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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11201172 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14040 on: May 01, 2016, 02:06:19 AM »
The pulser did not like the open ended coax, it blew the IGBT (all 3 leads shorted) and toke the 250V driver circuit (ir2153 and 2x irf540) with it.
A new IGBT is in, as an ir2153.    Tomorrow i will replace the both irf540's.
This reminded me to my initial plan to insert a fast fuse in the 250V supply line  ::)
Itsu

Hi Itsu. Crikey, that was a bad break.
Maybe you can try driving the coax with whatever termination on its end that you are planning to test
with directly with your signal generator first, and monitor the signal generator output voltage
at the input to the coax to see how much it is loading down the output of the signal generator.
If it is loading down the signal generator output a lot, then that may be a configuration to avoid using
with the pulser. A 50 ohm resistor on any length of 50 ohm coax should like like 50 ohms resistive load at the
input to the coax, but the open circuit and short circuit at the end of the coax are transformed into a
different impedance depending on the length of coax and frequency you are testing at. Doing the signal
generator test should give you some indication of what kind of load the pulser will see if it were connected
instead of the signal generator directly. Just an idea... I wonder if the input to your coax winding with the open
circuit end looks like a very low impedance at its input at that length and frequency, or if the problem was that it
is a very reactive impedance which maybe your pulser did not like.... You should be able to get some idea about that by
trying the signal generator test, if you are interested in trying it. 




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14041 on: May 01, 2016, 07:26:19 PM »
Hi Itsu. Actually, come to think about it, I guess at about 15 kHz a coax length of
only 8 meters is probably not going to do much of an impedance transform. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14042 on: May 01, 2016, 09:48:28 PM »
I told you so  :'(

A bidirectional TVS diode that clamps the collector to emitter closely to the IGBT's maximum rated voltage, might have prevented this disaster.
Also, this is a lesson that D1 should have higher maximum ratings.

Finally, if I were you, I'd put the fuse in series with L1.



We are back in business, parts are replaced, and some tests done.

I have changed the 1n4148 (at the gate of the IGBT) for a Bat46 and added a fuse in series with L1
The D1 diode (600V same as the IGBT) did survive.

I omitted the "coax open end" test to avoid further damage for now.

I did do the "50 Ohm termination at the end of the coax" test and redid the "shorted coax" test, see screenshots below.

When adding a 100 Ohm trimmer potmeter to the begin of the coax with the far end being shorted, it initially showed (collector voltage half way at 130V) the same
signal as the "shorted coax" signal (pot halfway) but when turning a few turns the peak suddenly doubled so i stopped.
The potmeter measured to be in hundreds of KOhms now, so probably was fried, basically presenting an open (or high ohm) load.
Guess i need a somewhat sturdier potmeter instead of the trimmer pot used now.




Void,  thanks for your insights, but yes, the 8 meter coax at 15KHz will not present much of an impedance transformation.


Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14043 on: May 01, 2016, 10:12:24 PM »

Updated diagram,

changed D3 from 1n4148 to Bat46
added D4 (18V tvs).
added F1 (5A fast fuse)
added dots to T1

Itsu


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14044 on: May 01, 2016, 10:17:53 PM »
Updated diagram, ...


Thanks Itsu.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14045 on: May 01, 2016, 11:49:43 PM »
When adding a 100 Ohm trimmer potmeter to the begin of the coax with the far end being shorted, it initially showed (collector voltage half way at 130V) the same signal as the "shorted coax" signal (pot halfway) but when turning a few turns the peak suddenly doubled so i stopped.
The potmeter measured to be in hundreds of KOhms now, so probably was fried, basically presenting an open (or high ohm) load.
Guess i need a somewhat sturdier potmeter instead of the trimmer pot used now.
There is always the time-consuming method of soldering series and parallel resistors instead of using the pot.
I was really counting on the results of this experiment (all reflections disappearing except the first one)

the 8 meter coax at 15KHz will not present much of an impedance transformation.
Most of the energy contained in this 15kHz train of pulses is not at 15kHz !
The SA will show you the truth

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14046 on: May 02, 2016, 09:43:26 PM »
I used a range of fixed series resistors from 5, 12, 22, 32, 51, 68, 100 Ohm with the collector voltage on 130V.

