Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11201084 times)

T-1000 · « **Reply #14025 on:** April 30, 2016, 12:20:06 AM »

Quote from: verpies on April 30, 2016, 12:06:01 AM

@Itsu

At the risk of being yelled at by Nick and other Aether aficionados, I'd like to suggest that you put a fuel rod (an iron or copper pipe/rod) inside the grenade and run some current ALONG it, while bringing large permanent magnets nearby, because I think that there might be something similar to the diagram below where your nanopulser and coax can take the place of the the 500VAC RF amplifier.

Support structure and low reluctance path are too much work so if you skip them you can hope that a strong magnet can make up for its absence and the 0.5T polarizing coil.

From Aether to NMR is not the best case either unless proven by the actual test on Kapanadze style device.
I could also throw in theory about energy from standing wave which contain magnetic component in one side and electric field component in another but won't claim until will have experimental device self-running on the table.
Will see on facts over time what exactly is going on there..

Cheers!

verpies · « **Reply #14026 on:** April 30, 2016, 12:24:33 AM »

Quote from: T-1000 on April 30, 2016, 12:20:06 AM

From Aether to NMR...

Arunas!

Must have you used the scary N word !?

T-1000 · « **Reply #14027 on:** April 30, 2016, 01:09:20 AM »

Quote from: verpies on April 30, 2016, 12:24:33 AM

Arunas!

Must have you used the scary N word !?

This what device in your picture attachment was meant for.

apecore · « **Reply #14028 on:** April 30, 2016, 03:43:22 AM »

Quote from: d3x0r on April 29, 2016, 07:13:02 AM

@itsu if this continues very far, should start another thread.. BUT.

So, just for grins, one could at 15khz put a tesla primary to the impulse generator? and run it at low hertz... wasn't it very low frequencies tesla said he saw aura around coil? (Not bright sparks, but more ambient... aura)
secondary should be highly insulated?? At 1.5kv input you're already going to be sparking if it was a 1:1 ratio?

D3xor,
You mean putting the 15khz puls by the impulsgenerator at the tesla primairy? Instead of generating the nanopuls separatly?

Guys,

Just for clarification

Isn' t this a good remark instead in case off all the effort itsu is doing at the nano pulsing?
Not saying that it won't work what Itsu is doing...but we must always open for new approaches.
So what is the opinion of the well known hero member in this?
Can someone give his reasson why this it is not worth experimenting?

Itsu,.. what is your opinion about this idea?
Is the impulspower as configured additional needed?

wattsup · « **Reply #14029 on:** April 30, 2016, 09:56:07 AM »

@itsu shows the outer coax center solid line and outer shield are connected together so the outer shield now becomes part of the coupled line.

There is no general diagram to follow but if I understood @itsu's two videos, the inside coil of the grenade is the one being pulsed while the outer is the coupled output. There are always two sides to a pulsed coil, one side that is permanently connected (PC) and the side being pulsed (BP). What is not evident is which of the two inner coil lines is being pulsed, the center line or the outer shield. I would hope it is the outer shield being pulsed since it is closer to the outer coil being induced.

But at pulse on, that polarity enters the pulsed coil for a small period of time, which induces the first spike rise in the outer coil. When the pulse is off (for a longer period of time in one cycle) the pulsed coils PC side reclaims the polarity introduced by the BP at pulse on and the outer coax coil sees this additional change as the trailing lines on the scope. If you scope the pulsed coil you should see a very nice negative flyback (if the positive is pulsed) or a positive flyback (if the negative is pulsed).

The many waves in the off time is the result of having connected the two conductors of the outer induced coil , center and shield together so you have induced then cancelled conditions. I would open that connection and put a load there instead to see that output would have less cancellation.

Also it would be very advantageous if the center pulsed coax was in series with a good length of wire on an air core set beside that coax coil to increase that flyback. The length of wire on that added air core coil should be at least the length of the inner coax being pulsed. It should be in series with the PC side. I think this is why many of these devices have these air coils added as what I call Slave Coils. They permit the totality of the pulsed coil to change instead of only half of the coil.

wattsup

itsu · « **Reply #14030 on:** April 30, 2016, 12:07:13 PM »

Quote from: verpies on April 29, 2016, 11:38:34 PM

That's to be expected. 80ns is the round-trip time. Multiple reflections of progressively lower amplitude should follow the first reflected pulse, because the nanopulser apparently has lower than 50Ω output impedance and it re-reflects the reflected pulse coming back from the far end ...and they do.
What is the actual length of the coax?

It would be nice to see non-inverted reflections from an open-ended coax, too.
That is a little weird because there are quiet periods between the reflected pulses in the coax but no quiet periods in the grenade output, so it is not an exact copy of that signal (thus not only a direct coupling) so something else is going on, too.

