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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718281 times)

Hoppy

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« Reply #14895 on: September 11, 2016, 08:04:34 PM »
Nick, TomTech, Geo,

Guys,

After reviewed a vid from Tom this morning and connected it simular, i ve got alsos kacher effect.
Altough i have 230V bulbs i have also approx. 60V accross 3 bulbs.(Amp ratio would be different from the110V bulbs)

I connected them parrallel accross the series cap grenade to 28T.
Same as you the bulbs light when kacher in "ON".
But what i also see is that similar effect occurs even when inductor coil is not connected.
It seems that there is a lot going on in the yoke.

Perhaps makes it sence to see if your setups also acts in this way?...in other words to find out if the inductor does his job as we are expecting?

Greetings

I have for some time suspected that the Kacher is affecting the operation of the push-pull to increase output to the bulbs, through HV interference. This may be an important step forward, or a blind alley.

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« Reply #14896 on: September 11, 2016, 08:30:31 PM »
I have for some time suspected that the Kacher is affecting the operation of the push-pull to increase output to the bulbs, through HV interference. This may be an important step forward, or a blind alley.
Hi.
I expected that somebody to praise as he also did it of this affair do not forget 1260Watt,in the middle brightness of 4 amps.
Give me the big guys

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« Reply #14897 on: September 11, 2016, 08:42:11 PM »
  That's right Tomtech, but Ruslan did not start that way. And we are just starting to replicate some those same effects now.
   Nor do we have an electronics expert like Oleg, working full time, to create new circuits and different versions for Ruslan.
   Anyways, good to hear that you're still with us.
   Good luck with your current set up, also.

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« Reply #14898 on: September 11, 2016, 08:44:38 PM »
Hi.
I expected that somebody to praise as he also did it of this affair do not forget 1260Watt,in the middle brightness of 4 amps.
Give me the big guys
Any chance you can scribble out the circuit you're trying to describe ? and perhaps you should see if you can display a scope screen shot or two as it all sounds RF induced that could mean the energy could just be rattling bulbs filament into some sort of brilliant action.

AG

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« Reply #14899 on: September 11, 2016, 09:35:06 PM »
Any chance you can scribble out the circuit you're trying to describe ? and perhaps you should see if you can display a scope screen shot or two as it all sounds RF induced that could mean the energy could just be rattling bulbs filament into some sort of brilliant action.

AG
Hi.
no longer want to go back to that used Pll
- but that without it you are able to set the two resonant points to try illuminate most of the number of bulbs?
- and what happens when you set kacher the current phase?
so I ask you because I have already experienced and do not know.


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« Reply #14900 on: September 11, 2016, 09:58:18 PM »
  That's right Tomtech, but Ruslan did not start that way. And we are just starting to replicate some those same effects now.
   Nor do we have an electronics expert like Oleg, working full time, to create new circuits and different versions for Ruslan.
   Anyways, good to hear that you're still with us.
   Good luck with your current set up, also.
you remember the old stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZqHtsc537Y&t=0s
someone repeated the same level I mean just for the effect of these 1260 Watt In this construction  of the coil?
probably have someone tell me that I clung to ...
but most of the Russian reps replicas effects are wasted tests on 500 Watt why not show more ?
and without the effect of strengthening Ou.



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« Reply #14901 on: September 11, 2016, 10:40:10 PM »
  A self runner lighting even only 500w worth of bulbs is not wasted, and can possibly be improved to higher levels, as well. 
  For me the important thing is to find the effect that will lead to self running. One step at a time....

   The "old stuff":
   Ruslan is using those big bulbs, yes, and providing them with only 5 amps, at 24v, from his batteries. However, he is  not lighting those big bulbs very well at all. There is no 1200 watt output on those bulbs on the video, more like 150w in total, if that,  compared to 150w worth of grid powered bulbs. Or not???  Same thing as we are doing now... but to a lesser degree.
   The bigger the load the better the system works, opposite of the normal operations.

   I am working on the TopRuslan version 7, which is using the simple Kacher circuit, but I'm not using the same TL 494 induction circuit, as he is using, as yet.

