turn out to be the same as when I disconnect kacher circuit from play.
You will hear absolutely nothing,  it would look like the system just died.
Also, that the glare of the bulbs is just slightly a bit over exposed but not to much
but the bulb is bright enough it can hurt your eyes if you stare at it to long, or any other low wattage bulbs.
the PSU was also drivin one time from a UPS power bank. Same results.
The system eats 4-5 amps which I currently have on bench when on correct tuning spot,
when tuning it right to have gain.
There is also another tuning spot where I read about 9 amps in, and very very low lumins on output.
Differences are extreme sometimes.
when doing it all with my PicoScope on laptop that is my oscilloscope.
But to be honest, Synchronization happens how you connect it correctly.
But getting  the Sweet spot for effect is really to be using a scope knowing Fall time and up.

There is one more thing I could share, I have even shown it I guess in earlier recordings.
By adding load ( bulbs ) you can clearly see there is no more intake of amps at input when in full swing.
but there comes a moment where you reach boundary where bulbs starting to go Dim while adding more.
then you know you passed over the Threshold for good loading.
When that occurs you can see when adding more load , the input amps also drop with it.

 
  Nick,
 By using the spectrum analyzer it might give you that reading which it can pick up
but push-pull is ringing on 23-24Khz other spot is 27khz on scope.

Placing my hand around the device sometimes can *Raise output lower amps input* or* Lower output and increase input*.
It all depends on the tuning you have programmed it to be.
You see how I place my hand over the device right? Well, it's always a different spot when tuning it.
sometimes all the way to the right or above the device or in front, or in the back of it.
It's the field which I'm interacting with is not collecting all the Ions, is what my hand is disturbing.
It has odd characteristics..was all for the learning process, but for what I know now is that I still have to tweak certain parts
for it not to be so fragile with moving object which is grounded  near it.
 Collapsing field or vibrating field is necessary.
Yoke will eventually get warm when it's working properly, be reminded it also gets back spikes and have to handle the pressure.
 even when you have warmth on the grenade being generated is sign of production.
Average temp measured was 45-48 degrees celsius, can reach about 50 degrees. on 6th layer grenade within about 10 min run measured with
laser thermometer.

There is still bit more to do and experiment on, I am close but needs very small tweaks still.

Cheerz~

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15546 on: October 31, 2016, 04:58:33 PM »
One thing I can say is, to get that spot where it manifests for the load, can be so fragile.
Are you able to tune it even when the "mediator" transformer is positioned far away from the grenade coil ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15547 on: October 31, 2016, 05:30:26 PM »
Are you able to tune it even when the mediator transformer is positioned far away from the grenade coil ?

Hi Verpies,

Yes I did try,
I have placed the mediator yoke about like 1 meter or more away to see if it does any difference .. but
still the same results. that field is because of Tesla coil influence. nothing els.
You know.. when having the system operating completely, you can hear the mediator yoke and the Push-pull yoke
having the same frequency. ;)

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You can also hear like cracking noices within mediator, just like vibrations.
 when it's working properly with nice loading

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« Reply #15548 on: October 31, 2016, 06:16:20 PM »
You can also hear like cracking noices within mediator, just like vibrations, when it's working properly with nice loading
Can you feel these vibrations with your hand or just ears?

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« Reply #15549 on: October 31, 2016, 06:19:40 PM »
Geo,

Thanks for your comments which I appreciate.

Its clear that the tuning of the system is highly sensitive to hand capacitance and component placement. The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load. The connection of the earth wire is not sucking-in energy from the ground, just improving the impedance match from the grenade to the lamp. I'm satisfied that you have replicated the effects seen on other videos and hope that you progress to a self-runner.

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« Reply #15550 on: October 31, 2016, 06:25:19 PM »
I have placed the mediator yoke about like 1 meter or more away to see if it does any difference .. but
still the same results. that field is because of Tesla coil influence. nothing else.
I was asking because in 2005 two scientists, Konrad and Brudny, have documented an effect that electric field pulses had on some ferrimagnetic materials, causing a variation in their magnetic permeability. 
This was described in an article titled "An Improved Method for Virtual Air Gap Length Computation" in IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 41, No. 10 (10/2005)

Tesla coils, Kachers and other HV pulsers produce such variations in electric field.

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« Reply #15551 on: October 31, 2016, 06:29:06 PM »
The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load.
Not only that, but the removal of a long wire is also a removal of a large inductance from the circuit, that this wire represents, as well as altering the delay of any reflections, that might be happening in the wire acting as a transmission line.

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« Reply #15552 on: October 31, 2016, 06:45:42 PM »
    Geo:
    I find it curious that what the spectrum analyzer is picking up is so different from what you mentioned the scope you used is reading.  Can you show a scope shot, or make a video using the scope, please. 
   I can also show what my scope is reading on my device, as well, and if I can make my yoke sing, I can also compare it with the sound spectrum analyzer. However, at the moment my yoke won't make a sound, most of the time.  I can also make the yoke vibrate strongly, at times as well, especially when magnetite magnets are added to the yoke, which normally does help to increase the output.
   
   The readings that I get on the spectrum analyzer are the ringings from your push-pull, yoke, mediator, etz...  Not from the HV, as that will not make an audible sound.  However, if you are running the push-pull at 25 to 27Khz, you should not be able to hear the tone that I am hearing. That is, your tone sounds lower than 25Khz.  So, I'm curious and hoping that we can discover why there are those differences in frequency readings.
 
