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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 9301661 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12735 on: March 14, 2016, 11:21:31 PM »
Geo, Nick, All:
 I breadboarded a standard kacher driver circuit and powered a small tesla coil with
quite a lot of turns on it at 12V. My kacher circuit was drawing about 0.55A unloaded to about
0.65 A to 0.7 A when trying to light different kinds of light bulbs, so the kacher circuit was drawing
about 6.6 watts to 8.4 watts or so. Yes, my circuit was a quick and dirty aligator clip lead special,
but it seemed to be working well enough even with all those long aligator clip leads.  ;D

Powering the kacher circuit at about 6.6 watts with that particular tesla coil winding was giving
about a 6 or 7 mm corona streamer into the air off the end of the wire at the high voltage end (top) of the tesla coil.
The corona streamer can be seen in the attached picture of my circuit layout, if you look closely. :)
With that kind of streamer going off into the air, I imagine the voltage the tesla coil was producing must have
been 2 or 3 kilovolts at the least.

This setup had no problem lighting a small fluorescent bulb, but I could not get it to light up even a
small 5 watt incandescent bulb sitting on a sheet of aluminum foil taped to a piece of cardboard.
Not sure how that guy lit that larger incandescent bulb in that video, unless maybe he was running at
a higher power level or his tesla coil was producing a lot higher voltage. Anyway, with my setup and 12V input
voltage, the 5 watt incandescent light bulb would not even light up a little bit, but maybe I was doing something
different than in the video.

Edit:
Maybe the guy in the video was driving the tesla coil primary with a pulse train, rather than using something
like a kacher driver circuit? If so, then that would seem to be a much better way to go than an ordinary kacher
driver circuit. :)

P.S. The video where the guy was lighting the incandescent light bulb by holding it against a shovel near
the end of the tesla coil can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP5FiCbLu5M
« Last Edit: March 15, 2016, 01:54:11 AM by Void »

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12736 on: March 15, 2016, 01:08:38 AM »
hi everyone
check out this circuit and see the video link
maybe this could be the last thing we can try to get free energy.
the video does not belong to me.
But i have made circuit based on the video ,i would like some one to try this circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K3HrhH5Qrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUF7eJAOjF4

It looks as if he has gone to a lot of trouble to hide his work I don't think he is going to give much away !

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12737 on: March 15, 2016, 02:02:33 AM »
Thinking about my experiment described above a little further, it may be that to get
some sort of OU effect out of a tesla coil you need to be driving it with some sort of
very short duration pulses, possibly in a pulse train grouping, rather than trying to run a
tesla coil as a resonant transformer, like a kacher driver (a type of blocking oscillator) does.

@Magpwr, do you have a circuit that creates shorter duration pulses in a pulse train out of a
longer duration pulse, for use in driving a tesla coil? Is that what you mean by your 'Sergey transponder
circuit', which I think you have mentioned here previously?


Offline Dog-One

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12738 on: March 15, 2016, 02:36:44 AM »
Very good mr.  Dog1 !
You get closer and closer.  ;)
I'm happy to see someone start to see the light.

I could say, "Why didn't someone just tell me this to start with?"

To be completely honest, I think each one of us has to play detective and follow the evidence wherever it leads.  Some may get their answer sooner than others.


Where things become blurry to me is considering a single component that offers three pieces of functionality:
  1.  It is an inductor.
  2.  It is capacitor.
  3.  It is a mixing component that has a definite output mechanism.

The third part is where things get tricky.  The mixing must happen via superposition only.  It cannot interfere with parts one and two--these must behave as though their counterpart does not exist.  So one might be inclined to base their design on using part one (inductor) and just providing a secondary making this component a transformer.  The question is, where then are the two capacitor plates?  And do they interfere with the inductor?

If we assume superposition is the principal mechanism allowing this device to operate as intended, can each tank circuit be adequately tuned and synchronized?  Is it necessary for the frequencies of each tank circuit to run at some harmonic or can the base frequency of each be perfectly matched?  The latter method seems to me to be most optimal unless there are physical constraints in doing so.  These constraints may include:
  a.  too small of capacitance for part two
  b.  Q factor too flat for optimal resonance
  c.  phase shift uncontrollable or non-deterministic


Bottom line is to have a procedure in-place that will allow for adjustments until the principal is obtained, goal met; then check validity of this principal as a key basis for operation.  A lot of work to do for sure.  We have examples to work from, but if we understand what it is we are really trying to do, it's possible "the effect" will begin to manifest for many of us; then we will know we are on the right track.


Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12739 on: March 15, 2016, 02:59:35 AM »
Hi guys/mensch/парни,

Something possibly worth noting is that a kacher driver can be adjusted to produce
a short pulse train of sorts at the collector of the BJT. My kacher driver was only drawing
0.2 amps at 12 volts when adjusted to operate this way. So far I still am not able to light
the 5 watt incandescent bulb however. :) See the attached scope screen shot to see how a kacher
driver circuit can be adjusted to produce a short burst of pulses (of a sort) for each cycle.
The pulses on the collector don't fully drop down right to 0V between each pulse however.