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« Reply #14902 on: September 12, 2016, 08:16:28 AM »
  A self runner lighting even only 500w worth of bulbs is not wasted, and can possibly be improved to higher levels, as well. 
  For me the important thing is to find the effect that will lead to self running. One step at a time....

   The "old stuff":
   Ruslan is using those big bulbs, yes, and providing them with only 5 amps, at 24v, from his batteries. However, he is  not lighting those big bulbs very well at all. There is no 1200 watt output on those bulbs on the video, more like 150w in total, if that,  compared to 150w worth of grid powered bulbs. Or not???  Same thing as we are doing now... but to a lesser degree.
   The bigger the load the better the system works, opposite of the normal operations.

   I am working on the TopRuslan version 7, which is using the simple Kacher circuit, but I'm not using the same TL 494 induction circuit, as he is using, as yet.
we do not have the shots range of push pull ,over these fragments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZlJjT4IwUo
but one of the sample with the firing of said upper and lower wave for me it is incomprehensible talking about a standing wave
This link can throw someone picks up the information you need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTOrWiQ1rJ4
this range also says little:
useful for any help.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14903 on: September 12, 2016, 07:41:44 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14904 on: September 12, 2016, 08:00:59 PM »
 
   The "old stuff":
   Ruslan is using those big bulbs, yes, and providing them with only 5 amps, at 24v, from his batteries. However, he is  not lighting those big bulbs very well at all. There is no 1200 watt output on those bulbs on the video, more like 150w in total, if that,  compared to 150w worth of grid powered bulbs. Or not???  Same thing as we are doing now... but to a lesser degree.
   The bigger the load the better the system works, opposite of the normal operations.


Nick,

Please read back on posts about impedance matching as your statement: 'the bigger the load the better the system works, opposite of the normal operations' is very misleading.

Also, a device pulling 5A at 24V cannot consume a total of 150W. Do you intend to find out what current your device pulls?


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« Reply #14905 on: September 12, 2016, 09:07:50 PM »
   Hoppy: 
   At this time I'm not concerned about what the system is pulling, or outputting,  maybe I'll do that later.
   As I've mentioned, I'm looking for the best sync at the moment which will lead to self running.  Not input to output readings.
  Attaching the scope across the bulbs output will affect the readings. So, even my mentioned readings of my 60 to 80 volts output at the bulbs, may not be accurate, at all.
  I don't know what Ruslan is doing or showing, all I can see is what his amp meter is showing, 5 amps, using two 12v batteries, running in series to 24v.  So, ok his lamps MAY not be consuming the estimated brightness of 150w, more like less than 120w, or so.  OK?
  If he would place a 100w bulb lit off of the grid next to his set up. We CAN SEE which gives the most lumins. The single 100w bulb is where I'd place my bet on.

   After working on this device for as long as I have, don't you think that I know and also remember about the discussions on impedance matching?
   I've shown on my videos how the voltage goes up when more bulbs are added, and not down as would normally be expected.
However, voltage readings are what may be misleading, when running my device. I'm just reporting what I see, and not making any judgements on it.
   The Kacher's output to the grenade also goes up, drawing more current from the induction circuit, when more bulbs are added.

  Using the big 500w bulbs would of course change things, impedance wise. But, I haven't been able to find any of those bulbs here yet. As the grid source here is 120v, but, I do have 120v 250w bulb, which I can not get to light on the induction circuits, yet, but it will partially light off of the Kacher's output.
   You can decide if this is misleading, or not.  I'm just working toward a self runner,  and not trying to make any statements, other than to show my findings.
 

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« Reply #14906 on: September 12, 2016, 09:40:28 PM »
   Hoppy: 
   
  I don't know what Ruslan is doing or showing, all I can see is what his amp meter is showing, 5 amps, using two 12v batteries, running in series to 24v.  So, ok his lamps MAY not be consuming the estimated brightness of 150w, more like less than 120w, or so.  OK?
 
   After working on this device for as long as I have, don't you think that I know and also remember about the discussions on impedance matching?
   I've shown on my videos how the voltage goes up when more bulbs are added, and not down as would normally be expected.
 

Nick,

The max is 120W for 5A at 24V but the power consumption is split between the generators and the load, so yes less, as there cannot possibly be a total of 120W consumed by the load.