   Can you tell us where you think that Adrian has his Kacher's "interuptor"?  As I only see a simple Kacher circuit, like yours or mine.

   It would also be interesting to see how your device reacts if using a short ground line going to a 12v car battery negative rail, instead of the longer ground line. Even though you aren't using the recommended 37.5 meter ground line.
   Ruslan also started with shorter ground lines, then changed to the more expensive 37.5 or 40 meter welding cable for his later builds.

   

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« Reply #15553 on: October 31, 2016, 08:49:15 PM »
Can you feel these vibrations with your hand or just ears?

I was asking because in 2005 two scientists, Konrad and Brudny, have documented an effect that electric field pulses had on some ferrimagnetic materials, causing a variation in their magnetic permeability. 
This was described in an article titled "An Improved Method for Virtual Air Gap Length Computation" in IEEE Transactions on Magnetics, Vol. 41, No. 10 (10/2005)

Tesla coils and other HV pulsers produce such variations in electric field.

yes, You can feel these just like *shockwaves, even if you place a magnet near the mediator or device. not to close.
corresponding to every cracking or tick sound you can hear with your ears, it will create virbrations within.
Interesting Document there verpies, Yes I am very aware in such cases, but never heard of this one in 2005 :)
Virtual Air Gap Length Computation, nice

Electric fields bring sometimes surprises which still amazes me, When two collide they can produce
interesting effects especially when you have 2 or more T. coils within the same SG in a certain arrangement.

Geo,

Thanks for your comments which I appreciate.

Its clear that the tuning of the system is highly sensitive to hand capacitance and component placement. The disconnection of the earth wire on both a mains and battery driven system is considerably changing the impedance of the tuned circuit, resulting in an impedance mismatch to the load. The connection of the earth wire is not sucking-in energy from the ground, just improving the impedance match from the grenade to the lamp. I'm satisfied that you have replicated the effects seen on other videos and hope that you progress to a self-runner.

 Hoppy,
 no problem.
Someone has to do these to make sure of things to be ligit or not.
Now it's to finish this of and make it produce at it's best and self run.
"The last key has been found but now it's to implement and experimented with.
there one video of guska which in fact helped to know what was missing :).
and with help of Arunas getting extra info now from Akula.
 I still don't have it on my board. but seems the mediator is doing partially it's job also.

Cheerz~



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« Reply #15554 on: October 31, 2016, 08:50:37 PM »
    Geo:
    I find it curious that what the spectrum analyzer is picking up is so different from what you mentioned the scope you used is reading.  Can you show a scope shot, or make a video using the scope, please. 
   I can also show what my scope is reading on my device, as well, and if I can make my yoke sing, I can also compare it with the sound spectrum analyzer. However, at the moment my yoke won't make a sound, most of the time.  I can also make the yoke vibrate strongly, at times as well, especially when magnetite magnets are added to the yoke, which normally does help to increase the output.
   
   The readings that I get on the spectrum analyzer are the ringings from your push-pull, yoke, mediator, etz...  Not from the HV, as that will not make an audible sound.  However, if you are running the push-pull at 25 to 27Khz, you should not be able to hear the tone that I am hearing. That is, your tone sounds lower than 25Khz.  So, I'm curious and hoping that we can discover why there are those differences in frequency readings.
 
   Can you tell us where you think that Adrian has his Kacher's "interuptor"?  As I only see a simple Kacher circuit, like yours or mine.

   It would also be interesting to see how your device reacts if using a short ground line going to a 12v car battery negative rail, instead of the longer ground line. Even though you aren't using the recommended 37.5 meter ground line.
   Ruslan also started with shorter ground lines, then changed to the more expensive 37.5 or 40 meter welding cable for his later builds.

   

Hi Nick,
Ok, Well then I will post a pick to show the freq of pushpull snipped from the print screen pic for view.
Yes, the magnetites do increase or decrease depends in what position they are in, twisting them and so.
Well if those ranges are not to be heard, then we wouldn't have heard all that on recording :)
The pic will show you the freq which I measured befor.
There is indeed alot of chaoticness going on between frequencies, but 23-24khz is fed to mosfets pushpull.
Same for the very first round core that was 25.6 khz. and does the squealing on yoke.

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I need to convince you to start using TL494 board for further experimentation.

Adrian's interrupter is on the board. The Kacher is simple, but has a add on...

 Yes ,Also did that with the minus of the battery, it works but not as good as a good earth.
virtual earth will work. but need more experimenting time on that. If good results it can without a earth wire.
but never really tried to hard on that part.
Yeah, not using recommended lenghts for the ground wire,
but did try many lenghts and this one worked for the best up till now
see what  gives the best results,

Wire lenght as for grenade as example 37.5M or 40M wire lenght is because
they know already where to tune the kacher's freq as standert.  Where to tune it properly where the Max peak is to harvest.
Than the wire lenght is decided for the grenade to be coiled to resonate on and harvest everything it can. The Receiver.
They have givin wire lenghts because that is in the ranges that they are working in,
there is even like sergey using 38M grenade for example.
it would be than that it will be the task to know on what to drive the tesla coil on ( voltage & freq) to resonate with the grenade.

cheerz~

 

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