Also, the 60V_p-p inductive/capactive coupling from a shorted coax to inductor/grenade is weird in itself. I'd like to read a physical explanation of that. I hope I will not read "leaky coax" or "scalar waves" ...err "pseudoscalar waves"

I had a stretch of 20m coax and used just what i could put onto that 9cm diameter former around the grenade, so i did not measure it upfront.
But the 9cm former should have a circumference of 28cm, so times 27 turns gives 7m56, plus the 50cm to the nano-pulser adds up to 8m indeed.

I will do some "open end" and 50 Ohm terminated tests later today.

I do have an pure iron rod (98%) which i could use, so i keep your suggestion in mind.

Itsu

itsu · « **Reply #14031 on:** April 30, 2016, 12:15:42 PM »

Quote from: apecore on April 30, 2016, 03:43:22 AM

D3xor,
You mean putting the 15khz puls by the impulsgenerator at the tesla primairy? Instead of generating the nanopuls separatly?

Guys,

Just for clarification

Isn' t this a good remark instead in case off all the effort itsu is doing at the nano pulsing?
Not saying that it won't work what Itsu is doing...but we must always open for new approaches.
So what is the opinion of the well known hero member in this?
Can someone give his reasson why this it is not worth experimenting?

Itsu,.. what is your opinion about this idea?
Is the impulspower as configured additional needed?

Hi Apecore,

the present thread initially was dealing with the Dally replication (hence its name), who used a nano-pulser to "disturb" the reactive power created by
a resonant LC circuit and kick it into real power (my interpretation).

Lateron, Akula and Ruslan replaced the nano-pulser by a kacher to create those HV RF (nano??) pulses, but as i have bad experience with kacher like devices
i do not want to use them.

As also Ruslan has shown a "working" self-running device using a nano-pulser, it should be possible to replicate it, so therefor my attempt.

Itsu

itsu · « **Reply #14032 on:** April 30, 2016, 12:28:25 PM »

Quote from: wattsup on April 30, 2016, 09:56:07 AM

@itsu shows the outer coax center solid line and outer shield are connected together so the outer shield now becomes part of the coupled line.

There is no general diagram to follow but if I understood @itsu's two videos, the inside coil of the grenade is the one being pulsed while the outer is the coupled output. There are always two sides to a pulsed coil, one side that is permanently connected (PC) and the side being pulsed (BP). What is not evident is which of the two inner coil lines is being pulsed, the center line or the outer shield. I would hope it is the outer shield being pulsed since it is closer to the outer coil being induced.

But at pulse on, that polarity enters the pulsed coil for a small period of time, which induces the first spike rise in the outer coil. When the pulse is off (for a longer period of time in one cycle) the pulsed coils PC side reclaims the polarity introduced by the BP at pulse on and the outer coax coil sees this additional change as the trailing lines on the scope. If you scope the pulsed coil you should see a very nice negative flyback (if the positive is pulsed) or a positive flyback (if the negative is pulsed).

The many waves in the off time is the result of having connected the two conductors of the outer induced coil , center and shield together so you have induced then cancelled conditions. I would open that connection and put a load there instead to see that output would have less cancellation.

Also it would be very advantageous if the center pulsed coax was in series with a good length of wire on an air core set beside that coax coil to increase that flyback. The length of wire on that added air core coil should be at least the length of the inner coax being pulsed. It should be in series with the PC side. I think this is why many of these devices have these air coils added as what I call Slave Coils. They permit the totality of the pulsed coil to change instead of only half of the coil.

wattsup

Wattsup,

The shorted coax cable is pulsed on the inner coax line and reflected back after 40ns due to the short, so no cancelation should occure.
As it was a first test, i will try different settings, like pulsing the outer line which will probably show (i think) more transfer to the underlying coils.

But it should be noted that this (nano-pulsing a coax) is the initial Dally setup as from the beginning of this thread, and i suppose that Dally made some extensive
tests as to what would give the best results for his self-runner, so therefor my same setup for now.

One possible reason for the transfer to the underlying coils could be as verpies mentioned "leaky coax" as very probably this RG58 coax was not meant to be used
to receive 1.5KV @ 10ns pulses.

Thanks for your suggestions, Itsu

verpies · « **Reply #14033 on:** April 30, 2016, 01:12:12 PM »

Quote from: itsu on April 30, 2016, 12:07:13 PM

I will do some "open end" and 50 Ohm terminated tests later today.

Please consider adding another termination test to the set, because it will discover the output impedance of the nanopulser, which is unknown but interesting IMO.

Namely, keep the end of the coax shorted but drive it through a 100Ω pot in series (placed between the nanopulser and the beginning of the coax).
Adjust the pot until only 2 pulses remain on the scope (the stimulating pulse and the pulse reflected 80ns later from the shorted end of the coax).
Disconnect the pot and measure its DC resistance. Subtract the intrinsic impedance of the coax from this DC resistance in order to obtain the output impedance of the nanopulser.

You can also repeat the above test with the far end of the coax opened.