@Dog-One: After conducting a lot of experiments in the last several weeks, I think it might
not be quite so straight-forward. Something to think about is the energy that causes the OU
would have to come from somewhere. I could well be wrong, and mixing a high current waveform
and a high voltage waveform at the right phase angle might well be crucial, but something still has to
draw in the extra energy from where ever.

I conducted a bunch of tests of mixing current and voltage waveforms at different phase angles using some
different winding configurations in the last few weeks, and although I saw some potentially interesting
results, it seems there may still be more to it than just that. That is why I am starting to switch my focus over to
the way the tesla coil is driven. That may possibly be where the OU part gets initiated. The mixing in the output coil may
be where this extra energy that is drawn in is combined into the output waveform. This is just an idea however.
There are a few different possibilities that I have been and am still considering. :)


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12740 on: March 15, 2016, 04:00:21 AM »
@Void: the guy in the video lighting the incandescent bulb is holding the outer terminal (the screw part) with his fingers. This provides a capacitively-coupled ground return path through (or rather over) his body. The reason your bulb isn't lighting is because you don't have this return path.

Not quite the same thing, here I don't have both sides capacitively coupled, but the principle is the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDh8sTc8Kw

I used to do a demonstration using my big SGTC where I would take the secondary discharge into a wrench held in one hand, and with the other hand I'd take a 25 watt incandescent bulb, held by the screw part, and touch the center terminal to an innocent bystander. The bulb would light up fully, yet neither I nor the other person would feel a shock.

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12741 on: March 15, 2016, 04:11:33 AM »
   Void, and All:
   What I'm after is the "effect". First, then later to improve on this "effect", and further to produce the self runner.
   That is what I've been working on for a long while now.

   There is a reason why you can't light even a small 5 watt bulb.  Your voltage is high, yes, but at the expense of the current. mAs will not light an incandescent bulb. Also your frequency is probably not right, for incandescent bulbs. So, working at those power levels, won't produce the results that you're after.

   I had previously posted a video showing someone's Kacher circuit lighting an incandescent bulb. It had a TL 494 circuit controlling the frequency. Even though Itsu mentioned that the Kacher frequency is not adjustable by anything other than adding or removing secondary wire turns on the Tesla coil. Looks like it can be done, although I did not see the Kacher frequency being tuned on that previously posted video.
  Don't we need the Kacher to have adjustable frequency at the output, also? As just fluffy voltage at the wrong frequency, and low wattage just won't cut it, for proper heterodyning.
  Like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8QAL1KNad4&list=PLOeVeYsJt073WcUhcwRYKWA3usD8jMP9G
   
   

Offline Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12742 on: March 15, 2016, 05:00:09 AM »
Hi TinselKoala.  Duh! You are right of course. I should have figured that out.
Instead, like a dumb ass I was trying to light the incandescent bulb by connecting
only one lead on it.  :D I will give this a try tomorrow and see if I can get the incandescent light
bulb to light.

The interesting about that video where that guy is lighting the incandescent light bulb against
the shovel blade, is that the light bulb seems to be lighting very brightly, but he seems to be only
drawing a very small amount of power from the power supply. Maybe one of the Russian speakers here
can confirm what the voltage and current was on the power supply, and what the wattage rating was
on the light bulb he was using.

You seem to have been driving that tesla coil with a lot of power. I would be worried about getting a shock
at that power level, but I guess as long as you hold on to the metal wire tightly before touching the bulb
to the high voltage output of the tesla coil you will be OK if the frequency is high enough. :)


@Nick, I will experiment with this some more tomorrow. I will let you guys know if I can get the
incandescent light bulbs to light at all at that low input power level to the kacher driver...

Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12743 on: March 15, 2016, 05:40:12 AM »
  Void:
   Maybe, try to connect the other side of your bulb to earth ground, instead.
   Remember, that the idea is not to light bulbs with the Kacher, but to produce the right voltage, current, and frequency to provide for an adequate sync.

Offline skywalker66

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« Reply #12744 on: March 15, 2016, 07:14:21 AM »
Thinking about my experiment described above a little further, it may be that to get
some sort of OU effect out of a tesla coil you need to be driving it with some sort of
very short duration pulses, possibly in a pulse train grouping, rather than trying to run a
tesla coil as a resonant transformer, like a kacher driver (a type of blocking oscillator) does.

@Magpwr, do you have a circuit that creates shorter duration pulses in a pulse train out of a
longer duration pulse, for use in driving a tesla coil? Is that what you mean by your 'Sergey transponder
circuit', which I think you have mentioned here previously?