Your only indication of abnormality will be when your device self runs without a power supply. You will never know whether the device is running abnormally all the time its running off a power supply and no proper measurements are being carried out. Think carefully about this because its very misleading and not necessarily true to state that the voltage increase is abnormal.

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« Reply #14907 on: September 12, 2016, 10:27:48 PM »
Nick,

Please read back on posts about impedance matching as your statement: 'the bigger the load the better the system works, opposite of the normal operations' is very misleading.

Also, a device pulling 5A at 24V cannot consume a total of 150W. Do you intend to find out what current your device pulls?
I tried to adjust the capacitance of the capacitor to the circuit LC 28T parallel to the coil circuit grenade and the balance part of the load in the best degree it is under the sign "lemon" :D (nothing else appears on the oscilloscope)
I'd did not offended as I achieve a better result ?
and do not get angry as it does not matter what I am doing
- I am looking for a way to this part of the settings ( also wanted to find out what voltage is present on those of his 1260 Watt)
so to me it seems that in these areas 60V.
I had only 1,000 Watt but now I see that the voltage drops and other settings current rise
here is nothing appellant test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXvvML9a06E
but grabbed the high voltage circuit I will try to Repeat effect Geo
I have to make a few repairs in the circuit or quite different pulse  controller.
Nickz  I keep my fingers crossed that with you improved performance


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« Reply #14908 on: September 12, 2016, 10:32:35 PM »
  I never said that the voltage raising with additional bulbs is "abnormal".  Just that is not what I expected, nor have I seen it do this previously, nor compared to a normal 12v inverter. 
  I'll be more careful with my wording, but I didn't think that this was any indication of anything abnormal. Just different than what I've been seeing. As "normally" each additional high wattage bulb drops the voltage, which again, in this case voltage does not mean much, by itself.

   Tomtech: The reason that most of the other replications are not showing a higher loading than 500w, is probably because their system can't light more than 500w worth of bulbs.  Geo could not light his big bulbs, at first, and Itsu could not light bulbs very bright, either, if I'm not mistaken.
 But, as accurate measurements are not so easy to understand on these devices, self running is the only results worth considering. Otherwise we have only made an inefficient inverter.

  I could not obtain the same result when connecting the load to the grenade output coil, at the 0.1uf series cap. Nor at the rectifer on the 28t coil circuit.  The 3 turns coil connection to the bulbs, give me the best sync results. Connection to the 28t coil is stronger, as expected as it has more windings, but when turning on the Kacher, it did not improve the brightness of the bulbs.

   apecore: Yes, disconnecting the 3t coil makes no difference. But, only when you are drawing the load from the grenade's output coil, instead of the 3t coil at the capacitor. As only the grenade's output coil is working, then.  So, no surprise, but I get no additional brightness at the bulb, or sync from the Kacher by connecting it up that way.  How about you?
 
 
 

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« Reply #14909 on: September 12, 2016, 11:43:36 PM »
  I never said that the voltage raising with additional bulbs is "abnormal".  Just that is not what I expected, nor have I seen it do this previously, nor compared to a normal 12v inverter. 
  I'll be more careful with my wording, but I didn't think that this was any indication of anything abnormal. Just different than what I've been seeing. As "normally" each additional high wattage bulb drops the voltage, which again, in this case voltage does not mean much, by itself.

   Tomtech: The reason that most of the other replications are not showing a higher loading than 500w, is probably because their system can't light more than 500w worth of bulbs.  Geo could not light his big bulbs, at first, and Itsu could not light bulbs very bright, either, if I'm not mistaken.
 But, as accurate measurements are not so easy to understand on these devices, self running is the only results worth considering. Otherwise we have only made an inefficient inverter.

  I have the answer now, thanks ( set 500 Watt was not accidental) so accepted.
what he says about his Pll him that something stabilizes what?
something's not right here
His words say: Resonance is in place When attaches maximum load
- how it translates into practice ?
Who will explain it to me what is needed is a phase lock I played it a little bit and I wonder if it meets its purpose as will more has the HV.
Then there are moments to maintain frequency in check
 at this stage for me to not exercised and I do not know if it's a bug in my design of this system or badly to come up.
what does it all depends ?
where is the first step if any :D
cool not given up  yet.