GeoFusion · « **Reply #14034 on:** April 30, 2016, 05:27:21 PM »

Quote from: Void on April 29, 2016, 11:38:15 PM

@Geo:
Nice video. I am not clear where you have the 'mediator' coil connected to which is wound on the other yoke core.
What are the two wires on your mediator coil connected to?
I hope you were wearing some shoes when making this video.

Hi Void

,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhblojKdU4Y

Thank you for the reply, It's so simple! Void

follow the wire and I have it on a diagram I have posted a while ago!
which two wire are you referring too?
I had no shoes Installed around my feet

, Hard core style.
But yes need to be careful with that voltage it's deadly at output.

Itsu

,
Awesome work man, Great results

! The nano pulser is something! love it but now need to know how to mediate it together for the system to work!
If you look back At Dally's diagram, you can see he was also using mediator

.
Laat mij weten wanneer je hulp nodig hebt, Ik ben er

.
Er is veel maar soms is er iet's heel kleins maar we zien het niet maar ik can help aandienen

Bekijk die video Itsu

, mischien zal un ligje gaan branden

Cheerz~

itsu · « **Reply #14035 on:** April 30, 2016, 05:45:11 PM »

Thanks Geo,

i looked at your video's, the RF effect is amazing, it must have something to do with your wrapping together the wires instead of soldering them,
the use of clipleads and off course a good ground, which i lack here.

Thanks for your offer to help (in Dutch, which is very good by the way), but i will do some further tests with the pulser first and hook up the whole
system to see if there is any effect from the nano-pulser visible on the series LC sine wave when in resonance.

I am also working on a PLL driven TL494 system designed by verpies to stabilize the resonance, so lots to do.

Keep it comming, regards (groeten) Itsu

Hoppy · « **Reply #14036 on:** April 30, 2016, 06:42:51 PM »

Hi Geo,

Any chance of seeing your setup running off a battery supply?

Void · « **Reply #14037 on:** April 30, 2016, 10:18:39 PM »

Quote from: GeoFusion on April 30, 2016, 05:27:21 PM

Thank you for the reply, It's so simple! Void follow the wire and I have it on a diagram I have posted a while ago!
which two wire are you referring too?
I had no shoes Installed around my feet , Hard core style.
But yes need to be careful with that voltage it's deadly at output.

Hi Geo. It may be obvious to you how you have the wires connected, but it is not always so easy for
a video viewer to be sure where wires are connected.

I love how many people assume that because they
know where their hay wires are going that everyone watching just can easily see that too.

Anyway, no worries. I was just curious what the wires from your 'mediator coil' were connected to.

When you have bare feet on concrete your feet are pretty well connected to ground, so if you happen to touch
a live wire (or live heat sink

) you can easily get current flowing right through your body. It doesn't take much
current (low mA) flowing across a person's heart area to potentially stop a person' s heart. When your feet are
pretty well grounded, that is more of a risk. It's also for this reason that TV repairmen had a safety rule to keep
one hand in their pocket when working inside a live TV, as this reduces the chance of current flowing across the
chest from arm to arm if one hand touches a live wire, and the other hand is touching some form of ground or low potential
(if not in a person's pocket more safely out of the way).
No yoke.

P.S. A few comments on your video. When you tune the tesla coil/kacher frequency close to a resonance frequency on the
grenade and then turn on both the PWM and kacher at the same time, the two signals should add together to some degree
in the grenade to give a higher output than when just having one or the other turned on alone. That in itself is not unexpected.
However, if you turn them both on at the same time and you suddenly can easily light say two or three 100W light bulbs
very brightly with no corresponding increase in input current draw, then you may possibly be entering into OU territory.
From what I have seen in your latest video, based on the input current draw shown on your ammeter, it is not looking to me
like your output is higher than the input power draw. The approx. 4.5A at 24V would seem to accommodate the brightness of
the light bulbs you had connected, closely enough.

itsu · « **Reply #14038 on:** April 30, 2016, 11:18:39 PM »

The pulser did not like the open ended coax, it blew the IGBT (all 3 leads shorted) and toke the 250V driver circuit (ir2153 and 2x irf540) with it.
A new IGBT is in, as an ir2153. Tomorrow i will replace the both irf540's.

This reminded me to my initial plan to insert a fast fuse in the 250V supply line

Itsu

verpies · « **Reply #14039 on:** April 30, 2016, 11:25:42 PM »

I told you so

Quote from: verpies on April 28, 2016, 05:18:15 AM

I don't remember what Dally did to the end of the coax, but if I were experimenting I would start with a properly terminated end and if that did not work then I would try a shorted and an open end, because I would be afraid that the reflected pulse would come back and blow up my pulser...

A bidirectional TVS diode that clamps the collector to emitter closely to the IGBT's maximum rated voltage, might have prevented this disaster.
Also, this is a lesson that D1 should have higher maximum ratings.

Finally, if I were you, I'd put the fuse in series with L1.

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