Hi Void !
What I see in that video, is 2 tesla like coils, one horizontal on table with primary around it, other hanging vertical from first as a secondary extension, plus a lot of messy circuitry on the table near the PS.  Hard to conclude something useful from such damn blury video, much less to replicate.
One thing I'm sure from that video - you need a russian shovel made from whatever exotic mater for effect to take place  :D ;D ;D   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12745 on: March 15, 2016, 08:59:49 AM »
hi everyone
check out this circuit and see the video link
maybe this could be the last thing we can try to get free energy.
the video does not belong to me.
But i have made circuit based on the video ,i would like some one to try this circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K3HrhH5Qrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUF7eJAOjF4

After I eye ball several time at these videos I draw my own schematic. See attachment.
Look very smart design in simplification and efficiency assuming is not a hoax.

Offline skywalker66

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12746 on: March 15, 2016, 09:38:06 AM »
I could say, "Why didn't someone just tell me this to start with?"

To be completely honest, I think each one of us has to play detective and follow the evidence wherever it leads.  Some may get their answer sooner than others.


Where things become blurry to me is considering a single component that offers three pieces of functionality:
  1.  It is an inductor.
  2.  It is capacitor.
  3.  It is a mixing component that has a definite output mechanism.

The third part is where things get tricky.  The mixing must happen via superposition only.  It cannot interfere with parts one and two--these must behave as though their counterpart does not exist.  So one might be inclined to base their design on using part one (inductor) and just providing a secondary making this component a transformer.  The question is, where then are the two capacitor plates?  And do they interfere with the inductor?

If we assume superposition is the principal mechanism allowing this device to operate as intended, can each tank circuit be adequately tuned and synchronized?  Is it necessary for the frequencies of each tank circuit to run at some harmonic or can the base frequency of each be perfectly matched?  The latter method seems to me to be most optimal unless there are physical constraints in doing so.  These constraints may include:
  a.  too small of capacitance for part two
  b.  Q factor too flat for optimal resonance
  c.  phase shift uncontrollable or non-deterministic


Bottom line is to have a procedure in-place that will allow for adjustments until the principal is obtained, goal met; then check validity of this principal as a key basis for operation.  A lot of work to do for sure.  We have examples to work from, but if we understand what it is we are really trying to do, it's possible "the effect" will begin to manifest for many of us; then we will know we are on the right track.

Now you overcomplicate thinks. Let's keep it simply.
Here is what look for me as MO:
1. Grenade is part of transformer - secondary, primary is "inductor"
2. Grenade is part of HV capacitor, other part is HV antenna.
3. Grenade have a path to ground.
4. HV antenna apply unipolar positive HV pulse at the apex of magnetic flux in inductor (or current is the same - on pozitive or negative apex thru trial).
5. When positive pulse is applied two things happen:
    - magnetic flux is compresed further
    - a bunch of electrons are attracted thru electrostatic induction in grenade's circuit .
Remember such a HV pulse for a very short time (ns) is in KW or tens KW power range, so lots of lots
of electrons get captured in magnetic flux inside grenade. 
 

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12747 on: March 15, 2016, 11:31:42 AM »
Look the guy is using an Auto Battery for a start and a big one at that!  If you convert DC to a square wave or a sine wave only the vertical pulse with respect zero is of any use, but it needs to be AC. each time you magnify the pulse in time and speed you end up with a dead zone, that wasted energy needs relocating, like push pull.

If one uses a flywheel in mechanics, it's dead simple with cogs to amplify the speed and then use an efficient generator and prime mover device.

On the other hand if the guy with the 'device' sells you knowledge how he has made his device, THEN THE SECRET is OVER! as once you sell someone a copy your device stuffed, if that's your idea, better to make them at low price and try to maintain the before the Pharisees come round and confiscate the thing and cause you untold misery !

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12748 on: March 15, 2016, 01:14:46 PM »
:o
You really should read this article before you start.

There is a special section 12.10.1 there about sending signals down coaxial cables, but I recommend reading the other sections, too.

Whatever you do, your first order of the day should be modifying the circuit layout and its cabling to stop these spikes from appearing at your gates.

Thanks Verpies. Nice pdf

I made my cables shorter, i added a coax cable for gate signals and things became better. At the end i also connected my dissipative snubbers working in parallel with the lossless clamp. The main kickback power returns back to the pwr sup. and the rest parasitics which remain at the drains, are absorbed by the snubber. First image with the messy layout. Second, when cables went shorter and coax is delivering the gate pulses. Third, with snubbers in place.

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #12749 on: March 15, 2016, 04:29:32 PM »
If your getting so much trouble with your square wave drive from your 494 output, try putting a ferrite toroid round he gate of your  IGBT ! not using IGBT but FET, I think at 15khz I would be using 1200 Volt IGBTs myself HF ones would have much better switching characteristics and losses, but don't let me influence any of you!