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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8328226 times)

Offline Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11025 on: October 23, 2015, 01:29:06 PM »
Synched to the grenade current waveform would make more sense to me- I think??
I full agree on this. And that is the why I believe that a hall sensor inside the tube will do the job.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11026 on: October 23, 2015, 02:52:12 PM »
Starcruiser,  aha,  that explains.

Yes i know that your circled cap/pot shifts the pulse but by a small amount, just enough to position it (somewhere) on top of a sign wave, but not enough to put it 90° further or back.
In a skype conversation with Oleg = ALLEGGA = Foreigner i understood that the C5/R8 is used to shift the Kacher pulse on top of the inductors Current peak, but i could have understood wrongly as
it does not make sense.   
It more compensates for the feedback delay as mentioned by Lost_bro earlier.

Regards Itsu



Itsu, my thought was to invert the signal pulse using the switch as you have re-worked it and adjust the delay to position the kacher firing at the correct place.

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« Reply #11027 on: October 23, 2015, 04:05:35 PM »

Hi Starcruiser,

yes i know, i did that in the video of my last answer to you, i flipped the switch, but it switches from the positive top of the voltage to the negative top of the voltage.
The pot (also your R5) only shifts the pulse a little bit, certainly not between the voltage and current tops (90°).

Itsu

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« Reply #11027 on: October 23, 2015, 04:05:35 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11028 on: October 23, 2015, 04:54:45 PM »
  While trying some thing out, I came across an interesting signal.  When I connect the earth ground to the 0.47uf capacitor and also to the Kacher's emitter,  I get this signal.  The pulses on both the inductor coil and the Kacher seam to be somehow in sync? And extra gain is noticed at the antenna as well, when this is done. The results are a hot stinging streamer, stronger than normal.
 
  My antenna's normal output frequency with everything connected up is running 1.2Mhz. And over 3Mhz with no antenna or ferrite rod connected.
  My grenade induction coil/3turns coil at the 0.47uf capacitor reads 29Khz, with the earth ground line connected to this cap.
  Tuning continues...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11029 on: October 23, 2015, 05:58:33 PM »

The person who tries to explain how to achieve such an impulse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGuw3QvoseI
I have not seen this before
Thank you for the clarification and sharing.

That person appears to be using a sensible closed transformer core for this application.

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« Reply #11029 on: October 23, 2015, 05:58:33 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11030 on: October 23, 2015, 06:05:07 PM »
Ok, so what you are saying is that in this case A) and B) we ALWAYS will have the PLL sync on the VOLTAGE like i see it!
Is that not contradictionary with the fact that a (burdened / unburdened) current xformer can shift 90° (so flipping from voltage to current)?
Yes, it is contradictory.  An AC voltage source can be transfer energy to an LC circuit only when it has a 180° phase component. The PLL always attempts to sync at 0° to the feedback signal.  If the feedback signal is not at 180° then eventually a compromising equilibrium is found, albeit not at the maximum efficiency and the amplitude decreases.

It is important to keep in mind that an AC voltage source cannot transfer energy to an LC circuit at an arbitrary phase and expect to maintain resonance.

Who will win if the AC voltage source attempts to transfer energy to an LC tank at the wrong phase angle is a very interesting question...especially when a PLL controls the AC voltage source.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2015, 09:10:47 PM by verpies »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11031 on: October 23, 2015, 10:08:20 PM »
Hi Tomtech. Thanks a lot for the video. That man is very good in explanation. I will watch all his YouTube series.

I have tried the uni-polar impulse and the scope shot below (just a small safe voltage on my short Tesla coil). All as he said ;)   My rise edge has around 100ns. I think it is still a bit too much??  Just wonder if now when w have right pulses the ferite bar on the Tesla plays some role here -either as filter or some mystical edge sharpener?  :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11032 on: October 23, 2015, 10:54:43 PM »
Hi Tomtech. Thanks a lot for the video. That man is very good in explanation. I will watch all his YouTube series.