See the attached .doc file for the screenshots, the first one is without any series resistor, so 0 Ohm.
Yellow signal is the HV probe across the DSR diode.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14047 on: May 02, 2016, 11:12:07 PM »
I lowered the series LC circuit (inductor / wima caps) resonance by adding a 0.15 and a 0.1uF cap (total capacitance now  1.19uF) from 17.7 to 15.8KHz
to be in the range of my nano pulser repetition frequency.

I synced the nano-pulser to the Push pull driver (TL494) instead of the FG.

I scoped across the wima caps while in resonance (15.8KHz) to see what impact the nano pulse (1.5KV @ 12ns) would have on that signal.

The screenshot says it all, not very much!

Reversing the pulse on the coax (so pulse on outer shield) did not change that.

I will see if shifting the pulse compared to the sine wave (± 90°) has any effect.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14048 on: May 03, 2016, 03:02:09 AM »
The screenshot says it all, not very much!

Darn, that's a bit depressing.  I was really hoping your much improved test fixture (over Dally's) would show us the way.

So we're not back all the way to square one, but we are certainly missing something.  Any ideas as to what?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14049 on: May 03, 2016, 09:10:05 AM »
So we're not back all the way to square one, but we are certainly missing something.  Any ideas as to what?

Missing that Dally device was fake from day one perhaps? Why should one dismantle his working OU device three days after presentation without taking any measurements and never show something like it again?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14050 on: May 03, 2016, 09:41:15 AM »
Missing that Dally device was fake from day one perhaps? Why should one dismantle his working OU device three days after presentation without taking any measurements and never show something like it again?

Yes thats strange,  but before we start again the "fake" discussion.

But do we have a theory about how the system should must work?
And can we figure out why Itsu don´t get big nano spikes in his grenade-inductor coil?
Do we get different results with karcher systems and is this explainable in Itsu's situation

Is it possible to put those two systems next to each other and figure out the aspects as mentioned above?

I' m asking this because it would be frustated if someone starts again building from scrap, without getting the current nowledge about the issue's we run into.
I think Itsu is getting right on track also in the way he presents his setup and results.

Greetings
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14051 on: May 03, 2016, 11:16:33 AM »
But do we have a theory about how the system should must work?
There are two competing theories:
1) Energy from Aether obtained by shaking it.
2) Energy from matter by alignment and resonance of its nuclei.

I do not understand the first one so I cannot even advise him how to meet all the necessary conditions to obtain it.
I understand the second one, and according to that understanding he is missing three factors necessary to obtain it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14052 on: May 03, 2016, 11:18:02 AM »
I used a range of fixed series resistors from 5, 12, 22, 32, 51, 68, 100 Ohm with the collector voltage on 130V.
This is not what I expected to see.  Most likely the probe position is wrong.

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« Reply #14053 on: May 03, 2016, 11:25:46 AM »
And can we figure out why Itsu don´t get big nano spikes in his grenade-inductor coil?
Perhaps because his little nano spikes are not supposed to be just transferred efficiently to the LC circuit, but are supposed to cause different and larger nano spikes elswhere, some microseconds later ...but they don't because other conditions are not met.

The coiled coax forms a bifilar self-cancelling winding which is not the best winding for efficient coupling of these nanospikes by induction.  I am surprised that they "leak out" of the coax at all.

Do we get different results with karcher systems and is this explainable in Itsu's situation
The results are hard to compare due to the lack of proper measurements but I do see a commonality between the "Kacher" and the nanopulser - namely they both generate dense spectra of wide range of frequencies.  Dense spectrum is an essential requirement for the Modus Operandi #2.

Is it possible to put those two systems next to each other and figure out the aspects as mentioned above?
Yes, but only if you have willing owners of two of such working systems. AFAIK these people are not very cooperative.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14054 on: May 03, 2016, 12:04:09 PM »
I synced the nano-pulser to the Push pull driver (TL494) instead of the FG.
I will see if shifting the pulse compared to the sine wave (± 90°) has any effect.
How did you synch it?
Is the phase shift between the sinewave and the nanopulse, smoothly adjustable between 0º and 90º in your circuit ?