I have tried the uni-polar impulse and the scope shot below (just a small safe voltage on my short Tesla coil). All as he said ;)   My rise edge has around 100ns. I think it is still a bit too much??  Just wonder if now when w have right pulses the ferite bar on the Tesla plays some role here -either as filter or some mystical edge sharpener?  :)

Regards,
I am impressed with your achievements, and I think that if you have so beautifully smooth inflection that the ferrite does not have what you've to do:D
-I suspect that you have planned a significant way ,and clever with you guest still some work ahead of us.
for me there are still many obstacles and language barriers
As we say knowledge is power is the key!
all the best to you all.
P.s
I hope that something will move from place to this topic.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11033 on: October 23, 2015, 11:45:25 PM »
Hi Starcruiser,

yes i know, i did that in the video of my last answer to you, i flipped the switch, but it switches from the positive top of the voltage to the negative top of the voltage.
The pot (also your R5) only shifts the pulse a little bit, certainly not between the voltage and current tops (90°).

Itsu

I understand as you mentioned that prior, the post I made prior was to replace the cap (C1 = 3300pf) with another value to see how this impacts the shift. You thought I was referring to the cap feeding the PLL timing.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11034 on: October 24, 2015, 05:32:15 AM »
  Seams like this guy Y pok has obtained the "effect".  And is showing what I had always wanted Akula and Ruslan to show. Only he has only one bulb as the load, and no feed back loop yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faCaYvh69Bs

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11035 on: October 24, 2015, 06:05:32 AM »
  Seams like this guy Y pok has obtained the "effect".  And is showing what I had always wanted Akula and Ruslan to show. Only he has only one bulb as the load, and no feed back loop yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faCaYvh69Bs

Good video Nick!  It definitely shows how the two major components integrate into increased output.

Too bad he doesn't speak English or you Russian because it appears the two of you guys are exactly on the same page.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11036 on: October 24, 2015, 08:33:49 AM »
I is that same guy Tomtech was posting before and his YouTube series Iwant to watch from 01 to 23. All already downloaded.

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« Reply #11037 on: October 24, 2015, 09:19:03 AM »
In the above video, you can see where he puts his probes -  one is on the current sense transformer ,checking current - second one is on the granade coil (+ 20w bulb)  ,cecking voltage.

He switch first only kacher and see the current and voltage are in face (he tunes frequency with ferite rod inside  the tube) , than he switch only 30 KHz PushPul and check the same-they are in face. Last he connected both together.  His next step will be the synchronization.

He also showed that correct/incorrect  seting on your scope made looks the picture different.

BTW-i n his setup he has ground cable only to Kacher and through the capacitor.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11038 on: October 24, 2015, 09:42:33 AM »
@Itsu

You can pull on pin9 of the CD4046 like in this video to inject a phase offset into the PLL and see for yourself how the AC voltage source transfers energy to the LC circuit at various phases.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11039 on: October 24, 2015, 11:37:55 AM »
  Seams like this guy Y pok has obtained the "effect".  And is showing what I had always wanted Akula and Ruslan to show. Only he has only one bulb as the load, and no feed back loop yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faCaYvh69Bs

Nick,  John,

i see nothing special in that video, at least nothing special that we have not seen before.
Both Hoppy and me have shown about 1 year ago to obtain the "effect" which is that the kacher and push/pull oscillator together increase the lightning on a bulb on the grenade.

When looking back to that period (around pages 420 etc.) i also see that even then my (and Hoppy's) current transformer is clearly peaking on the VOLTAGE, not the CURRENT, see f.i. this post:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg422291/#msg422291

There you again see the side by side comparison of my current probe (picking up the real current 90° out of phase with the grenade voltage) and the current transformer (peaking on the Grenade voltage).

So i am pretty sure that we need to fire the kacher ontop of the inductor/grenade VOLTAGE peak, NOT on the current.


Regards Itsu   

 

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